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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Its another unintended consequence

    Democrats led by our own Janet Reno were so disgusted about the Starr report that they said never again will it just be released by the SP

    What Janet Reno “said” sure makes trumptards fall in line 20 years later.

    Trump should just ignore all of this and sweep it under the rug for the next 20 months.

    He’s busy closing the border, eventually, with all of the mexicos anway.

    Trump is feeling it!
    The law was changed

    Like Bob said, you have to be pretty stupid and you are
    The law was changed?

    J F C

    This must be really embarrassing for you and bob. Special counsel provisions are covered under DOJ regulatory authority (28 CFR 600) the mechanics of which were put in place in 1999 by reno’s DOJ when the independent counsel law expired. Nadler and Congress can do whatever the fuck they want.

    Retards.
    If they can do what they want why are they bitching about not being able to see the full report? Just march over to the DOJ and take it. They can do whatever the fuck they want.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,034

    This is an unresolved matter unless and until the House receives the complete unredacted report being blocked by Trumps AG

    Nadler in 1998: Of course you can’t release grand-jury testimony in prosecutor’s report

    Nothing is more consistent about partisan warfare in the Beltway than inconsistency. Today’s case in point comes from 1998 (and from Jeff Dunetz), when House Judiciary Committee member Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) objected to the idea that everything found by an independent prosecutor should get published for all to see. Nadler told Charlie Rose that Ken Starr’s report might contain “all kinds of material that it would be unfair to release,” including “statements which may or may not be true by various witnesses.” Besides, Nadler argued at the time, releasing grand-jury material violated federal law.


    Yes, I know you were talking about the House receiving it. But still.
    Did the Starr report get released unredacted?Sounds like a majority favored transparency in 1998 despite nadler’s opposition. Was there strong support from republicans for full release? Must have been rather easy. Say 420-0?

    Either way. Sounds like you don’t care.


    You don't redact Penthouse Forum stories...you just don't do that. BJ's and cigars HAVE to be disclosed.

    We're fucking AMERICANS! We want our porn.

    NGAF about email servers, meetings and that other bullshit.

    Stain on blue dresses? Hell yeah!



  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,798 Founders Club
    Monday afternoon on FOX News, legal scholar Alan Dershowitz said there is "no legal basis" for Democrats to demand the release of the full Mueller report. "This is a political issue. This is a media issue. This is not a legal issue," he said.

    "I think, even if Barr were hypothetically to refuse to issue anything, there would be no legal basis for a court to compel him to do that," Dershowitz said.






    "The special counsel, under the rules, has an obligation to file a report with the attorney general. There’s nothing in the rules that require the attorney general to make the report public, particularly if it contains information critical of people who were not indicted. So, this is a political issue. This is a media issue. This is not a legal issue."

    Dershowitz added: "This rush to release is understandable. The American public wants to see this report. They’re curious. But the law has to be complied with, and the law generally protects subjects of investigations who haven’t been indicted."
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Monday afternoon on FOX News, legal scholar Alan Dershowitz said there is "no legal basis" for Democrats to demand the release of the full Mueller report. "This is a political issue. This is a media issue. This is not a legal issue," he said.

    "I think, even if Barr were hypothetically to refuse to issue anything, there would be no legal basis for a court to compel him to do that," Dershowitz said.






    "The special counsel, under the rules, has an obligation to file a report with the attorney general. There’s nothing in the rules that require the attorney general to make the report public, particularly if it contains information critical of people who were not indicted. So, this is a political issue. This is a media issue. This is not a legal issue."

    Dershowitz added: "This rush to release is understandable. The American public wants to see this report. They’re curious. But the law has to be complied with, and the law generally protects subjects of investigations who haven’t been indicted."

    None of that fucking matters, they can do whatever they want.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    US statutes authorize DOJ to create SP regulations.

    The current regulatory framework in place dates back to 1999 and Janet reno’s DOJ.

    Regulations do not carry the same authority as laws. Congress maintains oversight, management, and control over the regulatory process (thanks to strong republican inroads during the Clinton and Obama administrations).

    Trumptards are claiming that since mueller submitted his report to the AG per the SP regulations (as authorized under law) then they have complied with the law, and end of story.

    Nadler and House Dems are saying that they maintain control over DOJ and its regulatory authority. The House Judiciary Committee tomorrow is approving nadler’s authority to issue subpoenas compelling full release of the full unredacted report. (In other words “Doing whatever the fuck they want,” tomorrow.)

    We’ll see which argument wins the legal battle as the process ensues.

    Regardless, the mueller report must be extremely damaging to trump for him to go to these extremes. He would rather have this play out until November 2020? Whatever happened to 420-0?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,798 Founders Club

    Nadler and House Dems are saying that they maintain control over DOJ and its regulatory authority


    DOJ is not under the House

    Its executive branch

    Fucking morons
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    pawz said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Amgreatness is the new tin foil hat website now. Zero hedge and Brietbart aren’t far enough out there for you.

    What was the news source you used for this Hondo?

    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump

    You've got no fucking business giving anyone else shit about tin foil hat websites you pathological lying piece of shit.

    You're quite the nut hugger aren't you
    Ironic.
    You have no idea what that word means
    "I dont know anything about this topic but I'm going to weigh in anyway and you'd better respect my opinion" @MarriotaTheGawd
    Pay up deadbeat.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390


    Nadler and House Dems are saying that they maintain control over DOJ and its regulatory authority


    DOJ is not under the House

    Its executive branch

    Fucking morons

    This is really sad. Seriously.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,798 Founders Club
    Nadlertards are upset
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Nadlertards are upset

    Who?
    Nadler must be hitting a nerve.
    Why does subpoena authority frighten you so badly? Dershowits said it won’t hold up.
    Let’s lipo (until November 2020).
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    pawz said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Amgreatness is the new tin foil hat website now. Zero hedge and Brietbart aren’t far enough out there for you.

    What was the news source you used for this Hondo?

    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump

    You've got no fucking business giving anyone else shit about tin foil hat websites you pathological lying piece of shit.

    You're quite the nut hugger aren't you
    Ironic.
    You have no idea what that word means
    "I dont know anything about this topic but I'm going to weigh in anyway and you'd better respect my opinion" @MarriotaTheGawd
    Pay up deadbeat.
    "I dont know anything about this topic but I'm going to weigh in anyway and you'd better respect my opinion" @Benny FO, G Beaver



    Pay up deadbeat
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Regulations do not carry the same authority as laws

    No reason to read any further. Another fucking dipshit talking straight out of his ass.

  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    edited April 2019
    Freedom caucus request =/= congressional subpoena.

    So lipo it is!
    Whats first? Release of the unredacted mueller report or closing of our borders with all of the mexicos?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Nadler and his stapled stomach and his formally fat ass can do what every he wants Race. And regulations don't carry the same authority as law. Remember that the next you come into violation of a Federal environmental or Securities regulation.




  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,798 Founders Club
    Nadler has PROOF of collusion and is going to IMPEACH Trump

    Chuck Norris crosses the street when he sees Nadler coming
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,798 Founders Club

    Freedom caucus request =/= congressional subpoena.

    So lipo it is!
    Whats first? Release of the unredacted mueller report or closing of our borders with all of the mexicos?
    Congress has subpoenaed a bunch of shit the DOJ has refused or stalled

    But Nadlertards are going to WIN
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,798 Founders Club
    Freedom Caucus is part of Congress

    Nadlertards are losing it
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    edited April 2019
    SFGbob said:

    Nadler and his stapled stomach and his formally fat ass can do what every he wants Race. And regulations don't carry the same authority as law. Remember that the next you come into violation of a Federal environmental or Securities regulation.




    Laws originate in a legislative assembly whereas regulations originate in administrative agencies or departments. Agencies and departments are subordinate to congress (Article 1 of the constitution)

    Regulations are subordinate to laws, though are enforceable like laws

    Regulations are introduced to help implement laws.

    Nadler is driving trumptards insane with rage and anger. What environmental and securities regulations have you violated GayBob?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,798 Founders Club
    We're SCARED of Nadler

    He has PROOF of collusion
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    We're SCARED of Nadler

    He has PROOF of collusion

    420-0
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,798 Founders Club
    This time we have Trump nailed

    Trust me

    This time

    We got him

    NADLER HAS PROOF

    It's going to be fun when the report is released

    Nadlertards will run and hide
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    This time we have Trump nailed

    Trust me

    This time

    We got him

    NADLER HAS PROOF

    It's going to be fun when the report is released

    Nadlertards will run and hide

    Calm down. Stop being so angry No one said, “the hammer is falling,”
    I already said lipo.
    Sometime over the next 18 months or so this will all get settled. Either way. (I’m sure grundle won’t care).
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,798 Founders Club
    My money is on NADLER

    If he can't do it SCHIFF can
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club

    My money is on NADLER

    If he can't do it SCHIFF can

    @PencilNeck true ?!
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    My money is on NADLER

    If he can't do it SCHIFF can

    I’m betting on trump closing the border with the mexicos first. It’s a national emergency after all. Trump is concerned about security. More than trade. Either Mexico pays up or the border is closed. Soon.

    Border closing before mueller report release is the best bet.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,798 Founders Club
    Nadler will close the border. He can do whatever he wants
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Tl,Dr. But are Troomps really advocating to not release the full report now? Wonder why that is.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Tl,Dr. But are Troomps really advocating to not release the full report now? Wonder why that is.

    420-0 hasn't changed.

    Feel free to light yourself on fire.