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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    jecornel said:

    You will be shot for religious apostasy. Killing trees and burning wood to release CO2 will be verboten.

    If I like my wood I can’t keep it?
    Hell no!! Smoke from a wood fire pollutes the atmosphere. You crazy bro?

    You can take my wood from my cold dead hand!!


    Also, what will we do with all the horse poop?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,602 Standard Supporter

    Can we just burn wood? Because people will be burning wood.

    I burn wood. Works great!
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,602 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    Can we just burn wood? Because people will be burning wood.

    I burn wood. Works great!
    If liberal Bullshit was energy the supply is unlimited.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.

    There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.

    That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.

    That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Member Posts: 1,527
    Misleading article. The Xcel brownouts in Minnesota and Colorado had nothing to do with "the wind not blowing". It looks like it's a pressure issue on their natural gas supply system that only impacted customers with natural gas primary heat.

    http://m.startribune.com/xcel-also-had-natural-gas-transmission-issue-in-colorado/505798472/
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,545 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.

    There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.

    That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.

    That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
    The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.

    It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.

    The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.

    There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.

    That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.

    That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
    The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.

    It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.

    The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.

    Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?

    Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,602 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.

    There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.

    That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.

    That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
    The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.

    It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.

    The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.

    Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?

    Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
    Where did the government get the money invested?

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.

    There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.

    That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.

    That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
    The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.

    It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.

    The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.

    Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?

    Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
    Where did the government get the money invested?

    Not from you.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,545 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    The problem with solar and wind is storage. Production is fine - but it gets sold out onto the grid during non-peak usage times - so power produced is never going to bring top dollar on the market. In the case of residences or office buildings, the power generated needs to be stored for later use at the same site.

    There's some technology coming down the pike for static storage facilities where the batteries are similar to, like, server racks. For a single family home, the racks approximately 10 feet high by maybe 3 feet square. My understanding is that stores about 40 hours of typical use.

    That's all well and good. But if you install solar on your home, what you actually do is get credits for the electricity you provide above your current usage. So at night you pull off the grid.

    That being said, better battery technology is necessary for any of this to work.
    The Throbber already has solar at the guns and religion compound and gets those credits - so go read again about power being sold onto the grid. Works great selling out into the grid - at non peak prices.

    It doesn't do jack when the power goes out - cost prohibitive to install the old technology battery backups.

    The newer lithium based stuff will be helpful. Still super expensive unless the greenies want to include that in their tax credit package.

    Do you like the interstate you drive on? Do you like the clean water you drink?

    Why do you enjoy those investments made by the government. But hate government investment in technology?
    The Throbber is old and rich. Writing a check isn't a problem.

    I was trying to help you poors.