Bernie Sanders a millionaire

RaceBannon said:

SFGbob said:

BearsWiin said:

RaceBannon said:

BearsWiin said:

RaceBannon said:

With the tax-filing deadline just days away, California residents are worried that a slew of proposed levies on everything from soft drinks to water to tires and car batteries could soon see even more money going out of their pockets in the state that already has the nation's highest income tax.

As Californians grapple with that 13.3 percent income tax – and some leaner-than-usual refunds this year due to the recent federal tax overhaul – lawmakers in Sacramento are looking at a range of other revenue sources. Members of the legislature's Democratic supermajority argue that these new taxes are vital to shore up the state coffers and to provide crucial services such as repairing crumbling infrastructure, cleaning up toxic wells and fighting obesity.


Overall, the California Tax Foundation has added up more than $6.2 billion worth of tax increase proposals pending in the state legislature, with that number expected to rise as bills are amended.

“We have the highest gas tax in the nation and the majority party has gone as far as taxing our air,” California State Senate Republican Leader Shannon Grove said in a statement to Fox News. “Now, they are proposing to tax our water, soda, tires, and more. Higher taxes won’t solve California’s affordability and housing problems, and they will only make things worse.”

A spokesperson for the California Democratic Party declined to comment to Fox News, instead directing questions to lawmakers who proposed the pieces of legislation.

One of the most controversial proposals to come out of Sacramento this year is a proposal from Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom to tax drinking water in order to clean up contaminated water in the state’s low-income and rural areas.

Source is FAUX News

Their numbers are wrong, surprise surprise

https://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/2018/18_540tt.pdf

Yeah didn't read but I trust you. Kind of

It's a fucking tax table, not an article. Scroll down to the end and you'll see that $100,000 taxable income is taxed at 6.5% if you're single or married filing separately, and 4% if you're married filing jointly.

Facts don't care about your feelings

The article doesn't say at what income level people are paying that 13.3% and your tax table conveniently stops at $100K in income.

Its 12.3 according to the state website

Had I been asking about 100K in income @BearsWiin had it fucking nailed

$100k in taxable income. AGI will be much higher if taxable income is $100k.

I'm guessing that upwards of 90% of the CA population reports less then $100k taxable income. So upwards of 90% aren't paying anywhere near the 13.3% that your article referenced. And your own link shows that taxable income has to be $572k for single or married filing separately, or $1.146M for married filing jointly, in order to kick in the 12.3% rate. That might be several thousand households, out of a population of nearly 40 million.

Californians are not "grappling" with a 13.3% tax rate. Very few are even "grappling" with a 12.3% tax rate.

That 1% is paying 40% is criminal. Yet purple here want more of what they make. Envy is a cruel master.

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

BearsWiin said:

RaceBannon said:

Maximum rate is 12.3%

Would it have fucking killed you to just say that? They missed it by a point

Any issues with the rest of the article?https://ftb.ca.gov/forms/2018-california-tax-rates-and-exemptions.shtml

Very few Californians come close to paying the top rate.

It's an easy lie to challenge, too; hell I did it here a few months ago when some nitwit linked a "why business is fleeing the Golden State" hit piece and they quoted the same fucking rate, but said it starts at some absurdly low taxable income amount. It's not hard to google the fucking tax tables and find that they're lying out their asses when they say shit like that

Faux watchers will still gobble it up tho, a gullible lot

Just like when Bob whines that the wealthy pay enough because the top 1% pay 40% is income taxes. But don't take into account the other federal taxes. Or the amount of income they make.

Or when Hondo lies and claims there are no difference between payroll and income taxes.

El oh fucking El you are an idiot. Seriously Bob. You have no idea how to read for comprehension.

Another white flag.

RaceBannon said:

BearsWiin said:

RaceBannon said:

SFGbob said:

BearsWiin said:

RaceBannon said:

BearsWiin said:

RaceBannon said:

With the tax-filing deadline just days away, California residents are worried that a slew of proposed levies on everything from soft drinks to water to tires and car batteries could soon see even more money going out of their pockets in the state that already has the nation's highest income tax.

As Californians grapple with that 13.3 percent income tax – and some leaner-than-usual refunds this year due to the recent federal tax overhaul – lawmakers in Sacramento are looking at a range of other revenue sources. Members of the legislature's Democratic supermajority argue that these new taxes are vital to shore up the state coffers and to provide crucial services such as repairing crumbling infrastructure, cleaning up toxic wells and fighting obesity.


Overall, the California Tax Foundation has added up more than $6.2 billion worth of tax increase proposals pending in the state legislature, with that number expected to rise as bills are amended.

“We have the highest gas tax in the nation and the majority party has gone as far as taxing our air,” California State Senate Republican Leader Shannon Grove said in a statement to Fox News. “Now, they are proposing to tax our water, soda, tires, and more. Higher taxes won’t solve California’s affordability and housing problems, and they will only make things worse.”

A spokesperson for the California Democratic Party declined to comment to Fox News, instead directing questions to lawmakers who proposed the pieces of legislation.

One of the most controversial proposals to come out of Sacramento this year is a proposal from Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom to tax drinking water in order to clean up contaminated water in the state’s low-income and rural areas.

Source is FAUX News

Their numbers are wrong, surprise surprise

https://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/2018/18_540tt.pdf

Yeah didn't read but I trust you. Kind of

It's a fucking tax table, not an article. Scroll down to the end and you'll see that $100,000 taxable income is taxed at 6.5% if you're single or married filing separately, and 4% if you're married filing jointly.

Facts don't care about your feelings

The article doesn't say at what income level people are paying that 13.3% and your tax table conveniently stops at $100K in income.

Its 12.3 according to the state website

Had I been asking about 100K in income @BearsWiin had it fucking nailed

$100k in taxable income. AGI will be much higher if taxable income is $100k.

I'm guessing that upwards of 90% of the CA population reports less then $100k taxable income. So upwards of 90% aren't paying anywhere near the 13.3% that your article referenced. And your own link shows that taxable income has to be $572k for single or married filing separately, or $1.146M for married filing jointly, in order to kick in the 12.3% rate. That might be several thousand households, out of a population of nearly 40 million.

Californians are not "grappling" with a 13.3% tax rate. Very few are even "grappling" with a 12.3% tax rate.

Here's some more weeds to play in. We have established the inaccuracy of the 13.3%.The top rate is 12.3%. If the article had been about how many people paid it you'd have it nailed. It wasn't. Nor is the top rate 6% as you tried to lie and say.

Overall, the California Tax Foundation has added up more than $6.2 billion worth of tax increase proposals pending in the state legislature, with that number expected to rise as bills are amended.

“We have the highest gas tax in the nation and the majority party has gone as far as taxing our air,” California State Senate Republican Leader Shannon Grove said in a statement to Fox News. “Now, they are proposing to tax our water, soda, tires, and more. Higher taxes won’t solve California’s affordability and housing problems, and they will only make things worse.”

A spokesperson for the California Democratic Party declined to comment to Fox News, instead directing questions to lawmakers who proposed the pieces of legislation.

While you continue to dodge here are those weeds for you

I didn't try to lie about anything. The rate for $100k is what it is. The vast majority of Californians pay less than that. Some pay more. The article said "Californians are grappling with a 13.3% tax rate." The vast majority of Californians aren't grappling with anything near that tax rate, but being factual and precise undercuts the CALIFORNIANS ARE DROWNING IN TAXES bullshit narrative that Faux wants to push to its adoring and gullible audience.

As for the rest, Rep legislator bleats waah waah waah. Wouldn't expect anything else from her

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

That 1% is paying 40% is criminal. Yet purple here want more of what they make. Envy is a cruel master.

See? Another Rush Limbaugh idiot. The top 1% pay federal taxes pretty close to the amount of income they earn.

Another Hondo lie.

RaceBannon said:

What the rate for 100K is, is irrelevant

HTH

As a former poor person with no income for 6 months it is in fact all those other taxes that hit hard, gas being the hardest of all. Adding 6.2 billion more matters.

I live here and I love it. Doesn't mean Sacramento isn't full of shit

It is relevant; it establishes a marker for a 4% or 6.5% tax burden, and that the vast majority of Californians are below that. So the vast majority of Californians are not paying anywhere near what the article that you quoted maintains that they are.

In all honesty, you still sound poor

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

The top 1% actually pays a greater percent of the income taxes than the income they earn.

But then would you expect a pathological liar to every tell the truth?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-14/top-3-of-u-s-taxpayers-paid-majority-of-income-taxes-in-2016

Again. That is just income tax you fucking idiot. When you count all federal taxes.... It evens out.

You are worse than arguing with my wife.

Again you're a pathological lying piece of shit who just moves the goal posts when your line of bullshit blows up in your face.

I've always been talking about income taxes Hondo, and your earlier response where you lied your ass off yet again you said:

The top 1% pay federal taxes pretty close to the amount of income they earn.

So again, you're a fucking liar Hondo.

The top 1% to top 50% pay a greater share of the of total income tax than they earn income. You lied Kunt.

BearsWiin said:

RaceBannon said:

SFGbob said:

BearsWiin said:

RaceBannon said:

BearsWiin said:

RaceBannon said:

With the tax-filing deadline just days away, California residents are worried that a slew of proposed levies on everything from soft drinks to water to tires and car batteries could soon see even more money going out of their pockets in the state that already has the nation's highest income tax.

As Californians grapple with that 13.3 percent income tax – and some leaner-than-usual refunds this year due to the recent federal tax overhaul – lawmakers in Sacramento are looking at a range of other revenue sources. Members of the legislature's Democratic supermajority argue that these new taxes are vital to shore up the state coffers and to provide crucial services such as repairing crumbling infrastructure, cleaning up toxic wells and fighting obesity.


Overall, the California Tax Foundation has added up more than $6.2 billion worth of tax increase proposals pending in the state legislature, with that number expected to rise as bills are amended.

“We have the highest gas tax in the nation and the majority party has gone as far as taxing our air,” California State Senate Republican Leader Shannon Grove said in a statement to Fox News. “Now, they are proposing to tax our water, soda, tires, and more. Higher taxes won’t solve California’s affordability and housing problems, and they will only make things worse.”

A spokesperson for the California Democratic Party declined to comment to Fox News, instead directing questions to lawmakers who proposed the pieces of legislation.

One of the most controversial proposals to come out of Sacramento this year is a proposal from Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom to tax drinking water in order to clean up contaminated water in the state’s low-income and rural areas.

Source is FAUX News

Their numbers are wrong, surprise surprise

https://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/2018/18_540tt.pdf

Yeah didn't read but I trust you. Kind of

It's a fucking tax table, not an article. Scroll down to the end and you'll see that $100,000 taxable income is taxed at 6.5% if you're single or married filing separately, and 4% if you're married filing jointly.

Facts don't care about your feelings

The article doesn't say at what income level people are paying that 13.3% and your tax table conveniently stops at $100K in income.

Its 12.3 according to the state website

Had I been asking about 100K in income @BearsWiin had it fucking nailed

$100k in taxable income. AGI will be much higher if taxable income is $100k.

I'm guessing that upwards of 90% of the CA population reports less then $100k taxable income. So upwards of 90% aren't paying anywhere near the 13.3% that your article referenced. And your own link shows that taxable income has to be $572k for single or married filing separately, or $1.146M for married filing jointly, in order to kick in the 12.3% rate. That might be several thousand households, out of a population of nearly 40 million.

Californians are not "grappling" with a 13.3% tax rate. Very few are even "grappling" with a 12.3% tax rate.

Dig deeper into your numbers. It's more like tens, if not hundreds of thousands pay the 12.3% rate. Moreover, CA assesses a 1% surcharge on top of that rate for earners making more than $1 million. The mean for the top 2,000,000 earners in CA is something like $450,000. In SF it's more like $650,000. That's the average. The numbers can be found here.

https://statisticalatlas.com/state/California/Household-Income