Freezing in the dark. It's what's for supper.
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It even works at night or when Hondo don't blow!GrundleStiltzkin said:There is a proven solar conversion technology today, that has zero carbon emissions and has inherent storage capabilities.
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I'm hearing horses fart. Solar bike lanes.RaceBannon said:We wont be building any interstate freeways under Chairman Cortez
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Investment in natural gas infrastructure has little to do with investments in electricity generation. We (?) invest through rates. Natural gas and electricity rate schedules are set independently of one another. If a natural gas LDC like Xcel needed to upgrade it's natural gas distribution system then it would raise it's T&D portion of it's natural gas rate schedule.WestlinnDuck said:The article is not misleading. We have under invested in natural gas pipelines in favor of wind and solar. Also taking base load coal off line has created to the base load problem. What is outright ignorance is trying to defend what happened. What then moves into outright stupidity is doubling or tripling down on the fantasy that we can take all baseline production off line.
I'm not in favor of shutting down thermal baseload if its economic. I'm also not a fan of the GND but posting articles like this that try to pin this event ,which was local natural gas supply outage issue, on something totally unrelated like renewables investment is retarded. If there was a power outage caused by the intermittency of renewables then it would be a different story. -
Umm, the shit's supposed to go in the tank & piss goes into the field.PurpleThrobber said:
My clean water comes from a well on my own property. My shit goes into a septic field.2001400ex said:
I'm not sure that answers the question.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber is old and rich. Writing a check isn't a problem.2001400ex said:
Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.2001400ex said:
That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.PurpleThrobber said:The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.
There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.
That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.
The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.
Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
I was trying to help you poors.
I'm fairly certain a good chunk of my gas tax goes to pay for that interstate system.
Next question?
Are your solids not so solid? And does your yard smell poopy, by chance?
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Just sayin. HTH. -
It's how a lot of America's waste gets taken care of.TurdBuffer said:
Just sayin. HTH. -
We had septic in the neighborhood until I was about 12, then the development petitioned the county to put in sewers. I can't believe not one kid died climbing down into the sewer trenches after dark with dim, old-school Eveready flashlights. It's a bloody miracle.
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TurdBuffer said:
Umm, the shit's supposed to go in the tank & piss goes into the field.PurpleThrobber said:
My clean water comes from a well on my own property. My shit goes into a septic field.2001400ex said:
I'm not sure that answers the question.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber is old and rich. Writing a check isn't a problem.2001400ex said:
Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.2001400ex said:
That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.PurpleThrobber said:The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.
There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.
That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.
The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.
Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
I was trying to help you poors.
I'm fairly certain a good chunk of my gas tax goes to pay for that interstate system.
Next question?
Are your solids not so solid? And does your yard smell poopy, by chance?
yeah -that's pretty well the setup.
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PROVE IT!!!!PurpleThrobber said:TurdBuffer said:
Umm, the shit's supposed to go in the tank & piss goes into the field.PurpleThrobber said:
My clean water comes from a well on my own property. My shit goes into a septic field.2001400ex said:
I'm not sure that answers the question.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber is old and rich. Writing a check isn't a problem.2001400ex said:
Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.2001400ex said:
That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.PurpleThrobber said:The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.
There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.
That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.
The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.
Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
I was trying to help you poors.
I'm fairly certain a good chunk of my gas tax goes to pay for that interstate system.
Next question?
Are your solids not so solid? And does your yard smell poopy, by chance?
yeah -that's pretty well the setup. -
TurdBuffer said:
Umm, the shit's supposed to go in the tank & piss goes into the field.PurpleThrobber said:
My clean water comes from a well on my own property. My shit goes into a septic field.2001400ex said:
I'm not sure that answers the question.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber is old and rich. Writing a check isn't a problem.2001400ex said:
Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.2001400ex said:
That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.PurpleThrobber said:The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.
There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.
That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.
The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.
Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
I was trying to help you poors.
I'm fairly certain a good chunk of my gas tax goes to pay for that interstate system.
Next question?
Are your solids not so solid? And does your yard smell poopy, by chance?
Septic superiority guy weighs in!!! -
Why hasn’t the Keystone XL pipeline been built from Canada down to the Gulf Coast US refineries? Oh, that’s right – the green gaia religionists don’t like gas – the want renewable non-CO2 unicorn farts to run your automobile. Pipelines need to be permitted – and barry’s administration and leftards hated pipelines of any sort. Thus, we get supply constraints that are based on leftards love of solar and wind. Next, all pipelines and their rate of return are regulated by the FERC. More government love for the private sector. Any place in the world that has the government green gaia religionists designing our electrical and gas supply system, you are going to get constraints. You might google the American gas crisis of the 70s which was fixed when Reagan deregulated the price of gasoline.
If you leftards were serious about CO2 emissions we would be building nukes – not tearing then down according to the GND – and fracking on US lands and exporting LNG to China and Europe. Instead the Chinese and Euros are building new heavy CO2 coal plants apace. We aren’t. -
We can’t just drill our way to lower gas prices.... dummyWestlinnDuck said:Why hasn’t the Keystone XL pipeline been built from Canada down to the Gulf Coast US refineries? Oh, that’s right – the green gaia religionists don’t like gas – the want renewable non-CO2 unicorn farts to run your automobile. Pipelines need to be permitted – and barry’s administration and leftards hated pipelines of any sort. Thus, we get supply constraints that are based on leftards love of solar and wind. Next, all pipelines and their rate of return are regulated by the FERC. More government love for the private sector. Any place in the world that has the government green gaia religionists designing our electrical and gas supply system, you are going to get constraints. You might google the American gas crisis of the 70s which was fixed when Reagan deregulated the price of gasoline.
If you leftards were serious about CO2 emissions we would be building nukes – not tearing then down according to the GND – and fracking on US lands and exporting LNG to China and Europe. Instead the Chinese and Euros are building new heavy CO2 coal plants apace. We aren’t. -
The past three NY6 Husky Bowl games have left my septic field looking like this:PurpleThrobber said:
My clean water comes from a well on my own property. My shit goes into a septic field.2001400ex said:
I'm not sure that answers the question.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber is old and rich. Writing a check isn't a problem.2001400ex said:
Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.2001400ex said:
That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.PurpleThrobber said:The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.
There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.
That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.
The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.
Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
I was trying to help you poors.
I'm fairly certain a good chunk of my gas tax goes to pay for that interstate system.
Next question?
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I feel you, Holmes.TurdBuffer said:
The past three NY6 Husky Bowl games have left my septic field looking like this:PurpleThrobber said:
My clean water comes from a well on my own property. My shit goes into a septic field.2001400ex said:
I'm not sure that answers the question.PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber is old and rich. Writing a check isn't a problem.2001400ex said:
Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.2001400ex said:
That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.PurpleThrobber said:The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.
There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.
That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.
The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.
Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
I was trying to help you poors.
I'm fairly certain a good chunk of my gas tax goes to pay for that interstate system.
Next question?
Always build at the TOP of the hill
#gravity.
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I blame the @swaye sWestlinnDuck said:Why hasn’t the Keystone XL pipeline been built from Canada down to the Gulf Coast US refineries? Oh, that’s right – the green gaia religionists don’t like gas – the want renewable non-CO2 unicorn farts to run your automobile. Pipelines need to be permitted – and barry’s administration and leftards hated pipelines of any sort. Thus, we get supply constraints that are based on leftards love of solar and wind. Next, all pipelines and their rate of return are regulated by the FERC. More government love for the private sector. Any place in the world that has the government green gaia religionists designing our electrical and gas supply system, you are going to get constraints. You might google the American gas crisis of the 70s which was fixed when Reagan deregulated the price of gasoline.
If you leftards were serious about CO2 emissions we would be building nukes – not tearing then down according to the GND – and fracking on US lands and exporting LNG to China and Europe. Instead the Chinese and Euros are building new heavy CO2 coal plants apace. We aren’t.
There is some CRAZY ass technology out there for fracking, release the oil from the subsoil I've seen one where they inject high voltage into a gel conductor that is pumped downhole. Increases production on old dead stripper wells to as much as 10X previous bbls produced. On 'normal' new wells, the output increases somewhere between 3 to 5x.
Now, the greenies will argue that causes earthquakes - but who the fuck really cares whether North Dakota and Eastern Montana get shook. There ain't shit there.
Now, there may be some value in shaking the shit out of Long Beach oilfields and causing SoCal to fall in the ocean.
