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I prefer my heros to not get caught.allpurpleallgold said:I too remember when you turned a war hero into a military hater when he ran vs a draft dodger.
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Now who is fucking strawman ass? I didn't say any of that. This is what I said on one discrete point of the overall post:SFGbob said:The belief that the military is filled with dumb people who had no other options is a common one especially on the left, it just doesn't happen to be true. That belief bit John Kerry in the ass when he was running for President in 2004.
The apology comes two days after Kerry told college students that if "you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
A lot of straight men with nothing better to do, and no better prospects out of high school, look to the military as a default landing spot.
It is a place for legions and legions of kids coming out of high school with no better options to land.
From the Pew Research Center:
And this on affluence from the Council on Foreign Relations:
A few observations. With 19% coming from income levels up to $38,344, I probably can just rest my case. With another 21% coming from income levels under $50,000, I rest it more. Only 17% come from the $80K or higher category. The middle three quintiles are overrepresented. Call it firmly middle class. Don't call it middle and upper class. And was this a big surprise to anyone? I didn't say they were all starving and dirty poor. I said that it provides a landing pad for a lot of kids who have no better prospects coming out of high school. And it does.
The stories for why the military is the best option for a kid coming out of HS are as varied as the people. I knew and know a lot of them. Most made good lives for themselves; many didn't. Many wanted to get married right out of high school and jumped into an organization that completely supported that. Many weren't ready for college. Many didn't want to go to college and had no other compelling career calling or opportunity. Many wanted to go to college but didn't have the money. And many always wanted to do it. It's all over the place. There's no judgment here. Only hurt feelings, apparently.
College is expensive. Middle income families struggle to pay for their kids to get it. Look at the numbers that define middle income. There the military helps again with funding.
If your bogie here is that enlisted military are more likely to have a high school diploma, I don't think that compromises my position at all. I had always assumed you needed a diploma or at least a GED to enlist, which may not even be true.
The point is that this is ALL funded by taxpayers. All of it. And we haven't even begun to touch the legendary waste that goes with a huge government bureaucracy. I know guys who can tell stories about military budgets that would make DSHS in Olympia seem like it was run by PE investors in comparison.
When you slipped in a post on the Duck board, I thought that was you. But now that you're all upset that I pointed out that your pet government program is also a social program you're bleeding and thereby give yourself away.
#OBKneverleft
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Spot on. Don't mess with our academis expurt of the bored.creepycoug said:
Now who is fucking strawman ass? I didn't say any of that. This is what I said on one discrete point of the overall post:SFGbob said:The belief that the military is filled with dumb people who had no other options is a common one especially on the left, it just doesn't happen to be true. That belief bit John Kerry in the ass when he was running for President in 2004.
The apology comes two days after Kerry told college students that if "you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
A lot of straight men with nothing better to do, and no better prospects out of high school, look to the military as a default landing spot.
It is a place for legions and legions of kids coming out of high school with no better options to land.
From the Pew Research Center:
And this on affluence from the Council on Foreign Relations:
A few observations. With 19% coming from income levels up to $38,344, I probably can just rest my case. With another 21% coming from income levels under $50,000, I rest it more. Only 17% come from the $80K or higher category. The middle three quintiles are overrepresented. Call it firmly middle class. Don't call it middle and upper class. And was this a big surprise to anyone? I didn't say they were all starving and dirty poor. I said that it provides a landing pad for a lot of kids who have no better prospects coming out of high school. And it does.
The stories for why the military is the best option for a kid coming out of HS are as varied as the people. I knew and know a lot of them. Most made good lives for themselves; many didn't. Many wanted to get married right out of high school and jumped into an organization that completely supported that. Many weren't ready for college. Many didn't want to go to college and had no other compelling career calling or opportunity. Many wanted to go to college but didn't have the money. And many always wanted to do it. It's all over the place. There's no judgment here. Only hurt feelings, apparently.
College is expensive. Middle income families struggle to pay for their kids to get it. Look at the numbers that define middle income. There the military helps again with funding.
If your bogie here is that enlisted military are more likely to have a high school diploma, I don't think that compromises my position at all. I had always assumed you needed a diploma or at least a GED to enlist, which may not even be true.
The point is that this is ALL funded by taxpayers. All of it. And we haven't even begun to touch the legendary waste that goes with a huge government bureaucracy. I know guys who can tell stories about military budgets that would make DSHS in Olympia seem like it was run by PE investors in comparison.
When you slipped in a post on the Duck board, I thought that was you. But now that you're all upset that I pointed out that your pet government program is also a social program you're bleeding and thereby give yourself away.
#OBKneverleft -
No better options that was your claim and I do not give a fuck about your unsupported opinions and personal anecdotes.
Now why do they have no better options in your mind?
And spare me the 3,000 word response -
They have “no better options” because like John Kerry you believe they were too stupid to do much of anything else.
And you also believe that we intentionally fund the military to give these dumb kids with no better options something to do.
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Now you're not even fucking the strawman. Now you're just making shit up like a delusional monkey.SFGbob said:They have “no better options” because like John Kerry you believe they were too stupid to do much of anything else.
And you also believe that we intentionally fund the military to give these dumb kids with no better options something to do.
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Tldrcreepycoug said:
Now who is fucking strawman ass? I didn't say any of that. This is what I said on one discrete point of the overall post:SFGbob said:The belief that the military is filled with dumb people who had no other options is a common one especially on the left, it just doesn't happen to be true. That belief bit John Kerry in the ass when he was running for President in 2004.
The apology comes two days after Kerry told college students that if "you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
A lot of straight men with nothing better to do, and no better prospects out of high school, look to the military as a default landing spot.
It is a place for legions and legions of kids coming out of high school with no better options to land.
From the Pew Research Center:
And this on affluence from the Council on Foreign Relations:
A few observations. With 19% coming from income levels up to $38,344, I probably can just rest my case. With another 21% coming from income levels under $50,000, I rest it more. Only 17% come from the $80K or higher category. The middle three quintiles are overrepresented. Call it firmly middle class. Don't call it middle and upper class. And was this a big surprise to anyone? I didn't say they were all starving and dirty poor. I said that it provides a landing pad for a lot of kids who have no better prospects coming out of high school. And it does.
The stories for why the military is the best option for a kid coming out of HS are as varied as the people. I knew and know a lot of them. Most made good lives for themselves; many didn't. Many wanted to get married right out of high school and jumped into an organization that completely supported that. Many weren't ready for college. Many didn't want to go to college and had no other compelling career calling or opportunity. Many wanted to go to college but didn't have the money. And many always wanted to do it. It's all over the place. There's no judgment here. Only hurt feelings, apparently.
College is expensive. Middle income families struggle to pay for their kids to get it. Look at the numbers that define middle income. There the military helps again with funding.
If your bogie here is that enlisted military are more likely to have a high school diploma, I don't think that compromises my position at all. I had always assumed you needed a diploma or at least a GED to enlist, which may not even be true.
The point is that this is ALL funded by taxpayers. All of it. And we haven't even begun to touch the legendary waste that goes with a huge government bureaucracy. I know guys who can tell stories about military budgets that would make DSHS in Olympia seem like it was run by PE investors in comparison.
When you slipped in a post on the Duck board, I thought that was you. But now that you're all upset that I pointed out that your pet government program is also a social program you're bleeding and thereby give yourself away.
#OBKneverleft -
Well thank you for at least dropping the lies and accurately restating my post. That's a start.SFGbob said:No better options that was your claim and I do not give a fuck about your unsupported opinions and personal anecdotes.
Now why do they have no better options in your mind?
And spare me the 3,000 word response
I know that they have no better options in the same way you know what I believe or what I meant when I wrote this or that. It's the same way you know what all Rats really think and what left wing people are really up to. That way.
We're special, you and me. We can divine these things. It's a gift.
And fuck off with telling me how to post unless you want to meet me at 7-11 and force the issue. Otherwise, when your attention span has run its course, just stop reading and quit whining.
Your 'man of logic' routine has really taken a hit on this subject. When someone hurts your feelings you are as transparent as a middle school girl who didn't get invited to the sleepover.
Go back to picking on Hondo. -
Most of it was pictures. Thought that would help.RaceBannon said:
Tldrcreepycoug said:
Now who is fucking strawman ass? I didn't say any of that. This is what I said on one discrete point of the overall post:SFGbob said:The belief that the military is filled with dumb people who had no other options is a common one especially on the left, it just doesn't happen to be true. That belief bit John Kerry in the ass when he was running for President in 2004.
The apology comes two days after Kerry told college students that if "you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
A lot of straight men with nothing better to do, and no better prospects out of high school, look to the military as a default landing spot.
It is a place for legions and legions of kids coming out of high school with no better options to land.
From the Pew Research Center:
And this on affluence from the Council on Foreign Relations:
A few observations. With 19% coming from income levels up to $38,344, I probably can just rest my case. With another 21% coming from income levels under $50,000, I rest it more. Only 17% come from the $80K or higher category. The middle three quintiles are overrepresented. Call it firmly middle class. Don't call it middle and upper class. And was this a big surprise to anyone? I didn't say they were all starving and dirty poor. I said that it provides a landing pad for a lot of kids who have no better prospects coming out of high school. And it does.
The stories for why the military is the best option for a kid coming out of HS are as varied as the people. I knew and know a lot of them. Most made good lives for themselves; many didn't. Many wanted to get married right out of high school and jumped into an organization that completely supported that. Many weren't ready for college. Many didn't want to go to college and had no other compelling career calling or opportunity. Many wanted to go to college but didn't have the money. And many always wanted to do it. It's all over the place. There's no judgment here. Only hurt feelings, apparently.
College is expensive. Middle income families struggle to pay for their kids to get it. Look at the numbers that define middle income. There the military helps again with funding.
If your bogie here is that enlisted military are more likely to have a high school diploma, I don't think that compromises my position at all. I had always assumed you needed a diploma or at least a GED to enlist, which may not even be true.
The point is that this is ALL funded by taxpayers. All of it. And we haven't even begun to touch the legendary waste that goes with a huge government bureaucracy. I know guys who can tell stories about military budgets that would make DSHS in Olympia seem like it was run by PE investors in comparison.
When you slipped in a post on the Duck board, I thought that was you. But now that you're all upset that I pointed out that your pet government program is also a social program you're bleeding and thereby give yourself away.
#OBKneverleft -
How did you hurt my feeling? You talked out your ass and were called on it. Doesn't hurt my feelings.creepycoug said:
Well thank you for at least dropping the lies and accurately restating my post. That's a start.SFGbob said:No better options that was your claim and I do not give a fuck about your unsupported opinions and personal anecdotes.
Now why do they have no better options in your mind?
And spare me the 3,000 word response
I know that they have no better options in the same way you know what I believe or what I meant when I wrote this or that. It's the same way you know what all Rats really think and what left wing people are really up to. That way.
We're special, you and me. We can divine these things. It's a gift.
And fuck off with telling me how to post unless you want to meet me at 7-11 and force the issue. Otherwise, when your attention span has run its course, just stop reading and quit whining.
Your 'man of logic' routine has really taken a hit on this subject. When someone hurts your feelings you are as transparent as a middle school girl who didn't get invited to the sleepover.
Go back to picking on Hondo.
