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JT Tuimoloau, 5* 2021 DL, Bellevue (Eastside Catholic), WA (Offered 9/22/17)

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  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,942
    He’s also fucking 15
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited April 2019
    Tequilla said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    bigcc said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    I stand with SAC #cobralivesmatter. It think it will be very hard to top the level vita reached his last year. He absolutely dominated the cal game. They had no answer for him.

    Of course it will. The odds are against anyone outplaying what Vita did his last season. That doesn't mean JT's upside isn't higher than Vea's though, and JT's floor is massively higher than Vea's was.
    You are fucking insane! People need to understand and appreciate that we had arguably the most talented defensive tackle of all fucking time playing for us the last couple years in Vita Vea. Nobody has been that fast and that explosive at that size before. We're talking a 350 pound man that can get off the ball as fast as a 300 pound man. A man who can rag doll 300+ pound offensive lineman with one arm. A man who is completely unblockable one-on-one versus even the best offensive lineman in the league. Vea still isn't even close to reaching his potential and will continue to get better. Seriously, shut the fuck up! JT is not more talented than Vea and does not have a higher floor or ceiling than him. You and anybody else who says that doesn't know shit about football talent. JT could be a shorter version of Deforrest Buckner and that's great. He could even be the next Haloti Ngata. But he's not on Vita's level. You can fairly compare them at the same age and Vea is easily better. I put it right in front of your fucking eyes. JT is not as fast as Vita at the same size. I don't give a fuck what he's rated versus what Vita was rated out of high school. He's not more talented than Vea. Just stop.
    Next level dooging. Vea had a monster senior year, but to call him the best defensive tackle of all time, ESPECIALLY for several seasons and not just his senior year, is fucking insane dude.
    I didn't call him the best defensive tackle of all time you idiot. I said he's arguably the most talented defensive tackle of all-time. Who's more talented than him? Don't worry I'll wait.
    Let’s start with the first NFL player to win a MVP ... Alan Page

    If you just want to go Athletic, I’ll definitely say that Warren Sapp and Aaron Donald are more athletic and talented.

    Vita’s great ... but let’s wait until he accomplishes something at the NFL level that puts him in the same discussion as those that are all-times and either are, or will be, Hall of Famers
    No, no, and no. There's a difference between production and physical talent. Aaron Donald is an undersized try hard who wins with quickness, leverage, and technique but also can be controlled in the run game at times. Sapp was great but Vita is much bigger, stronger, and can move just as well if not better than Sapp could. Alan Page? Seriously? Most guys from that era wouldn't even make an NFL roster today.

    It's pretty fucking sad and disgraceful, UW fans don't appreciate or recognize the special athlete we got to witness in purple and gold when Vita was here. He's basically the Bo Jackson of defensive tackles. A unicorn of an athlete. Barring any serious injuries, he's going to be in the Hall of Fame one day.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,231
    StrongArmCobra said:

    Tequilla said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    bigcc said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    I stand with SAC #cobralivesmatter. It think it will be very hard to top the level vita reached his last year. He absolutely dominated the cal game. They had no answer for him.

    Of course it will. The odds are against anyone outplaying what Vita did his last season. That doesn't mean JT's upside isn't higher than Vea's though, and JT's floor is massively higher than Vea's was.
    You are fucking insane! People need to understand and appreciate that we had arguably the most talented defensive tackle of all fucking time playing for us the last couple years in Vita Vea. Nobody has been that fast and that explosive at that size before. We're talking a 350 pound man that can get off the ball as fast as a 300 pound man. A man who can rag doll 300+ pound offensive lineman with one arm. A man who is completely unblockable one-on-one versus even the best offensive lineman in the league. Vea still isn't even close to reaching his potential and will continue to get better. Seriously, shut the fuck up! JT is not more talented than Vea and does not have a higher floor or ceiling than him. You and anybody else who says that doesn't know shit about football talent. JT could be a shorter version of Deforrest Buckner and that's great. He could even be the next Haloti Ngata. But he's not on Vita's level. You can fairly compare them at the same age and Vea is easily better. I put it right in front of your fucking eyes. JT is not as fast as Vita at the same size. I don't give a fuck what he's rated versus what Vita was rated out of high school. He's not more talented than Vea. Just stop.
    Next level dooging. Vea had a monster senior year, but to call him the best defensive tackle of all time, ESPECIALLY for several seasons and not just his senior year, is fucking insane dude.
    I didn't call him the best defensive tackle of all time you idiot. I said he's arguably the most talented defensive tackle of all-time. Who's more talented than him? Don't worry I'll wait.
    Let’s start with the first NFL player to win a MVP ... Alan Page

    If you just want to go Athletic, I’ll definitely say that Warren Sapp and Aaron Donald are more athletic and talented.

    Vita’s great ... but let’s wait until he accomplishes something at the NFL level that puts him in the same discussion as those that are all-times and either are, or will be, Hall of Famers
    No, no, and no.
    Get the fuck out of here with that doogish take
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    Tequilla said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    Tequilla said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    bigcc said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    I stand with SAC #cobralivesmatter. It think it will be very hard to top the level vita reached his last year. He absolutely dominated the cal game. They had no answer for him.

    Of course it will. The odds are against anyone outplaying what Vita did his last season. That doesn't mean JT's upside isn't higher than Vea's though, and JT's floor is massively higher than Vea's was.
    You are fucking insane! People need to understand and appreciate that we had arguably the most talented defensive tackle of all fucking time playing for us the last couple years in Vita Vea. Nobody has been that fast and that explosive at that size before. We're talking a 350 pound man that can get off the ball as fast as a 300 pound man. A man who can rag doll 300+ pound offensive lineman with one arm. A man who is completely unblockable one-on-one versus even the best offensive lineman in the league. Vea still isn't even close to reaching his potential and will continue to get better. Seriously, shut the fuck up! JT is not more talented than Vea and does not have a higher floor or ceiling than him. You and anybody else who says that doesn't know shit about football talent. JT could be a shorter version of Deforrest Buckner and that's great. He could even be the next Haloti Ngata. But he's not on Vita's level. You can fairly compare them at the same age and Vea is easily better. I put it right in front of your fucking eyes. JT is not as fast as Vita at the same size. I don't give a fuck what he's rated versus what Vita was rated out of high school. He's not more talented than Vea. Just stop.
    Next level dooging. Vea had a monster senior year, but to call him the best defensive tackle of all time, ESPECIALLY for several seasons and not just his senior year, is fucking insane dude.
    I didn't call him the best defensive tackle of all time you idiot. I said he's arguably the most talented defensive tackle of all-time. Who's more talented than him? Don't worry I'll wait.
    Let’s start with the first NFL player to win a MVP ... Alan Page

    If you just want to go Athletic, I’ll definitely say that Warren Sapp and Aaron Donald are more athletic and talented.

    Vita’s great ... but let’s wait until he accomplishes something at the NFL level that puts him in the same discussion as those that are all-times and either are, or will be, Hall of Famers
    No, no, and no.
    Get the fuck out of here with that doogish take
    Sorry but you're wrong and disrespectful to Vita. Put some respect on his name.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,231
    Good to know that apparently quickness and operating with superior leverage and technique is indicative of a try hard

    Look, Vita was great for UW. Both he and Greg helped re-establishes what it means to be a great UW DT. Yes, Vita was a 1st round pick. Yes, Vita has all the potential in the world to be great at the NFL level. But let’s wait for him to have a level of production that matches your crowning of him being the greatest ever ... because whether you want to talk shit about the 3 names that I mentioned, the reality is those 3 (and I can bring more examples) are all guys with exceptional physical attributes for their position in the periods in which they play(ed) and have a resume of production that is consistent to being crowned.

    It’s great to be supportive of UW players ... all behind that. But don’t be a Coug or a Quook and make comments that at least at the time you make them flat out ridiculous.
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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    I stand with SAC #cobralivesmatter. It think it will be very hard to top the level vita reached his last year. He absolutely dominated the cal game. They had no answer for him.

    Of course it will. The odds are against anyone outplaying what Vita did his last season. That doesn't mean JT's upside isn't higher than Vea's though, and JT's floor is massively higher than Vea's was.
    Who do you think is more raw athletic specimen? I would give vita the slide edge
    I'll go with the kid that has offers from every team in the country.
    That doesn't fucking matter you idiot! Vea was academically ineligible out of high school which kept his recruiting under the radar. He also didn't do any camps or 7 on 7 shit to market himself. But he could have had any offer he wanted and gone anywhere in the country. We also don't know what his real offer sheet was. He wasn't even on social media in high school so a lot of his offers could have gone unreported because he was so low key and didn't publicly announce them. Had he gone JUCO and became eligible that way he would have certainly had an offer from everybody as well.
    I'm old enough to remember the Mosiah Liu recruitment:
    BallzDeep said:



    Grades have no bearing on how a recruit is rated.

    Good chit.
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