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Soul Train BOTBs Elite 8 (1980s to early 90s) - #1 Michael Jackson vs #2 Prince

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Soul Train BOTBs Elite 8 (1980s to early 90s) - #1 Michael Jackson vs #2 Prince 28 votes

#1 Michael Jackson
39%
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#2 Prince
60%
DerekJohnsonCFetters_Nacho_LoverSwayeHillsboroDuckMad_SonDennis_DeYoungalumni94chuckPurpleThrobberGrundleStiltzkinLebamDawgDoog_de_JourVagina69LaocoönYellowSnowEl_KGilbystaint 17 votes
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    #2 Prince
    "You hated Michael and Prince all the way ever since, if their beats were made of meat, it would have to be mince!" - LL Cool J.
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  • 89ute
    89ute Member Posts: 2,486
    #1 Michael Jackson
    I love Prince, but come on, Michael was a world impact. Like Yuge.
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  • Vagina69
    Vagina69 Member Posts: 16
    #2 Prince
    You’d have to be a colossal faggot to pick Michael Jackson over Prince.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    #2 Prince
    I'm not a MJ hater, but MJ had Off the Wall - which was a bunch of great disco jams with the help of Rod Temperton from Heatwave and our own QJ.

    Rock with You was one of the most underrated jams until fucking Justin Timberlake copied it and then it blew again.

    Okay, then he has Thriller. Thriller is obviously a really good record... so, no issues there.

    Okay - what else?

    Bad? Errrr... Smooth Criminal is a good song, The Way you Make me Feel is good, Leave me Alone is pretty fucking good, but Dirty Diana is fucking retarded. Bad is embarrassing. Largely by this point he'd reached self-parody with his 'chamon' and grunts and shit. You can't listen to one of these songs with out him grunting all over it... what the fuck?

    The whole 'I'm actually tough' thing was ill-conceived to say the least.

    This song is basically a little 60s Bubblegum pop number that is closer to Spanky and Our Gang or something than a number where you should be hanging out and pelvic thrusting with dancers dressed up to look like crips.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzZ_urpj4As

    The song reminds me of this type of shit (which I love)...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNg7arOQoVA

    Black or White? I mean - Jack and Diane sung by Michael Jackson with a really milquetoast message.

    What else? Anything?

    So, one great disco record - probably the best disco record ever (Saturday Night Fever soundtrack is obviously good too, but so many songs by so many different artists makes it complicated) and maybe the best pop record ever (or at least in the top tier)... but then an over the top, self-parody record with some decent moments whimpering into bland crap in the 90s like Jam...

    I chronicled Prince's career earlier... he had a peak CLOSE to MJs, but way more innovation and a career peak that spanned 6-7 records, not 3, 1 of which was kind of embarrassing even at the time.
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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    #2 Prince
    Really tough call here. On one hand, everything DDY said is true. The self parody is a major plot point about Michael.

    OTOH everything DDY said is true. MJ owns the GOAT album in two genres. He's a legendary entertainer who captivated audiences across races, genres, and generations. He's the icon of all icons.

    I voted Prince because I enjoy him more, but Michael is a very worthwhile choice here.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    #1 Michael Jackson
    Mike is innocent.

    #FreeMike
    #BringBackOurLittleBoys
    #WhackForJack
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,317 Founders Club
    #2 Prince
    Michael Jackson is the greater cultural icon. But he only had 1 truly great album and a couple of pretty good ones. Prince simply had more great songs than MJ and by a significant margin. Record sales are only one aspect of greatness. Thriller sold a ton of copies but so did the Eagles Greatest Hits.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    #1 Michael Jackson
    This is pure craziness again
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,683 Swaye's Wigwam
    #2 Prince
    That's ignorant. You're all being ignorant.

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  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,276 Founders Club
    #1 Michael Jackson
    God I hope he's not a kid toucher
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  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    #1 Michael Jackson



    Kiss the gold, bitches.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,105 Standard Supporter
    #2 Prince
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    I'm not a MJ hater, but MJ had Off the Wall - which was a bunch of great disco jams with the help of Rod Temperton from Heatwave and our own QJ.

    Rock with You was one of the most underrated jams until fucking Justin Timberlake copied it and then it blew again.

    Okay, then he has Thriller. Thriller is obviously a really good record... so, no issues there.

    Okay - what else?

    Bad? Errrr... Smooth Criminal is a good song, The Way you Make me Feel is good, Leave me Alone is pretty fucking good, but Dirty Diana is fucking retarded. Bad is embarrassing. Largely by this point he'd reached self-parody with his 'chamon' and grunts and shit. You can't listen to one of these songs with out him grunting all over it... what the fuck?

    The whole 'I'm actually tough' thing was ill-conceived to say the least.

    This song is basically a little 60s Bubblegum pop number that is closer to Spanky and Our Gang or something than a number where you should be hanging out and pelvic thrusting with dancers dressed up to look like crips.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzZ_urpj4As

    The song reminds me of this type of shit (which I love)...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNg7arOQoVA

    Black or White? I mean - Jack and Diane sung by Michael Jackson with a really milquetoast message.

    What else? Anything?

    So, one great disco record - probably the best disco record ever (Saturday Night Fever soundtrack is obviously good too, but so many songs by so many different artists makes it complicated) and maybe the best pop record ever (or at least in the top tier)... but then an over the top, self-parody record with some decent moments whimpering into bland crap in the 90s like Jam...

    I chronicled Prince's career earlier... he had a peak CLOSE to MJs, but way more innovation and a career peak that spanned 6-7 records, not 3, 1 of which was kind of embarrassing even at the time.

    You know, if you had tits I might be inclined to fuck you.

    Brb - need to jo after reading that.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,105 Standard Supporter
    #2 Prince
    89ute said:

    I love Prince, but come on, Michael was a world impact. Like Yuge.


    Like the Osmonds!!
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,317 Founders Club
    #2 Prince
    Pole closed. Prince with the 15-6 smack down.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,317 Founders Club
    #2 Prince
    Quite plagarisms of my shit @Fire_Marshall_Bill

    @RaceBannon @BleachedAnusDawg the people have spoken
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,084 Founders Club
    Kids today

    No class and no taste
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,317 Founders Club
    #2 Prince
    RaceBannon said:

    Kids today

    No class and no taste

    I'm actually older than you in spirit. I was listening to Frank Sinatra last night on technology which was obsolete by the mid 80s.
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,293 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2023
    #1 Michael Jackson
    YellowSnow said:

    Quite plagarisms of my shit @Fire_Marshall_Bill

    @RaceBannon @BleachedAnusDawg the people have spoken

    Album sales are not even close. MJ >>>>>>>>>>> Prince.

    He worked smarter, not harder. The King of Pop.
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,293 Standard Supporter
    #1 Michael Jackson
    I can't believe Yella is making me defend this pedo.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,084 Founders Club
    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Kids today

    No class and no taste

    I'm actually older than you in spirit. I was listening to Frank Sinatra last night on technology which was obsolete by the mid 80s.
    We kids were watching the Beatles on Ed Sullivan when our mom started talking about Frank

    We tell her we won't still be listening to the Beatles when we're old like her

    And I don't

    Csb
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,317 Founders Club
    #2 Prince
    RaceBannon said:

    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Kids today

    No class and no taste

    I'm actually older than you in spirit. I was listening to Frank Sinatra last night on technology which was obsolete by the mid 80s.
    We kids were watching the Beatles on Ed Sullivan when our mom started talking about Frank

    We tell her we won't still be listening to the Beatles when we're old like her

    And I don't

    Csb
    Frankie was still in his prime in Feb 1964.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,084 Founders Club
    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Kids today

    No class and no taste

    I'm actually older than you in spirit. I was listening to Frank Sinatra last night on technology which was obsolete by the mid 80s.
    We kids were watching the Beatles on Ed Sullivan when our mom started talking about Frank

    We tell her we won't still be listening to the Beatles when we're old like her

    And I don't

    Csb
    Frankie was still in his prime in Feb 1964.
    Not really

    He was a teen idol to my mom

    Not a lounge lizard
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,317 Founders Club
    #2 Prince
    RaceBannon said:

    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Kids today

    No class and no taste

    I'm actually older than you in spirit. I was listening to Frank Sinatra last night on technology which was obsolete by the mid 80s.
    We kids were watching the Beatles on Ed Sullivan when our mom started talking about Frank

    We tell her we won't still be listening to the Beatles when we're old like her

    And I don't

    Csb
    Frankie was still in his prime in Feb 1964.
    Not really

    He was a teen idol to my mom

    Not a lounge lizard
    Strangers in the Night topped the charts in 1966. A remarkable achievement considering the competition.
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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    If you never saw Prince live, you was robbed.

    Best fucking live show I ever saw, and I wasn't even a fan at the time, but went along with my roommate who was a Prince nut.

    Imagine every Prince song with a full horn section, Sheila E on drums, two hot bitches singing backup and Prince playing a screaming guitar almost like Hendrix.

    Un-Fucking-Believable show.
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