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Justus Legg, 3* 2019 BUCK, Auburn (Riverside?), WA

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  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
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    HFNY said:

    So what's going on with Justus Legg?

    He gone
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,461
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    Ballz Jesus Christ.

    If the point is UW would develop him better than tOSU I guess you could point to Ross being a borderline bust and Pettis making some plays when not injured and Jermaine Kearse doing stuff still.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    edited January 2019
    Doogles said:

    Ballz Jesus Christ.

    If the point is UW would develop him better than tOSU I guess you could point to Ross being a borderline bust and Pettis making some plays when not injured and Jermaine Kearse doing stuff still.

    That was never my point. My point was that Ohio State's talent evaluations at the WR position have not been great. They have recruited a lot of 4-star receivers who never became NFL guys. They have underachieved at the WR position based on the rankings of the receivers they've recruited over the years. Not saying Gee Scott is for sure going to be a bust but I do think he's overrated. I don't see the speed or dominance at the high school level to justify his top 100 ranking and him committing to OSU does not change that. If Petersen makes a good hire at WR coach, UW can and will get better WR prospects in the 2020 class.
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
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    Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.

    Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.













    (I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
    Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.
    When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.

    Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.

    2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
    Noah Brown- 7th

    2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
    Braxton Miller- 3rd

    2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
    Evan Spencer- 6th
    Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFL
    Lol no he's not.
    Bump.

    Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.
    *One hit wonder*


    He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.
    I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.

    You said "LOL he's not".

    I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.

    hth
    He still not top-5, I'd prefer

    Julio Jones
    Odell Beckham Jr
    Antonio Brown
    T.Y. Hilton
    Tyler Lockett

    Over him.
    TY Hilton?

    GTFOH
    Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.
    23. Browns get their No. 1 wideout
    Dolphins trade: WR Jarvis Landry
    Browns trade: 4-123, 2019 seventh-round pick

    The Dolphins placed the franchise tag on Landry in the hopes of getting a draft pick and ended up netting a fourth-rounder from the Browns. Miami appears to have used the seventh-rounder to acquire 16-game starter Akeem Spence from the Lions. The fourth-round pick was used on tight end Durham Smythe, who caught six passes as a rookie. After signing Danny Amendola and Albert Wilson last offseason, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains bizarrely suggested that the Dolphins would use three tight ends for stretches in 2018; in the end, Miami used 13 personnel 33 times for 64 yards and just five first downs, each of which ranked among the lowest marks in football.


    The bigger name in the trade was Landry, who signed a five-year, $75.5 million deal with the Browns after coming over from Miami. His first year in Ohio was uneven. Landry wasn't used as a source of cheap yards in his new home; his average target traveled 10.8 yards in the air, way up from the almost comically low 6.6-yard average Landry worked with during his three years in Miami. Simultaneously, though, Landry went from catching nearly 69 percent of his passes from 2015 to 2017 in Miami to just 54.4 percent in Cleveland last season. The changes weren't for the better, as Landry finished 79th in individual receiving DVOA, suggesting that the Browns might need to return Landry to his specialized role to get the sort of return they were hoping to garner from their top wideout.

    Impact grade: C

    BallzDeep Top 5 Receiver!!
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.

    Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.













    (I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
    Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.
    When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.

    Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.

    2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
    Noah Brown- 7th

    2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
    Braxton Miller- 3rd

    2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
    Evan Spencer- 6th
    Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFL
    Lol no he's not.
    Bump.

    Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.
    *One hit wonder*


    He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.
    I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.

    You said "LOL he's not".

    I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.

    hth
    He still not top-5, I'd prefer

    Julio Jones
    Odell Beckham Jr
    Antonio Brown
    T.Y. Hilton
    Tyler Lockett

    Over him.
    TY Hilton?

    GTFOH
    Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.
    23. Browns get their No. 1 wideout
    Dolphins trade: WR Jarvis Landry
    Browns trade: 4-123, 2019 seventh-round pick

    The Dolphins placed the franchise tag on Landry in the hopes of getting a draft pick and ended up netting a fourth-rounder from the Browns. Miami appears to have used the seventh-rounder to acquire 16-game starter Akeem Spence from the Lions. The fourth-round pick was used on tight end Durham Smythe, who caught six passes as a rookie. After signing Danny Amendola and Albert Wilson last offseason, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains bizarrely suggested that the Dolphins would use three tight ends for stretches in 2018; in the end, Miami used 13 personnel 33 times for 64 yards and just five first downs, each of which ranked among the lowest marks in football.


    The bigger name in the trade was Landry, who signed a five-year, $75.5 million deal with the Browns after coming over from Miami. His first year in Ohio was uneven. Landry wasn't used as a source of cheap yards in his new home; his average target traveled 10.8 yards in the air, way up from the almost comically low 6.6-yard average Landry worked with during his three years in Miami. Simultaneously, though, Landry went from catching nearly 69 percent of his passes from 2015 to 2017 in Miami to just 54.4 percent in Cleveland last season. The changes weren't for the better, as Landry finished 79th in individual receiving DVOA, suggesting that the Browns might need to return Landry to his specialized role to get the sort of return they were hoping to garner from their top wideout.

    Impact grade: C

    BallzDeep Top 5 Receiver!!
    He plays for the Browns bro. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt when they're playing for the worst organization in the league. He's working with a rookie QB who's now working with a second head coach and they don't have a real #2 WR option after Landry. Context matters. Stop trying to prove me wrong. You'll never win. NEVER!
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
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    Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.

    Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.













    (I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
    Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.
    When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.

    Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.

    2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
    Noah Brown- 7th

    2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
    Braxton Miller- 3rd

    2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
    Evan Spencer- 6th
    Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFL
    Lol no he's not.
    Bump.

    Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.
    *One hit wonder*


    He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.
    I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.

    You said "LOL he's not".

    I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.

    hth
    He still not top-5, I'd prefer

    Julio Jones
    Odell Beckham Jr
    Antonio Brown
    T.Y. Hilton
    Tyler Lockett

    Over him.
    TY Hilton?

    GTFOH
    Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.
    23. Browns get their No. 1 wideout
    Dolphins trade: WR Jarvis Landry
    Browns trade: 4-123, 2019 seventh-round pick

    The Dolphins placed the franchise tag on Landry in the hopes of getting a draft pick and ended up netting a fourth-rounder from the Browns. Miami appears to have used the seventh-rounder to acquire 16-game starter Akeem Spence from the Lions. The fourth-round pick was used on tight end Durham Smythe, who caught six passes as a rookie. After signing Danny Amendola and Albert Wilson last offseason, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains bizarrely suggested that the Dolphins would use three tight ends for stretches in 2018; in the end, Miami used 13 personnel 33 times for 64 yards and just five first downs, each of which ranked among the lowest marks in football.


    The bigger name in the trade was Landry, who signed a five-year, $75.5 million deal with the Browns after coming over from Miami. His first year in Ohio was uneven. Landry wasn't used as a source of cheap yards in his new home; his average target traveled 10.8 yards in the air, way up from the almost comically low 6.6-yard average Landry worked with during his three years in Miami. Simultaneously, though, Landry went from catching nearly 69 percent of his passes from 2015 to 2017 in Miami to just 54.4 percent in Cleveland last season. The changes weren't for the better, as Landry finished 79th in individual receiving DVOA, suggesting that the Browns might need to return Landry to his specialized role to get the sort of return they were hoping to garner from their top wideout.

    Impact grade: C

    BallzDeep Top 5 Receiver!!
    He plays for the Browns bro. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt when they're playing for the worst organization in the league. He's working with a rookie QB who's now working with a second head coach and they don't have a real #2 WR option after Landry. Context matters. Stop trying to prove me wrong. You'll never win. NEVER!
    You ranked Jarvis Landry as a top 5 receiver.

    You already lost.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.

    Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.













    (I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
    Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.
    When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.

    Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.

    2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
    Noah Brown- 7th

    2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
    Braxton Miller- 3rd

    2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
    Evan Spencer- 6th
    Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFL
    Lol no he's not.
    Bump.

    Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.
    *One hit wonder*


    He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.
    I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.

    You said "LOL he's not".

    I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.

    hth
    He still not top-5, I'd prefer

    Julio Jones
    Odell Beckham Jr
    Antonio Brown
    T.Y. Hilton
    Tyler Lockett

    Over him.
    TY Hilton?

    GTFOH
    Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.
    23. Browns get their No. 1 wideout
    Dolphins trade: WR Jarvis Landry
    Browns trade: 4-123, 2019 seventh-round pick

    The Dolphins placed the franchise tag on Landry in the hopes of getting a draft pick and ended up netting a fourth-rounder from the Browns. Miami appears to have used the seventh-rounder to acquire 16-game starter Akeem Spence from the Lions. The fourth-round pick was used on tight end Durham Smythe, who caught six passes as a rookie. After signing Danny Amendola and Albert Wilson last offseason, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains bizarrely suggested that the Dolphins would use three tight ends for stretches in 2018; in the end, Miami used 13 personnel 33 times for 64 yards and just five first downs, each of which ranked among the lowest marks in football.


    The bigger name in the trade was Landry, who signed a five-year, $75.5 million deal with the Browns after coming over from Miami. His first year in Ohio was uneven. Landry wasn't used as a source of cheap yards in his new home; his average target traveled 10.8 yards in the air, way up from the almost comically low 6.6-yard average Landry worked with during his three years in Miami. Simultaneously, though, Landry went from catching nearly 69 percent of his passes from 2015 to 2017 in Miami to just 54.4 percent in Cleveland last season. The changes weren't for the better, as Landry finished 79th in individual receiving DVOA, suggesting that the Browns might need to return Landry to his specialized role to get the sort of return they were hoping to garner from their top wideout.

    Impact grade: C

    BallzDeep Top 5 Receiver!!
    He plays for the Browns bro. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt when they're playing for the worst organization in the league. He's working with a rookie QB who's now working with a second head coach and they don't have a real #2 WR option after Landry. Context matters. Stop trying to prove me wrong. You'll never win. NEVER!
    You ranked Jarvis Landry as a top 5 receiver.

    You already lost.
    Then why bother digging up old shit if you already think I lost? hmmmmm? That's what I thought.
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
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    Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.

    Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.













    (I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
    Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.
    When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.

    Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.

    2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
    Noah Brown- 7th

    2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
    Braxton Miller- 3rd

    2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
    Evan Spencer- 6th
    Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFL
    Lol no he's not.
    Bump.

    Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.
    *One hit wonder*


    He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.
    I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.

    You said "LOL he's not".

    I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.

    hth
    He still not top-5, I'd prefer

    Julio Jones
    Odell Beckham Jr
    Antonio Brown
    T.Y. Hilton
    Tyler Lockett

    Over him.
    TY Hilton?

    GTFOH
    Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.
    23. Browns get their No. 1 wideout
    Dolphins trade: WR Jarvis Landry
    Browns trade: 4-123, 2019 seventh-round pick

    The Dolphins placed the franchise tag on Landry in the hopes of getting a draft pick and ended up netting a fourth-rounder from the Browns. Miami appears to have used the seventh-rounder to acquire 16-game starter Akeem Spence from the Lions. The fourth-round pick was used on tight end Durham Smythe, who caught six passes as a rookie. After signing Danny Amendola and Albert Wilson last offseason, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains bizarrely suggested that the Dolphins would use three tight ends for stretches in 2018; in the end, Miami used 13 personnel 33 times for 64 yards and just five first downs, each of which ranked among the lowest marks in football.


    The bigger name in the trade was Landry, who signed a five-year, $75.5 million deal with the Browns after coming over from Miami. His first year in Ohio was uneven. Landry wasn't used as a source of cheap yards in his new home; his average target traveled 10.8 yards in the air, way up from the almost comically low 6.6-yard average Landry worked with during his three years in Miami. Simultaneously, though, Landry went from catching nearly 69 percent of his passes from 2015 to 2017 in Miami to just 54.4 percent in Cleveland last season. The changes weren't for the better, as Landry finished 79th in individual receiving DVOA, suggesting that the Browns might need to return Landry to his specialized role to get the sort of return they were hoping to garner from their top wideout.

    Impact grade: C

    BallzDeep Top 5 Receiver!!
    He plays for the Browns bro. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt when they're playing for the worst organization in the league. He's working with a rookie QB who's now working with a second head coach and they don't have a real #2 WR option after Landry. Context matters. Stop trying to prove me wrong. You'll never win. NEVER!
    You ranked Jarvis Landry as a top 5 receiver.

    You already lost.
    Then why bother digging up old shit if you already think I lost? hmmmmm? That's what I thought.
    Because reminding you is fun
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.

    Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.













    (I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
    Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.
    When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.

    Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.

    2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
    Noah Brown- 7th

    2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
    Braxton Miller- 3rd

    2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
    Evan Spencer- 6th
    Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFL
    Lol no he's not.
    Bump.

    Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.
    *One hit wonder*


    He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.
    I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.

    You said "LOL he's not".

    I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.

    hth
    He still not top-5, I'd prefer

    Julio Jones
    Odell Beckham Jr
    Antonio Brown
    T.Y. Hilton
    Tyler Lockett

    Over him.
    TY Hilton?

    GTFOH
    Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.
    23. Browns get their No. 1 wideout
    Dolphins trade: WR Jarvis Landry
    Browns trade: 4-123, 2019 seventh-round pick

    The Dolphins placed the franchise tag on Landry in the hopes of getting a draft pick and ended up netting a fourth-rounder from the Browns. Miami appears to have used the seventh-rounder to acquire 16-game starter Akeem Spence from the Lions. The fourth-round pick was used on tight end Durham Smythe, who caught six passes as a rookie. After signing Danny Amendola and Albert Wilson last offseason, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains bizarrely suggested that the Dolphins would use three tight ends for stretches in 2018; in the end, Miami used 13 personnel 33 times for 64 yards and just five first downs, each of which ranked among the lowest marks in football.


    The bigger name in the trade was Landry, who signed a five-year, $75.5 million deal with the Browns after coming over from Miami. His first year in Ohio was uneven. Landry wasn't used as a source of cheap yards in his new home; his average target traveled 10.8 yards in the air, way up from the almost comically low 6.6-yard average Landry worked with during his three years in Miami. Simultaneously, though, Landry went from catching nearly 69 percent of his passes from 2015 to 2017 in Miami to just 54.4 percent in Cleveland last season. The changes weren't for the better, as Landry finished 79th in individual receiving DVOA, suggesting that the Browns might need to return Landry to his specialized role to get the sort of return they were hoping to garner from their top wideout.

    Impact grade: C

    BallzDeep Top 5 Receiver!!
    He plays for the Browns bro. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt when they're playing for the worst organization in the league. He's working with a rookie QB who's now working with a second head coach and they don't have a real #2 WR option after Landry. Context matters. Stop trying to prove me wrong. You'll never win. NEVER!
    You ranked Jarvis Landry as a top 5 receiver.

    You already lost.
    Then why bother digging up old shit if you already think I lost? hmmmmm? That's what I thought.
    Because reminding you is fun
    Thanks for reminding me I won. 'preciate it bro ✊
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    First Anniversary 5 Up Votes 5 Awesomes Combo Breaker

    Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.

    Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.













    (I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
    Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.
    When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.

    Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.

    2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
    Noah Brown- 7th

    2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
    Braxton Miller- 3rd

    2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
    Evan Spencer- 6th
    Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFL
    Lol no he's not.
    Bump.

    Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.
    *One hit wonder*


    He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.
    I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.

    You said "LOL he's not".

    I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.

    hth
    He still not top-5, I'd prefer

    Julio Jones
    Odell Beckham Jr
    Antonio Brown
    T.Y. Hilton
    Tyler Lockett

    Over him.
    TY Hilton?

    GTFOH
    Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.
    23. Browns get their No. 1 wideout
    Dolphins trade: WR Jarvis Landry
    Browns trade: 4-123, 2019 seventh-round pick

    The Dolphins placed the franchise tag on Landry in the hopes of getting a draft pick and ended up netting a fourth-rounder from the Browns. Miami appears to have used the seventh-rounder to acquire 16-game starter Akeem Spence from the Lions. The fourth-round pick was used on tight end Durham Smythe, who caught six passes as a rookie. After signing Danny Amendola and Albert Wilson last offseason, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains bizarrely suggested that the Dolphins would use three tight ends for stretches in 2018; in the end, Miami used 13 personnel 33 times for 64 yards and just five first downs, each of which ranked among the lowest marks in football.


    The bigger name in the trade was Landry, who signed a five-year, $75.5 million deal with the Browns after coming over from Miami. His first year in Ohio was uneven. Landry wasn't used as a source of cheap yards in his new home; his average target traveled 10.8 yards in the air, way up from the almost comically low 6.6-yard average Landry worked with during his three years in Miami. Simultaneously, though, Landry went from catching nearly 69 percent of his passes from 2015 to 2017 in Miami to just 54.4 percent in Cleveland last season. The changes weren't for the better, as Landry finished 79th in individual receiving DVOA, suggesting that the Browns might need to return Landry to his specialized role to get the sort of return they were hoping to garner from their top wideout.

    Impact grade: C

    BallzDeep Top 5 Receiver!!
    He plays for the Browns bro. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt when they're playing for the worst organization in the league. He's working with a rookie QB who's now working with a second head coach and they don't have a real #2 WR option after Landry. Context matters. Stop trying to prove me wrong. You'll never win. NEVER!
    You ranked Jarvis Landry as a top 5 receiver.

    You already lost.
    Then why bother digging up old shit if you already think I lost? hmmmmm? That's what I thought.
    Because reminding you is fun
    Thanks for reminding me I won. 'preciate it bro ✊
    If calling a guy who is lucky to be a top 50 WR top 5 is winning, you win all the damn time.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes First Anniversary 5 Fuck Offs

    Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.

    Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.













    (I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
    Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.
    When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.

    Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.

    2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
    Noah Brown- 7th

    2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
    Braxton Miller- 3rd

    2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
    Evan Spencer- 6th
    Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFL
    Lol no he's not.
    Bump.

    Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.
    *One hit wonder*


    He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.
    I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.

    You said "LOL he's not".

    I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.

    hth
    He still not top-5, I'd prefer

    Julio Jones
    Odell Beckham Jr
    Antonio Brown
    T.Y. Hilton
    Tyler Lockett

    Over him.
    TY Hilton?

    GTFOH
    Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.
    23. Browns get their No. 1 wideout
    Dolphins trade: WR Jarvis Landry
    Browns trade: 4-123, 2019 seventh-round pick

    The Dolphins placed the franchise tag on Landry in the hopes of getting a draft pick and ended up netting a fourth-rounder from the Browns. Miami appears to have used the seventh-rounder to acquire 16-game starter Akeem Spence from the Lions. The fourth-round pick was used on tight end Durham Smythe, who caught six passes as a rookie. After signing Danny Amendola and Albert Wilson last offseason, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains bizarrely suggested that the Dolphins would use three tight ends for stretches in 2018; in the end, Miami used 13 personnel 33 times for 64 yards and just five first downs, each of which ranked among the lowest marks in football.


    The bigger name in the trade was Landry, who signed a five-year, $75.5 million deal with the Browns after coming over from Miami. His first year in Ohio was uneven. Landry wasn't used as a source of cheap yards in his new home; his average target traveled 10.8 yards in the air, way up from the almost comically low 6.6-yard average Landry worked with during his three years in Miami. Simultaneously, though, Landry went from catching nearly 69 percent of his passes from 2015 to 2017 in Miami to just 54.4 percent in Cleveland last season. The changes weren't for the better, as Landry finished 79th in individual receiving DVOA, suggesting that the Browns might need to return Landry to his specialized role to get the sort of return they were hoping to garner from their top wideout.

    Impact grade: C

    BallzDeep Top 5 Receiver!!
    He plays for the Browns bro. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt when they're playing for the worst organization in the league. He's working with a rookie QB who's now working with a second head coach and they don't have a real #2 WR option after Landry. Context matters. Stop trying to prove me wrong. You'll never win. NEVER!
    You ranked Jarvis Landry as a top 5 receiver.

    You already lost.
    Then why bother digging up old shit if you already think I lost? hmmmmm? That's what I thought.
    Because reminding you is fun
    Thanks for reminding me I won. 'preciate it bro ✊
    If calling a guy who is lucky to be a top 50 WR top 5 is winning, you win all the damn time.
    Why are you still talking? I already won. End of discussion.
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    First Anniversary 5 Up Votes 5 Awesomes Combo Breaker

    Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.

    Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.













    (I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
    Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.


    LOL Ballz
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,103
    First Anniversary First Comment 5 Up Votes 5 Awesomes
    Swaye's Wigwam
    This thread was painful to read but I did it anyways.


  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    Never heard of him. He did nothing impressive in the Rose Bowl. Ohio State guys are always over hyped and do nothing in the NFL.
  • NorwegianHuskyNorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,422
    First Anniversary 5 Up Votes 5 Awesomes First Comment

    Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.

    Bruh even I knew Legg was overrated back then. Stop making sweeping generalizations.

    Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.

    Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.













    (I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
    Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.


    LOL Ballz
    Parris Campbell is mediocre. At least in terms of NFL projection. He's a more productive Curtis Samuel. Terry McLaurin is actually kind of good though.
  • longduckdonglongduckdong Member Posts: 1,005
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    He turned down Ducks and Michigan for PSU.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
    First Anniversary First Comment 5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes

    Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.

    Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.













    (I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
    Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.
    When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.

    Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.

    2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
    Noah Brown- 7th

    2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
    Braxton Miller- 3rd

    2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
    Evan Spencer- 6th
    Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFL
    Lol no he's not.
    Bump.

    Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.
    *One hit wonder*


    He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.
    I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.

    You said "LOL he's not".

    I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.

    hth
    He still not top-5, I'd prefer

    Julio Jones
    Odell Beckham Jr
    Antonio Brown
    T.Y. Hilton
    Tyler Lockett

    Over him.
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