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JT Tuimoloau, 5* 2021 DL, Bellevue (Eastside Catholic), WA (Offered 9/22/17)
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Of course it will. The odds are against anyone outplaying what Vita did his last season. That doesn't mean JT's upside isn't higher than Vea's though, and JT's floor is massively higher than Vea's was.WeakarmCobra said:I stand with SAC #cobralivesmatter. It think it will be very hard to top the level vita reached his last year. He absolutely dominated the cal game. They had no answer for him.
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Who do you think is more raw athletic specimen? I would give vita the slide edgeHillsboroDuck said:
Of course it will. The odds are against anyone outplaying what Vita did his last season. That doesn't mean JT's upside isn't higher than Vea's though, and JT's floor is massively higher than Vea's was.WeakarmCobra said:I stand with SAC #cobralivesmatter. It think it will be very hard to top the level vita reached his last year. He absolutely dominated the cal game. They had no answer for him.
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WeakarmCobra said:
Who do you think is more raw athletic specimen? I would give vita the slide edgeHillsboroDuck said:
Of course it will. The odds are against anyone outplaying what Vita did his last season. That doesn't mean JT's upside isn't higher than Vea's though, and JT's floor is massively higher than Vea's was.WeakarmCobra said:I stand with SAC #cobralivesmatter. It think it will be very hard to top the level vita reached his last year. He absolutely dominated the cal game. They had no answer for him.
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I'll go with the kid that has offers from every team in the country.WeakarmCobra said:
Who do you think is more raw athletic specimen? I would give vita the slide edgeHillsboroDuck said:
Of course it will. The odds are against anyone outplaying what Vita did his last season. That doesn't mean JT's upside isn't higher than Vea's though, and JT's floor is massively higher than Vea's was.WeakarmCobra said:I stand with SAC #cobralivesmatter. It think it will be very hard to top the level vita reached his last year. He absolutely dominated the cal game. They had no answer for him.
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I think it's comparing apples to oranges in many ways ...
- vita came from a slightly different time in tbs'ing ...
- he was a classic case of huge untapped potential, questionable grades (iirc), not involved in the whole crootin' circuit (family modest in nature/finances)
- you could see how things could play out if the potential was realized (which happens very rarely but in Vita's case it did leading to a top 10 draft pick and him doing shit like hump moves against pac12 offensive lineman etc ...)
- jt is different because he's a different kind of player/croot
- jt doesn't potential to what vea was going to do and vice versa.
- jt's crooting revolves around the very early recognition of his potential since the 8th grade and previous.
- jt is a well know talent from the 7vs7 circuit and fsp .... iirc, vea was never associated with a 7vs7 team or an fsp type of development program. He needed his development at washington
so, two different kids and trajectories and perspectives.
put vea on the alabama team and he would be destroying people even more than he did at UW. Imagine vita with the kind of total team support that a team like clemson or bama would provide and you couldn't double team him and every plase of the team game would allow vita to seek and destroy, every down.
we kinda already know that jt could do the same thing, probably a many more positions than vea could ... but that doesn't diminish what vita is ... they are just different players.
fuck, Tequilla was just over for some buffalo trace ... -
You are fucking insane! People need to understand and appreciate that we had arguably the most talented defensive tackle of all fucking time playing for us the last couple years in Vita Vea. Nobody has been that fast and that explosive at that size before. We're talking a 350 pound man that can get off the ball as fast as a 300 pound man. A man who can rag doll 300+ pound offensive lineman with one arm. A man who is completely unblockable one-on-one versus even the best offensive lineman in the league. Vea still isn't even close to reaching his potential and will continue to get better. Seriously, shut the fuck up! JT is not more talented than Vea and does not have a higher floor or ceiling than him. You and anybody else who says that doesn't know shit about football talent. JT could be a shorter version of Deforrest Buckner and that's great. He could even be the next Haloti Ngata. But he's not on Vita's level. You can fairly compare them at the same age and Vea is easily better. I put it right in front of your fucking eyes. JT is not as fast as Vita at the same size. I don't give a fuck what he's rated versus what Vita was rated out of high school. He's not more talented than Vea. Just stop.HillsboroDuck said:
Of course it will. The odds are against anyone outplaying what Vita did his last season. That doesn't mean JT's upside isn't higher than Vea's though, and JT's floor is massively higher than Vea's was.WeakarmCobra said:I stand with SAC #cobralivesmatter. It think it will be very hard to top the level vita reached his last year. He absolutely dominated the cal game. They had no answer for him.
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That doesn't fucking matter you idiot! Vea was academically ineligible out of high school which kept his recruiting under the radar. He also didn't do any camps or 7 on 7 shit to market himself. But he could have had any offer he wanted and gone anywhere in the country. We also don't know what his real offer sheet was. He wasn't even on social media in high school so a lot of his offers could have gone unreported because he was so low key and didn't publicly announce them. Had he gone JUCO and became eligible that way he would have certainly had an offer from everybody as well.HillsboroDuck said:
I'll go with the kid that has offers from every team in the country.WeakarmCobra said:
Who do you think is more raw athletic specimen? I would give vita the slide edgeHillsboroDuck said:
Of course it will. The odds are against anyone outplaying what Vita did his last season. That doesn't mean JT's upside isn't higher than Vea's though, and JT's floor is massively higher than Vea's was.WeakarmCobra said:I stand with SAC #cobralivesmatter. It think it will be very hard to top the level vita reached his last year. He absolutely dominated the cal game. They had no answer for him.
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Next level dooging. Vea had a monster senior year, but to call him the best defensive tackle of all time, ESPECIALLY for several seasons and not just his senior year, is fucking insane dude.StrongArmCobra said:
You are fucking insane! People need to understand and appreciate that we had arguably the most talented defensive tackle of all fucking time playing for us the last couple years in Vita Vea. Nobody has been that fast and that explosive at that size before. We're talking a 350 pound man that can get off the ball as fast as a 300 pound man. A man who can rag doll 300+ pound offensive lineman with one arm. A man who is completely unblockable one-on-one versus even the best offensive lineman in the league. Vea still isn't even close to reaching his potential and will continue to get better. Seriously, shut the fuck up! JT is not more talented than Vea and does not have a higher floor or ceiling than him. You and anybody else who says that doesn't know shit about football talent. JT could be a shorter version of Deforrest Buckner and that's great. He could even be the next Haloti Ngata. But he's not on Vita's level. You can fairly compare them at the same age and Vea is easily better. I put it right in front of your fucking eyes. JT is not as fast as Vita at the same size. I don't give a fuck what he's rated versus what Vita was rated out of high school. He's not more talented than Vea. Just stop.HillsboroDuck said:
Of course it will. The odds are against anyone outplaying what Vita did his last season. That doesn't mean JT's upside isn't higher than Vea's though, and JT's floor is massively higher than Vea's was.WeakarmCobra said:I stand with SAC #cobralivesmatter. It think it will be very hard to top the level vita reached his last year. He absolutely dominated the cal game. They had no answer for him.
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I didn't call him the best defensive tackle of all time you idiot. I said he's arguably the most talented defensive tackle of all-time. Who's more talented than him? Don't worry I'll wait.bigcc said:
Next level dooging. Vea had a monster senior year, but to call him the best defensive tackle of all time, ESPECIALLY for several seasons and not just his senior year, is fucking insane dude.StrongArmCobra said:
You are fucking insane! People need to understand and appreciate that we had arguably the most talented defensive tackle of all fucking time playing for us the last couple years in Vita Vea. Nobody has been that fast and that explosive at that size before. We're talking a 350 pound man that can get off the ball as fast as a 300 pound man. A man who can rag doll 300+ pound offensive lineman with one arm. A man who is completely unblockable one-on-one versus even the best offensive lineman in the league. Vea still isn't even close to reaching his potential and will continue to get better. Seriously, shut the fuck up! JT is not more talented than Vea and does not have a higher floor or ceiling than him. You and anybody else who says that doesn't know shit about football talent. JT could be a shorter version of Deforrest Buckner and that's great. He could even be the next Haloti Ngata. But he's not on Vita's level. You can fairly compare them at the same age and Vea is easily better. I put it right in front of your fucking eyes. JT is not as fast as Vita at the same size. I don't give a fuck what he's rated versus what Vita was rated out of high school. He's not more talented than Vea. Just stop.HillsboroDuck said:
Of course it will. The odds are against anyone outplaying what Vita did his last season. That doesn't mean JT's upside isn't higher than Vea's though, and JT's floor is massively higher than Vea's was.WeakarmCobra said:I stand with SAC #cobralivesmatter. It think it will be very hard to top the level vita reached his last year. He absolutely dominated the cal game. They had no answer for him.
And why the fuck are you acting like what he did in college is as good as he's gonna get? Obviously that's not the fucking case. He's still getting better and will continue to do so until he's the most dominant D-tackle in the league.
