The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.
There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.
That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.
That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.
It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.
The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.
Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?
Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
The Throbber is old and rich. Writing a check isn't a problem.
The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.
There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.
That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.
That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.
It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.
The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.
Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?
Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
The Throbber is old and rich. Writing a check isn't a problem.
I was trying to help you poors.
I'm not sure that answers the question.
My clean water comes from a well on my own property. My shit goes into a septic field.
I'm fairly certain a good chunk of my gas tax goes to pay for that interstate system.
The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.
There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.
That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.
That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.
It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.
The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.
Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?
Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
No, the roads are shit and the water has heavy metals in it.
The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.
There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.
That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.
That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.
It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.
The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.
Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?
Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
The Throbber is old and rich. Writing a check isn't a problem.
I was trying to help you poors.
I'm not sure that answers the question.
My clean water comes from a well on my own property. My shit goes into a septic field.
I'm fairly certain a good chunk of my gas tax goes to pay for that interstate system.
Next question?
You still didn't answer the question. Why do you hate investment in technology?
The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.
There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.
That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.
That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.
It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.
The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.
Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?
Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
The Throbber is old and rich. Writing a check isn't a problem.
I was trying to help you poors.
I'm not sure that answers the question.
My clean water comes from a well on my own property. My shit goes into a septic field.
I'm fairly certain a good chunk of my gas tax goes to pay for that interstate system.
Next question?
You still didn't answer the question. Why do you hate investment in technology?
The Throbber has gone on record many times saying the government needs to fast forward building out 9G-like networks much as they did with the interstate freeway system in the 50's and 60's. Run it like a utility with rate commissions and access to the more rural areas that companies like Comcast won't build out.
Because you have no remembrance is a you problem, not a me problem.
Again, the Throbber is old and rich and pays through the nose for high speed internet access at the G&R compound. So, again, The throbber is looking out for the poors.
The article is not misleading. We have under invested in natural gas pipelines in favor of wind and solar. Also taking base load coal off line has created to the base load problem. What is outright ignorance is trying to defend what happened. What then moves into outright stupidity is doubling or tripling down on the fantasy that we can take all baseline production off line.
The article is not misleading. We have under invested in natural gas pipelines in favor of wind and solar. Also taking base load coal off line has created to the base load problem. What is outright ignorance is trying to defend what happened. What then moves into outright stupidity is doubling or tripling down on the fantasy that we can take all baseline production off line.
Investment in natural gas infrastructure has little to do with investments in electricity generation. We (?) invest through rates. Natural gas and electricity rate schedules are set independently of one another. If a natural gas LDC like Xcel needed to upgrade it's natural gas distribution system then it would raise it's T&D portion of it's natural gas rate schedule.
I'm not in favor of shutting down thermal baseload if its economic. I'm also not a fan of the GND but posting articles like this that try to pin this event ,which was local natural gas supply outage issue, on something totally unrelated like renewables investment is retarded. If there was a power outage caused by the intermittency of renewables then it would be a different story.
The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.
There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.
That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.
That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.
It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.
The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.
Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?
Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
The Throbber is old and rich. Writing a check isn't a problem.
I was trying to help you poors.
I'm not sure that answers the question.
My clean water comes from a well on my own property. My shit goes into a septic field.
I'm fairly certain a good chunk of my gas tax goes to pay for that interstate system.
Next question?
Umm, the shit's supposed to go in the tank & piss goes into the field.
Are your solids not so solid? And does your yard smell poopy, by chance?
We had septic in the neighborhood until I was about 12, then the development petitioned the county to put in sewers. I can't believe not one kid died climbing down into the sewer trenches after dark with dim, old-school Eveready flashlights. It's a bloody miracle.
The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.
There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.
That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.
That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.
It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.
The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.
Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?
Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
The Throbber is old and rich. Writing a check isn't a problem.
I was trying to help you poors.
I'm not sure that answers the question.
My clean water comes from a well on my own property. My shit goes into a septic field.
I'm fairly certain a good chunk of my gas tax goes to pay for that interstate system.
Next question?
Umm, the shit's supposed to go in the tank & piss goes into the field.
Are your solids not so solid? And does your yard smell poopy, by chance?
The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.
There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.
That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.
That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.
It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.
The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.
Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?
Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
The Throbber is old and rich. Writing a check isn't a problem.
I was trying to help you poors.
I'm not sure that answers the question.
My clean water comes from a well on my own property. My shit goes into a septic field.
I'm fairly certain a good chunk of my gas tax goes to pay for that interstate system.
Next question?
Umm, the shit's supposed to go in the tank & piss goes into the field.
Are your solids not so solid? And does your yard smell poopy, by chance?
The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.
There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.
That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.
That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.
It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.
The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.
Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?
Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
The Throbber is old and rich. Writing a check isn't a problem.
I was trying to help you poors.
I'm not sure that answers the question.
My clean water comes from a well on my own property. My shit goes into a septic field.
I'm fairly certain a good chunk of my gas tax goes to pay for that interstate system.
Next question?
Umm, the shit's supposed to go in the tank & piss goes into the field.
Are your solids not so solid? And does your yard smell poopy, by chance?
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I'm fairly certain a good chunk of my gas tax goes to pay for that interstate system.
Next question?
Because you have no remembrance is a you problem, not a me problem.
Again, the Throbber is old and rich and pays through the nose for high speed internet access at the G&R compound. So, again, The throbber is looking out for the poors.
Because the throbber is cool like dat.
Horse trails.
I'm not in favor of shutting down thermal baseload if its economic. I'm also not a fan of the GND but posting articles like this that try to pin this event ,which was local natural gas supply outage issue, on something totally unrelated like renewables investment is retarded. If there was a power outage caused by the intermittency of renewables then it would be a different story.
Are your solids not so solid? And does your yard smell poopy, by chance?
Just sayin. HTH.
yeah -that's pretty well the setup.
Septic superiority guy weighs in!!!