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#MyMs have the best record in the league!

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  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited April 2019

    Are they good?

    They have a bunch of guys who aren't playing the back of their baseball card right now. Even if 1 or 2 sustain it no way the entire team does. You could probably find a better pitching rotation on some college teams and the defense overall has been shit. TSIO eventually.
    Obviously they're not going to be the 1929 Yankees but there's some real potential here. Going through the lineup (they basically rotate ten regulars):

    Mallex - not outperforming his talent.
    Haniger - not outperforming his talent.
    Santana - Hit 30 homers in 2017, I'd bet on him hitting 30 this year.
    Encarnacion - Has been a monster before. Big thing is he has to stay healthy.
    Vogelbach - Been killing it in AAA for years. About time they got him consistent big league at bats.
    Beckham - Much like Santana was great in 17 and bad last year. Was injured most of last season. Former first pick overall. If he can stay healthy I think he's really good.
    Healy - Overperforming a bit, he'll come back to earth and lose his job when Seager comes back.
    Narvaez - Underperforming, should hit better going forward. Pretty bad defensively though.
    Gordon - Not overperforming.
    Bruce - Not going to sustain but could hit 25-30 homers.

    For the M's to be good Vogelbach has to be for real, and Santana and Beckham have to have bounceback seasons. And for everyone of those things doesn't happen Encarnacion or Bruce or Healy have to outplay expectations. And there's always the chance they flip one of last three for another part (pitcher) and still have a spare part when Seager returns.

    I am confident in Vogelbach and pretty confident in Santana and Beckham.

    Unfortunately we? are in the same division as the Asstros so it's wild card or bust. But they'll be chinteresting all year long, which is better than I expected.
    I now have three Mariners on my fantasy baseball team (Vogelbach, Mallex, and Swarzak. I usually don't have any, so I guess this might have some legs.
    Vogelbach is the only one of those three I'd count on for a big year. He's a stud.
    Mallex I have for steals. And with the guys behind him hitting like they are, I should get a lot of runs scored too. Swarzak is the closer, which is why I have him.
    I don't think they really have a closer, but I do feel better about Swarzak than anybody in the pen.

    I wasn't thinking about Mallex's value in steals, and you're definitely right about scoring runs. I wonder how long they'll keep him at the top of the lineup, though if he gets moved it's probably to 9th with Gordon moving to one, so the runs potential wouldn't be impacted greatly other than losing 1 PA per game.
    That is a huge deal...losing 1PA per game is the equivalent to 161PA for a season. Mallex is generally close to a .350 OBP for his career, which means 56 on base appearances. This would give him 15-20 less runs per a season, and 5-10 fewer steals as well. Not good at all.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Are they good?

    They have a bunch of guys who aren't playing the back of their baseball card right now. Even if 1 or 2 sustain it no way the entire team does. You could probably find a better pitching rotation on some college teams and the defense overall has been shit. TSIO eventually.
    Obviously they're not going to be the 1929 Yankees but there's some real potential here. Going through the lineup (they basically rotate ten regulars):

    Mallex - not outperforming his talent.
    Haniger - not outperforming his talent.
    Santana - Hit 30 homers in 2017, I'd bet on him hitting 30 this year.
    Encarnacion - Has been a monster before. Big thing is he has to stay healthy.
    Vogelbach - Been killing it in AAA for years. About time they got him consistent big league at bats.
    Beckham - Much like Santana was great in 17 and bad last year. Was injured most of last season. Former first pick overall. If he can stay healthy I think he's really good.
    Healy - Overperforming a bit, he'll come back to earth and lose his job when Seager comes back.
    Narvaez - Underperforming, should hit better going forward. Pretty bad defensively though.
    Gordon - Not overperforming.
    Bruce - Not going to sustain but could hit 25-30 homers.

    For the M's to be good Vogelbach has to be for real, and Santana and Beckham have to have bounceback seasons. And for everyone of those things doesn't happen Encarnacion or Bruce or Healy have to outplay expectations. And there's always the chance they flip one of last three for another part (pitcher) and still have a spare part when Seager returns.

    I am confident in Vogelbach and pretty confident in Santana and Beckham.

    Unfortunately we? are in the same division as the Asstros so it's wild card or bust. But they'll be chinteresting all year long, which is better than I expected.
    I now have three Mariners on my fantasy baseball team (Vogelbach, Mallex, and Swarzak. I usually don't have any, so I guess this might have some legs.
    Vogelbach is the only one of those three I'd count on for a big year. He's a stud.
    Mallex I have for steals. And with the guys behind him hitting like they are, I should get a lot of runs scored too. Swarzak is the closer, which is why I have him.
    I don't think they really have a closer, but I do feel better about Swarzak than anybody in the pen.

    I wasn't thinking about Mallex's value in steals, and you're definitely right about scoring runs. I wonder how long they'll keep him at the top of the lineup, though if he gets moved it's probably to 9th with Gordon moving to one, so the runs potential wouldn't be impacted greatly other than losing 1 PA per game.
    That is a huge deal...losing 1PA per game is the equivalent to 161PA for a season. Mallex is generally close to a .350 OBP for his career, which means 56 on base appearances. This would give him 15-20 less runs per a season, and 5-10 fewer steals as well. Not good at all.
    Butt still.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    The starting pitching must improve if this start is going to maintain.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    The starting pitching must improve if this start is going to maintain.

    I mean there's no way they're winning 13 out of every 15 games.

    They can absolutely stay in playoff contention with the starting pitching they're getting right now if the defense can improve from historically awful to merely bottom of the league. I think it's safe to assume the gloves will improve some just like the bats will cool off some. There's no way they're this horrific all year.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    The starting pitching must improve if this start is going to maintain.

    I mean there's no way they're winning 13 out of every 15 games.

    They can absolutely stay in playoff contention with the starting pitching they're getting right now if the defense can improve from historically awful to merely bottom of the league. I think it's safe to assume the gloves will improve some just like the bats will cool off some. There's no way they're this horrific all year.
    Interesting stat: Vogelbach leads the majors in hard hit rate at 73%. 5% ahead of Judge.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    edited April 2019
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    We? suck again
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    Where is all the chatter?
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    We get it Wilbur. We don't want to hear it.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,053 Founders Club

    LOL

    It didn't even take until fall.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,173 Standard Supporter
    I have to admit, there was a good two week window there was I was actually worried that I would NOT be able to go on stubhub and get club level tickets for $15 a pop on a late-August evening. Glad that the market has shifted back to reality.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    This thread has aged about as well as $2 chuck
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club

    Where is all the chatter?

    Hey batter batter batter

    Hey batter
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    Doogles said:
    The real Mariners game to play today
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,309 Founders Club

    This thread has aged about as well as $2 chuck left out all day on the kitchen counter

    fixed that for you
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    My Padres doing damage to the M cause
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club

    Not falling for this shit again

    I was right
    We're still in the hunt! Everyone knew the Astros we're winning the division, but the 2nd wild card is ours for the taking!
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    Doogles said:

    Not falling for this shit again

    I was right
    We're still in the hunt! Everyone knew the Astros we're winning the division, but the 2nd wild card is ours for the taking!
    Yep and when the M’s finish two out of said second wild card, “there’s always next year”
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    They should cut Felix. Nobody is benefitting from keeping him around. He’s done.