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Trump Ordered Officials to Give Jared Kushner a Security Clearance

insinceredawg
insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
What a surprise. Trump lied again.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/us/politics/jared-kushner-security-clearance.html

President Trump ordered his chief of staff to grant his son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, a top-secret security clearance last year, overruling concerns flagged by intelligence officials and the White House’s top lawyer, four people briefed on the matter said.

Mr. Trump’s decision in May so troubled senior administration officials that at least one, the White House chief of staff at the time, John F. Kelly, wrote a contemporaneous internal memo about how he had been “ordered” to give Mr. Kushner the top-secret clearance.

The White House counsel at the time, Donald F. McGahn II, also wrote an internal memo outlining the concerns that had been raised about Mr. Kushner — including by the C.I.A. — and how Mr. McGahn had recommended that he not be given a top-secret clearance.

The disclosure of the memos contradicts statements made by the president, who told The New York Times in January in an Oval Office interview that he had no role in his son-in-law receiving his clearance.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,725 Standard Supporter
    Thud. Nothing there.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Sledog said:

    Thud. Nothing there.

    People trump takes at their word
    KJU (R.I.P. Otto Warmbier)
    Putin (R.I.P. magnitsky)
    MBS (R.I.P. Khashoggi)

    People trump disputes
    CIA
    Fbi
    Dan Coats his DNI
    The national security council he appointed
    All of of the US’ historical allies.

    Good thing fat boy overrode the NSA process and singulary approved kushner’s security clearance. How else would we have the trump Mideast peace plan! Thanks t!
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    Sledog said:

    Thud. Nothing there.

    Remember when the right used to care about national security? But her emails!!!
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,725 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Thud. Nothing there.

    Remember when the right used to care about national security? But her emails!!!
    Remember when the Clintons didn't get security clearance for anybody? Where were you then. Read the article again.

    “In 2018, White House and security clearance officials affirmed that Mr. Kushner’s security clearance was handled in the regular process with no pressure from anyone. That was conveyed to the media at the time, and new stories, if accurate, do not change what was affirmed at the time.”

    The decision last year to grant Mr. Kushner a top-secret clearance upgraded him from earlier temporary and interim status. He never received a higher-level designation that would have given him access to need-to-know intelligence known as sensitive compartmented information.
  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    Sledog is the type of person trump was talking about when he said he could shoot someone in the street and his people would still love him
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    Sledog is the type of person trump was talking about when he said he could shoot someone in the street and his people would still love him

    All the Trumptards on this board is exactly why Trump says he loves the uneducated.
  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441

    Sledog is the type of person trump was talking about when he said he could shoot someone in the street and his people would still love him

    All the Trumptards on this board is exactly why Trump says he loves the uneducated.
    You realize this is a college football message board and therefore entirely made up of educated folk

    this is no question the best joke i've seen on here
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Sledog is the type of person trump was talking about when he said he could shoot someone in the street and his people would still love him

    All the Trumptards on this board is exactly why Trump says he loves the uneducated.
    You realize this is a college football message board and therefore entirely made up of educated folk

    That's why it's Shocking that people still say that cutting taxes on corporations and the wealthy increases tax revenues. For example.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club
    edited March 2019
    Imagine caring about this.

    Imagine thinking this is news.

    Imagine chearing as Obama was repeatedly given more and more executive power.

    Imagine understanding the president may give clearance to whomever he wants.

    Imagine HondoBros unite!


    #clockworkshills #HondoBros #imaginecaring #circlejerk


  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    So the president ignores the recommendation from nsa staff not to give Kushner a clearance because he’s a risk but trump does anyway for his son in law and it’s not newsworthy? I look forward to hearing that argument when trump staff argue the case in front of congress.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    Imagine caring about this.

    Imagine thinking this is news.

    Imagine chearing as Obama was repeatedly given more and more executive power.

    Imagine understanding the president may give clearance to whomever he wants.

    Imagine HondoBros unite!


    #clockworkshills #HondoBros #imaginecaring #circlejerk


    You sound like you are still butthurt over Obama.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    Imagine caring about this.

    Imagine thinking this is news.

    Imagine chearing as Obama was repeatedly given more and more executive power.

    Imagine understanding the president may give clearance to whomever he wants.

    Imagine HondoBros unite!


    #clockworkshills #HondoBros #imaginecaring #circlejerk


    You sound like you are still butthurt over Obama.
    You sound like your still lying about taxes
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,725 Standard Supporter

    Sledog is the type of person trump was talking about when he said he could shoot someone in the street and his people would still love him

    Yeah but you blew Clinton more than Monica.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/14/bill-clinton-white-house-had-security-clearance-ba/
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    “In 2018, White House and security clearance officials affirmed that Mr. Kushner’s security clearance was handled in the regular process with no pressure from anyone. That was conveyed to the media at the time, and new stories, if accurate, do not change what was affirmed at the time.”

    The decision last year to grant Mr. Kushner a top-secret clearance upgraded him from earlier temporary and interim status. He never received a higher-level designation that would have given him access to need-to-know intelligence known as sensitive compartmented information.

    @insinceredawg can you tell us in your own words why this is an issue?
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    “In 2018, White House and security clearance officials affirmed that Mr. Kushner’s security clearance was handled in the regular process with no pressure from anyone. That was conveyed to the media at the time, and new stories, if accurate, do not change what was affirmed at the time.”

    The decision last year to grant Mr. Kushner a top-secret clearance upgraded him from earlier temporary and interim status. He never received a higher-level designation that would have given him access to need-to-know intelligence known as sensitive compartmented information.

    @insinceredawg can you tell us in your own words why this is an issue?

    The first half of your post is a quote from Kushner's lawyer.

    If Trump's own Chief of Staff and WH lawyer along with the CIA were concerned with Kushner receiving security clearance (even if it's not the highest level designation) than it is an issue. If it wasn't an issue, why would Trump have to go out of his way to demand he receive it and then lie about it?

    How far is Trump's dick up all your asses to continue to dismiss every story that comes out about him?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,725 Standard Supporter

    “In 2018, White House and security clearance officials affirmed that Mr. Kushner’s security clearance was handled in the regular process with no pressure from anyone. That was conveyed to the media at the time, and new stories, if accurate, do not change what was affirmed at the time.”

    The decision last year to grant Mr. Kushner a top-secret clearance upgraded him from earlier temporary and interim status. He never received a higher-level designation that would have given him access to need-to-know intelligence known as sensitive compartmented information.

    @insinceredawg can you tell us in your own words why this is an issue?

    The first half of your post is a quote from Kushner's lawyer.

    If Trump's own Chief of Staff and WH lawyer along with the CIA were concerned with Kushner receiving security clearance (even if it's not the highest level designation) than it is an issue. If it wasn't an issue, why would Trump have to go out of his way to demand he receive it and then lie about it?

    How far is Trump's dick up all your asses to continue to dismiss every story that comes out about him?
    He already had a clearance.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    “In 2018, White House and security clearance officials affirmed that Mr. Kushner’s security clearance was handled in the regular process with no pressure from anyone. That was conveyed to the media at the time, and new stories, if accurate, do not change what was affirmed at the time.”

    The decision last year to grant Mr. Kushner a top-secret clearance upgraded him from earlier temporary and interim status. He never received a higher-level designation that would have given him access to need-to-know intelligence known as sensitive compartmented information.

    @insinceredawg can you tell us in your own words why this is an issue?

    Show me on the doll where it hurts Race.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club

    “In 2018, White House and security clearance officials affirmed that Mr. Kushner’s security clearance was handled in the regular process with no pressure from anyone. That was conveyed to the media at the time, and new stories, if accurate, do not change what was affirmed at the time.”

    The decision last year to grant Mr. Kushner a top-secret clearance upgraded him from earlier temporary and interim status. He never received a higher-level designation that would have given him access to need-to-know intelligence known as sensitive compartmented information.

    @insinceredawg can you tell us in your own words why this is an issue?

    The first half of your post is a quote from Kushner's lawyer.

    If Trump's own Chief of Staff and WH lawyer along with the CIA were concerned with Kushner receiving security clearance (even if it's not the highest level designation) than it is an issue. If it wasn't an issue, why would Trump have to go out of his way to demand he receive it and then lie about it?

    How far is Trump's dick up all your asses to continue to dismiss every story that comes out about him?
    I asked you what I should be concerned about

    I didn't think you could answer

    Why is Kushner a security risk?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    “In 2018, White House and security clearance officials affirmed that Mr. Kushner’s security clearance was handled in the regular process with no pressure from anyone. That was conveyed to the media at the time, and new stories, if accurate, do not change what was affirmed at the time.”

    The decision last year to grant Mr. Kushner a top-secret clearance upgraded him from earlier temporary and interim status. He never received a higher-level designation that would have given him access to need-to-know intelligence known as sensitive compartmented information.

    @insinceredawg can you tell us in your own words why this is an issue?

    Show me on the doll where it hurts Race.
    Another great answer. Thanks
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    edited March 2019
    four people briefed on the matter said. - The NY Times sources anon

    Yet Trump and others are on the record using their name on it

    Plus the article has nothing on what the issue with Kushner is other than he is a son in law which I don't think is illegal

    So we have the Times and the CIA and @insinceredawg who are all known liars about Trump and I should be outraged?

    Get the CIA's dick out of your mouth you government stooge @insinceredawg
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    “In 2018, White House and security clearance officials affirmed that Mr. Kushner’s security clearance was handled in the regular process with no pressure from anyone. That was conveyed to the media at the time, and new stories, if accurate, do not change what was affirmed at the time.”

    The decision last year to grant Mr. Kushner a top-secret clearance upgraded him from earlier temporary and interim status. He never received a higher-level designation that would have given him access to need-to-know intelligence known as sensitive compartmented information.

    @insinceredawg can you tell us in your own words why this is an issue?

    The first half of your post is a quote from Kushner's lawyer.

    If Trump's own Chief of Staff and WH lawyer along with the CIA were concerned with Kushner receiving security clearance (even if it's not the highest level designation) than it is an issue. If it wasn't an issue, why would Trump have to go out of his way to demand he receive it and then lie about it?

    How far is Trump's dick up all your asses to continue to dismiss every story that comes out about him?
    I asked you what I should be concerned about

    I didn't think you could answer

    Why is Kushner a security risk?
    Didn’t he tell Mohammed bin Salman the names of “disloyal” Saudis from intel briefings of others and then they were arrested, tortured, and extorted? Or am I remembering incorrectly.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    edited March 2019

    “In 2018, White House and security clearance officials affirmed that Mr. Kushner’s security clearance was handled in the regular process with no pressure from anyone. That was conveyed to the media at the time, and new stories, if accurate, do not change what was affirmed at the time.”

    The decision last year to grant Mr. Kushner a top-secret clearance upgraded him from earlier temporary and interim status. He never received a higher-level designation that would have given him access to need-to-know intelligence known as sensitive compartmented information.

    @insinceredawg can you tell us in your own words why this is an issue?

    The first half of your post is a quote from Kushner's lawyer.

    If Trump's own Chief of Staff and WH lawyer along with the CIA were concerned with Kushner receiving security clearance (even if it's not the highest level designation) than it is an issue. If it wasn't an issue, why would Trump have to go out of his way to demand he receive it and then lie about it?

    How far is Trump's dick up all your asses to continue to dismiss every story that comes out about him?
    I asked you what I should be concerned about

    I didn't think you could answer

    Why is Kushner a security risk?
    Didn’t he tell Mohammed bin Salman the names of “disloyal” Saudis from intel briefings of others and then they were arrested, tortured, and extorted? Or am I remembering incorrectly.
    Why not find your source and we can all remember together?

    Edit to say that story would still be on the front page if true
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    “In 2018, White House and security clearance officials affirmed that Mr. Kushner’s security clearance was handled in the regular process with no pressure from anyone. That was conveyed to the media at the time, and new stories, if accurate, do not change what was affirmed at the time.”

    The decision last year to grant Mr. Kushner a top-secret clearance upgraded him from earlier temporary and interim status. He never received a higher-level designation that would have given him access to need-to-know intelligence known as sensitive compartmented information.

    @insinceredawg can you tell us in your own words why this is an issue?

    The first half of your post is a quote from Kushner's lawyer.

    If Trump's own Chief of Staff and WH lawyer along with the CIA were concerned with Kushner receiving security clearance (even if it's not the highest level designation) than it is an issue. If it wasn't an issue, why would Trump have to go out of his way to demand he receive it and then lie about it?

    How far is Trump's dick up all your asses to continue to dismiss every story that comes out about him?
    I asked you what I should be concerned about

    I didn't think you could answer

    Why is Kushner a security risk?
    Go ask the CIA.

    Let me ask you, in your own opinion why do you think Kushner should have security clearance?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club

    “In 2018, White House and security clearance officials affirmed that Mr. Kushner’s security clearance was handled in the regular process with no pressure from anyone. That was conveyed to the media at the time, and new stories, if accurate, do not change what was affirmed at the time.”

    The decision last year to grant Mr. Kushner a top-secret clearance upgraded him from earlier temporary and interim status. He never received a higher-level designation that would have given him access to need-to-know intelligence known as sensitive compartmented information.

    @insinceredawg can you tell us in your own words why this is an issue?

    The first half of your post is a quote from Kushner's lawyer.

    If Trump's own Chief of Staff and WH lawyer along with the CIA were concerned with Kushner receiving security clearance (even if it's not the highest level designation) than it is an issue. If it wasn't an issue, why would Trump have to go out of his way to demand he receive it and then lie about it?

    How far is Trump's dick up all your asses to continue to dismiss every story that comes out about him?
    I asked you what I should be concerned about

    I didn't think you could answer

    Why is Kushner a security risk?
    Go ask the CIA.

    Let me ask you, in your own opinion why do you think Kushner should have security clearance?
    Because POTUS wants him to. As the CIC that's his prerogative

    So all you have is an anonymous CIA source? No reason? This is the same bullshit the Times has been peddling since Trump won
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    https://theintercept.com/2018/03/21/jared-kushner-saudi-crown-prince-mohammed-bin-salman/

    What exactly Kushner and the Saudi royal talked about in Riyadh may be known only to them, but after the meeting, Crown Prince Mohammed told confidants that Kushner had discussed the names of Saudis disloyal to the crown prince, according to three sources who have been in contact with members of the Saudi and Emirati royal families since the crackdown. Kushner, through his attorney’s spokesperson, denies having done so.

    On November 4, a week after Kushner returned to the U.S., the crown prince, known in official Washington by his initials MBS, launched what he called an anti-corruption crackdown. The Saudi government arrested dozens of members of the Saudi royal family and imprisoned them in the Ritz-Carlton Riyadh, which was first reported in English by The Intercept. The Saudi figures named in the President’s Daily Brief were among those rounded up; at least one was reportedly tortured.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    Imagine spending your morning vehemently defending Jared Kushner of all people
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Trump's serial nepotism is troubling. The way these things blow up, it's probably become a feedback loop, reinforcing Trump that these are the only people he can trust.

    Once again, this national security kerfuffle amuses me, as Trump has Dems so twisted up that they reflexively BACK the formerly evil CIA, NSA, FBI, NRO and any other sinister 3 letter agency you can think of.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    Vehemently?

    Sorry that I asked you guys to back up your assertions because I knew you couldn't

    Thanks for more mindless speculation from the Intercept though

    Imagine you defending the CIA

  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    Vehemently?

    Sorry that I asked you guys to back up your assertions because I knew you couldn't

    Thanks for more mindless speculation from the Intercept though

    Imagine you defending the CIA

    All reporting I don’t like is mindless speculation