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Marjon Beauchamp
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There is a wide variety of levels within the '5* rating' not all of those are the one and done types who are out of this world and way above any of the competition. Beauchamp is not at that level. What he is, is someone that fills up the stat sheet, all around player, he'll be a 2-3 year guy, and biggest of all he is from our backyard.
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This may be your first week over here, but at least do some research about how unlikely it is that freshman make major impacts on their team. There are a handful(like 10) in the nation who make major impacts as freshman. The majority of guys that are drafted in the lottery weren't unreal college players, they are still being drafted on potential not stats. It's rare for freshman to come in and be absolute studs.BroadcastingDawg said:
I'd much rather have players who are ready to make an immediate impact... the Nowell types. Raequan Battle is a better player than Beuachamp right now in my opinion. He's an elite athlete with a CJ Wilcox level stroke. He'll get on the floor and contribute right away. I'm not saying Beauchamp can't be a good player, I just don't think his 5-star designation is accurate.RoadDawg55 said:
It would suck if he was so bad he had to stay 2-3 years.BroadcastingDawg said:I stand by my comments.
He's not up to the level of a 5-star prospect.
He's gotta put on 20 lbs of muscle or he's gonna get bullied. Better athletes already bully him at the HS level... watch the highlights when they played the team from Temecula... where was he? He looked like shit compared to the stars on that team.
Playing alongside the best talent the state has to offer by transferring high schools 4 different times masks a lot of his deficiencies.
He's an OK basketball player due for a major wake-up call at the next level.
If he were a 4 star I'd be much less critical. A 5-star kid I expect to come in and average 20 off the rip and start for the Dawgs. He won't... and a kid who has transferred 14 times? I wonder how not seeing the floor will go... can you say pout.
I was actually pissed we didn't get CJ Elleby... I think he's a better college prospect than Beauchamp... and fits our system a lot better.
You know who will a freaking stud the second he steps on the floor? Isaiah Stewart... he's elite talent.
The idea is that you bring in as much talent as you can and hope one of them surprises you, or can be a great role player and develop over the course of the year. If you're going to hold out for all the top end 5* that will make a difference you need to take up rooting for Duke, UK, etc. UW will never be successful trolling for those players. UW needs to model itself after the Michigan states, syracuse(years ago), or even dare i say it, Gonzaga. They will have top end talent here and there, but the majority of their guys are good solid players who will be around for a few years. -
Villanova won 2 titles without any one and done guys. Even the years that Duke and Kentucky won, they both had quality upperclassmen. One and done isn’t sustainable at UW.FreeChavez said:
This may be your first week over here, but at least do some research about how unlikely it is that freshman make major impacts on their team. There are a handful(like 10) in the nation who make major impacts as freshman. The majority of guys that are drafted in the lottery weren't unreal college players, they are still being drafted on potential not stats. It's rare for freshman to come in and be absolute studs.BroadcastingDawg said:
I'd much rather have players who are ready to make an immediate impact... the Nowell types. Raequan Battle is a better player than Beuachamp right now in my opinion. He's an elite athlete with a CJ Wilcox level stroke. He'll get on the floor and contribute right away. I'm not saying Beauchamp can't be a good player, I just don't think his 5-star designation is accurate.RoadDawg55 said:
It would suck if he was so bad he had to stay 2-3 years.BroadcastingDawg said:I stand by my comments.
He's not up to the level of a 5-star prospect.
He's gotta put on 20 lbs of muscle or he's gonna get bullied. Better athletes already bully him at the HS level... watch the highlights when they played the team from Temecula... where was he? He looked like shit compared to the stars on that team.
Playing alongside the best talent the state has to offer by transferring high schools 4 different times masks a lot of his deficiencies.
He's an OK basketball player due for a major wake-up call at the next level.
If he were a 4 star I'd be much less critical. A 5-star kid I expect to come in and average 20 off the rip and start for the Dawgs. He won't... and a kid who has transferred 14 times? I wonder how not seeing the floor will go... can you say pout.
I was actually pissed we didn't get CJ Elleby... I think he's a better college prospect than Beauchamp... and fits our system a lot better.
You know who will a freaking stud the second he steps on the floor? Isaiah Stewart... he's elite talent.
The idea is that you bring in as much talent as you can and hope one of them surprises you, or can be a great role player and develop over the course of the year. If you're going to hold out for all the top end 5* that will make a difference you need to take up rooting for Duke, UK, etc. UW will never be successful trolling for those players. UW needs to model itself after the Michigan states, syracuse(years ago), or even dare i say it, Gonzaga. They will have top end talent here and there, but the majority of their guys are good solid players who will be around for a few years.
There are reasons to be excited about UW next year if Nowell stays. They won’t do too much damage without him. -
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Fucking kids. So demanding these days.
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Preach on. I don't know elite talent from talent but if your assessment is correct, then the players of this level are how you build a sustainable program in college basketball today. Villanova and Michigan, maybe UNC seem to be the best at collecting bankable talent and getting them to stay for 3-4 years and make runs to the final four without lottery level kids. Virginia wins a ton but hasn't broke through the glass ceiling yet. That is the only recipe for UW to succeed. We are not and will not ever be Duke or Kentucky. That doesn't mean that we can't be fucking good. Pay Hopkins, NOW!Rapeculturedawg said:There is a wide variety of levels within the '5* rating' not all of those are the one and done types who are out of this world and way above any of the competition. Beauchamp is not at that level. What he is, is someone that fills up the stat sheet, all around player, he'll be a 2-3 year guy, and biggest of all he is from our backyard.
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I agree in that he isn't a 5* but is a damn good 4*. He still has a year of physical maturing before he enrolls anywhere. Some people forget that Zach Lavine, couldn't dunk as a sophomore. BTW I think Zach Lavine was the better player, and he was a 4*. Saw MarJon tonight at game, and has legit height. I'd love it if he goes back home to Yakima next year and plays for Davis.
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JT Tuimoloau was also present at the game
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Thought he was at the FSP thing last night...jhfstyle24 said:JT Tuimoloau was also present at the game
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Listen man... I don't want to be an asshole. But if there ever was an overrated 5-star it's Marjon Beauchamp. He's not as good as his designation. He has length, so I can imagine why the Dawgs are interested... but as an overall prospect? Meh... he's not that athletic, his ball handling is OK but he's not a point guard. Strength? What strength? His shot is average... the rotation ain't great. I just don't see what he does *really* well...RDR said:
This is what happened. He played with MPJ at Nathan Hale and it got him exposure... he hasn't lived up to his designation as a 5-star that was given to him as a freshman... yet for some odd reason they keep him there.
He's a 4-star at best and I'd argue borderline 3-star given what I've seen from him. I would not be sad in the least if he's not a Husky.
PJ Fuller is a much better player than this kid... I'm actually sad that he's not gonna be a Dawg. -
@BroadcastingDawg true?HillsboroDuck said:
Listen man... I don't want to be an asshole. But if there ever was an overrated 5-star it's Marjon Beauchamp. He's not as good as his designation. He has length, so I can imagine why the Dawgs are interested... but as an overall prospect? Meh... he's not that athletic, his ball handling is OK but he's not a point guard. Strength? What strength? His shot is average... the rotation ain't great. I just don't see what he does *really* well...RDR said:
This is what happened. He played with MPJ at Nathan Hale and it got him exposure... he hasn't lived up to his designation as a 5-star that was given to him as a freshman... yet for some odd reason they keep him there.
He's a 4-star at best and I'd argue borderline 3-star given what I've seen from him. I would not be sad in the least if he's not a Husky.
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Watched Marjon at the dome last week. Great handles, crazy length (7'2" wingspan if i had to guess) looked great driving into the lane, had a decent shot as well. Picked up a tech late in one of the games, butbwhatever.
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All the way down at #31 in ESPN's newest update.
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Espn doesnt know shitHillsboroDuck said:All the way down at #31 in ESPN's newest update.
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They're much better at basketball than football.Rapeculturedawg said:
Espn doesnt know shitHillsboroDuck said:All the way down at #31 in ESPN's newest update.
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LolHillsboroDuck said:
They're much better at basketball than football.Rapeculturedawg said:
Espn doesnt know shitHillsboroDuck said:All the way down at #31 in ESPN's newest update.
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Espn’s recruiting rankings for both sports are poverty
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@BroadcastingDawg feels vindicatedHillsboroDuck said:All the way down at #31 in ESPN's newest update.
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Doesn't have the game, athleticism or physique of a 5-starCuntWaffle said:
@BroadcastingDawg feels vindicatedHillsboroDuck said:All the way down at #31 in ESPN's newest update.
#TheDisrespect
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You like to suck cock assBroadcastingDawg said:
Doesn't have the game, athleticism or physique of a 5-starCuntWaffle said:
@BroadcastingDawg feels vindicatedHillsboroDuck said:All the way down at #31 in ESPN's newest update.
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Up voted only for use of suck cock ass in a place that makes no damn senseWeakarmCobra said:
You like to suck cock assBroadcastingDawg said:
Doesn't have the game, athleticism or physique of a 5-starCuntWaffle said:
@BroadcastingDawg feels vindicatedHillsboroDuck said:All the way down at #31 in ESPN's newest update.
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Why is everyone so sensitive about Beauchamp here? I don't get it.
He's a good basketball player with some noticeable weaknesses. He's not a 5 star.
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Please see every single lemming rant about stockpiling talent... I lemm with this one.BroadcastingDawg said:Why is everyone so sensitive about Beauchamp here? I don't get it.
He's a good basketball player with some noticeable weaknesses. He's not a 5 star.
That's not really all that controversial in my eyes.
Also, the glory days of udub hoops were built on the amazing run of local talent. I know it's surprising but a lot of people on here are old AF and think that if things were just that way again, all would be right in the world that is our UW.
Also, probably why there's even more hand-ringing at signing the local guys in FB the next 2-3 yrs and beyond.
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Going to Bella Vista Prep in AZ for his senior season.
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Guess he wants to get a head start on bonning the Arizona chicksRapeculturedawg said:Going to Bella Vista Prep in AZ for his senior season.
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Word on the street always was that Romar cheated in his early years at UW, went clean in the mid years, and started cheating again in his last 3-4 years. Allegedly.FreeChavez said:
If any coach was $paying kids, it was romar. He was getting top end talent without sniffing the NCAA Tourney and yet still pulling in top end talent with what argument? Um, we haven't sniffed a tourney in half a decade but you alone will make us a f4 team??? Hop's team is currently undefeated in league(albeit a shitty one), but the writing is on the wall that his program is on its way up rather than the other direction. At least I can see the selling point.HillsboroDuck said:
Another fun secret for all. Just about all 5* top end guys get some sort of $. Let's stop being choirs boys and put on our big boy pants. Whether they get paid or not, who fucking cares. They should get paid. We just may have a coach who can put the players who get here into some sort of successful situation.
Another side note, Seattle basketball has some talent again. Most of the guys are coming from our backyard. We should be getting a good % of these guys
