I'll take a short break from insulting everyone in sight and ask a legit question
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thread by a dude with experience with AIPAC
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So you quoted a guy that admits to being bought for a cool 5k...MariotaTheGawd said:
Is that all it takes to buy support these days? If so, I’m in the wrong profession. -
https://www.citybeat.com/news/news-feature/blog/21020927/he-launched-his-political-career-in-cincinnati-now-hes-fighting-for-health-care-access-while-battling-als
What I thought. Desperate times, desperate measures. Outlandish claims. You would think that after fighting for healthcare access he would have remembered to sign up. -
LOL
Here’s the data on the campaign you worked on - Victoria Wulsin. She raised over $1 million in campaign contributions. A $5,000 campaign contribution from a pro-Israel donor did not make or break her campaign. This thread is a LIE
(link: https://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary?cycle=2006&id=OH02) opensecrets.org/races/summary?… -
Can white people criticize Blacks?
We're trying to play by your rules
If you support the people who want to slaughter Jews you might be anti semitic
If you belong to a semitic religion that wants to slaughter Jews you are the issue -
You can criticize AIPAC all you like, but when you start claiming people only support Israel because of all the money they get from the Jews you've crossed the line.MariotaTheGawd said:I'm curious about what the naysayers would consider to be an allowable level of criticism of AIPAC as a lobbying entity specifically and Israel in general as a nation-state. Money talks in the United States Congress, so if it's anti-Semitic to talk about the money that they spend to influence Congress because of historical caricatures about Jews and money, how does one even broach the topic? AIPAC is the largest foreign policy-related donor to congress at $3.5 million in 2018 (UNICEF is next at 744k), and they also pay for members to visit Israel. Is Bernie Sanders an anti-Semite for being critical of the way Israel treats the Palestinians? Does someone need to be Jewish in order to criticize Israel's government?
I do find it interesting that the people who have such a problem with AIPAC are usually Muslim sympathizers who have no problem with the money being spent by pro-Pali outfits. Which tends to make me believe they don't really have a problem with PAC money but have a problem with Jewish PAC money.
And yes, Bernie is an anti-Semite. Bernie's god and religion is the state not Judaism. -
No. But it helps to not be Anti-Semitic while doing so. That appears to be your struggle.MariotaTheGawd said:I'm curious about what the naysayers would consider to be an allowable level of criticism of AIPAC as a lobbying entity specifically and Israel in general as a nation-state. Money talks in the United States Congress, so if it's anti-Semitic to talk about the money that they spend to influence Congress because of historical caricatures about Jews and money, how does one even broach the topic? AIPAC is the largest foreign policy-related donor to congress at $3.5 million in 2018 (UNICEF is next at 744k), and they also pay for members to visit Israel. Is Bernie Sanders an anti-Semite for being critical of the way Israel treats the Palestinians? Does someone need to be Jewish in order to criticize Israel's government?
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Didn't read. Kill yourself anyways.
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There is no pro-Palestinian lobbying outfit that even comes close to rivaling the money and influence of AIPAC moronSFGbob said:
You can criticize AIPAC all you like, but when you start claiming people only support Israel because of all the money they get from the Jews you've crossed the line.MariotaTheGawd said:I'm curious about what the naysayers would consider to be an allowable level of criticism of AIPAC as a lobbying entity specifically and Israel in general as a nation-state. Money talks in the United States Congress, so if it's anti-Semitic to talk about the money that they spend to influence Congress because of historical caricatures about Jews and money, how does one even broach the topic? AIPAC is the largest foreign policy-related donor to congress at $3.5 million in 2018 (UNICEF is next at 744k), and they also pay for members to visit Israel. Is Bernie Sanders an anti-Semite for being critical of the way Israel treats the Palestinians? Does someone need to be Jewish in order to criticize Israel's government?
I do find it interesting that the people who have such a problem with AIPAC are usually Muslim sympathizers who have no problem with the money being spent by pro-Pali outfits. Which tends to make me believe they don't really have a problem with PAC money but have a problem with Jewish PAC money.
And yes, Bernie is an anti-Semite. Bernie's god and religion is the state not Judaism. -
RaceBannon said:
Can white people criticize Blacks?
We're trying to play by your rules
If you support the people who want to slaughter Jews you might be anti semitic
If you belong to a semitic religion that wants to slaughter Jews you are the issue
The origin of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is essentially a land dispute but actually every Muslim wants to slaughter Jews because Islam. Just bigoted bullshit from Race who has never even been to Israel.
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Joobs > palistinian boobs.
Kick all the Palestinians out and let them squabble with Egypt. Shoot on sight -
Who’s the fag in your avatar?MariotaTheGawd said:I'm curious about what the naysayers would consider to be an allowable level of criticism of AIPAC as a lobbying entity specifically and Israel in general as a nation-state. Money talks in the United States Congress, so if it's anti-Semitic to talk about the money that they spend to influence Congress because of historical caricatures about Jews and money, how does one even broach the topic? AIPAC is the largest foreign policy-related donor to congress at $3.5 million in 2018 (UNICEF is next at 744k), and they also pay for members to visit Israel. Is Bernie Sanders an anti-Semite for being critical of the way Israel treats the Palestinians? Does someone need to be Jewish in order to criticize Israel's government?
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So when the Muslims supported Hitler it was because of Israel?HardlyClothed said:RaceBannon said:Can white people criticize Blacks?
We're trying to play by your rules
If you support the people who want to slaughter Jews you might be anti semitic
If you belong to a semitic religion that wants to slaughter Jews you are the issue
The origin of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is essentially a land dispute but actually every Muslim wants to slaughter Jews because Islam. Just bigoted bullshit from Race who has never even been to Israel.
Check your timeline
It is because of Islam going back centuries
If you can't even admit that then get the fuck out of here -
I'm an unrelenting Zionist until I die and IDGAF what you guys think about it.
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Palestinians walked away from their homeland in 1947 because they hated the Jews. HTH
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Support for Germany during the war wasn’t because they shared an ideology for wanting to exterminate the jews but because of French and British colonialism in the region following Sykes-Picot and British sponsorship of a Jewish state in Palestine from the Balfour declaration. Gandhi wrote friendly letters to Hitler for the same anti-colonial reasons.RaceBannon said:
So when the Muslims supported Hitler it was because of Israel?HardlyClothed said:RaceBannon said:Can white people criticize Blacks?
We're trying to play by your rules
If you support the people who want to slaughter Jews you might be anti semitic
If you belong to a semitic religion that wants to slaughter Jews you are the issue
The origin of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is essentially a land dispute but actually every Muslim wants to slaughter Jews because Islam. Just bigoted bullshit from Race who has never even been to Israel.
Check your timeline
It is because of Islam going back centuries
If you can't even admit that then get the fuck out of here
Going back centuries there were plenty of Jewish communities living peacefully side by side with Muslims throughout the Ottoman Empire.
Not surprising you believe Bibi’s false narrative about the history of the conflict. He stepped in it by claiming that the Grand Mufti of Palestine gave Hitler the idea for the holocaust. You’re not far from making the same BS claims. -
Sure.gif
The Muslims are just innocent victims and its the JEWS that are at fault
Not surprising that you believe the horrible anti Semitic propaganda you can find all over the Middle East to this day
If the Palis want a state they know how to get it. They are holding out for the one state solution
NO deal -
Maybe you can explain why the majority of the Muslim world wants to exterminate the Jews then? And have actually tried several times?HardlyClothed said:
Support for Germany during the war wasn’t because they shared an ideology for wanting to exterminate the jews but because of French and British colonialism in the region following Sykes-Picot and British sponsorship of a Jewish state in Palestine from the Balfour declaration. Gandhi wrote friendly letters to Hitler for the same anti-colonial reasons.RaceBannon said:
So when the Muslims supported Hitler it was because of Israel?HardlyClothed said:RaceBannon said:Can white people criticize Blacks?
We're trying to play by your rules
If you support the people who want to slaughter Jews you might be anti semitic
If you belong to a semitic religion that wants to slaughter Jews you are the issue
The origin of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is essentially a land dispute but actually every Muslim wants to slaughter Jews because Islam. Just bigoted bullshit from Race who has never even been to Israel.
Check your timeline
It is because of Islam going back centuries
If you can't even admit that then get the fuck out of here
Going back centuries there were plenty of Jewish communities living peacefully side by side with Muslims throughout the Ottoman Empire.
Not surprising you believe Bibi’s false narrative about the history of the conflict. He stepped in it by claiming that the Grand Mufti of Palestine gave Hitler the idea for the holocaust. You’re not far from making the same BS claims. -
You have said multiple times you want to exterminate Muslims. How are you any better?Sledog said:
Maybe you can explain why the majority of the Muslim world wants to exterminate the Jews then? And have actually tried several times?HardlyClothed said:
Support for Germany during the war wasn’t because they shared an ideology for wanting to exterminate the jews but because of French and British colonialism in the region following Sykes-Picot and British sponsorship of a Jewish state in Palestine from the Balfour declaration. Gandhi wrote friendly letters to Hitler for the same anti-colonial reasons.RaceBannon said:
So when the Muslims supported Hitler it was because of Israel?HardlyClothed said:RaceBannon said:Can white people criticize Blacks?
We're trying to play by your rules
If you support the people who want to slaughter Jews you might be anti semitic
If you belong to a semitic religion that wants to slaughter Jews you are the issue
The origin of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is essentially a land dispute but actually every Muslim wants to slaughter Jews because Islam. Just bigoted bullshit from Race who has never even been to Israel.
Check your timeline
It is because of Islam going back centuries
If you can't even admit that then get the fuck out of here
Going back centuries there were plenty of Jewish communities living peacefully side by side with Muslims throughout the Ottoman Empire.
Not surprising you believe Bibi’s false narrative about the history of the conflict. He stepped in it by claiming that the Grand Mufti of Palestine gave Hitler the idea for the holocaust. You’re not far from making the same BS claims. -
but but but
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Because there are now hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers in the West Bank there is no coherent state that the Palestinians could create. The one state solution where Palestinians enjoy equal rights in a democratic Israel is the best possible outcome.
But that would mean Palestinian self-determination and only the Israelis are allowed to have that. -
I guess they should have taken the deal decades ago
Tough shit
Palis have rights in Israel today. Try again. They also have jobs and aren't strapping TNT to their children
Amazing what a difference that makes -
Maybe you have missed all the "death to America" Mooselimb regimes out there. I don't like people that want everyone dead or converted to their religion. Here we call them enemies. There was a reason for the Crusades. HTH2001400ex said:
You have said multiple times you want to exterminate Muslims. How are you any better?Sledog said:
Maybe you can explain why the majority of the Muslim world wants to exterminate the Jews then? And have actually tried several times?HardlyClothed said:
Support for Germany during the war wasn’t because they shared an ideology for wanting to exterminate the jews but because of French and British colonialism in the region following Sykes-Picot and British sponsorship of a Jewish state in Palestine from the Balfour declaration. Gandhi wrote friendly letters to Hitler for the same anti-colonial reasons.RaceBannon said:
So when the Muslims supported Hitler it was because of Israel?HardlyClothed said:RaceBannon said:Can white people criticize Blacks?
We're trying to play by your rules
If you support the people who want to slaughter Jews you might be anti semitic
If you belong to a semitic religion that wants to slaughter Jews you are the issue
The origin of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is essentially a land dispute but actually every Muslim wants to slaughter Jews because Islam. Just bigoted bullshit from Race who has never even been to Israel.
Check your timeline
It is because of Islam going back centuries
If you can't even admit that then get the fuck out of here
Going back centuries there were plenty of Jewish communities living peacefully side by side with Muslims throughout the Ottoman Empire.
Not surprising you believe Bibi’s false narrative about the history of the conflict. He stepped in it by claiming that the Grand Mufti of Palestine gave Hitler the idea for the holocaust. You’re not far from making the same BS claims. -
They are discriminated against in their daily lives. Something you would know if you have actually been there.RaceBannon said:I guess they should have taken the deal decades ago
Tough shit
Palis have rights in Israel today. Try again. They also have jobs and aren't strapping TNT to their children
Amazing what a difference that makes
Interfaith marriages are illegal in Israel. The IDF harasses them daily.
There’s a wave of settler violence against Palestinians in the West Bank going on right now. The nation state law passed last summer codifies the superior status of Jews in Israel.
You have a vision of Israel that is completely at odds with reality but is common with Americans that gorge right-wing media and swallow Likud talking points. -
That's not what actual Muslims believe. Idiot.Sledog said:
Maybe you have missed all the "death to America" Mooselimb regimes out there. I don't like people that want everyone dead or converted to their religion. Here we call them enemies. There was a reason for the Crusades. HTH2001400ex said:
You have said multiple times you want to exterminate Muslims. How are you any better?Sledog said:
Maybe you can explain why the majority of the Muslim world wants to exterminate the Jews then? And have actually tried several times?HardlyClothed said:
Support for Germany during the war wasn’t because they shared an ideology for wanting to exterminate the jews but because of French and British colonialism in the region following Sykes-Picot and British sponsorship of a Jewish state in Palestine from the Balfour declaration. Gandhi wrote friendly letters to Hitler for the same anti-colonial reasons.RaceBannon said:
So when the Muslims supported Hitler it was because of Israel?HardlyClothed said:RaceBannon said:Can white people criticize Blacks?
We're trying to play by your rules
If you support the people who want to slaughter Jews you might be anti semitic
If you belong to a semitic religion that wants to slaughter Jews you are the issue
The origin of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is essentially a land dispute but actually every Muslim wants to slaughter Jews because Islam. Just bigoted bullshit from Race who has never even been to Israel.
Check your timeline
It is because of Islam going back centuries
If you can't even admit that then get the fuck out of here
Going back centuries there were plenty of Jewish communities living peacefully side by side with Muslims throughout the Ottoman Empire.
Not surprising you believe Bibi’s false narrative about the history of the conflict. He stepped in it by claiming that the Grand Mufti of Palestine gave Hitler the idea for the holocaust. You’re not far from making the same BS claims. -
Read the Koran moron.2001400ex said:
That's not what actual Muslims believe. Idiot.Sledog said:
Maybe you have missed all the "death to America" Mooselimb regimes out there. I don't like people that want everyone dead or converted to their religion. Here we call them enemies. There was a reason for the Crusades. HTH2001400ex said:
You have said multiple times you want to exterminate Muslims. How are you any better?Sledog said:
Maybe you can explain why the majority of the Muslim world wants to exterminate the Jews then? And have actually tried several times?HardlyClothed said:
Support for Germany during the war wasn’t because they shared an ideology for wanting to exterminate the jews but because of French and British colonialism in the region following Sykes-Picot and British sponsorship of a Jewish state in Palestine from the Balfour declaration. Gandhi wrote friendly letters to Hitler for the same anti-colonial reasons.RaceBannon said:
So when the Muslims supported Hitler it was because of Israel?HardlyClothed said:RaceBannon said:Can white people criticize Blacks?
We're trying to play by your rules
If you support the people who want to slaughter Jews you might be anti semitic
If you belong to a semitic religion that wants to slaughter Jews you are the issue
The origin of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is essentially a land dispute but actually every Muslim wants to slaughter Jews because Islam. Just bigoted bullshit from Race who has never even been to Israel.
Check your timeline
It is because of Islam going back centuries
If you can't even admit that then get the fuck out of here
Going back centuries there were plenty of Jewish communities living peacefully side by side with Muslims throughout the Ottoman Empire.
Not surprising you believe Bibi’s false narrative about the history of the conflict. He stepped in it by claiming that the Grand Mufti of Palestine gave Hitler the idea for the holocaust. You’re not far from making the same BS claims. -
So they deserve it? Nice
The Arab and Persian world have used the Palis far worse than Israel could dream of. Iran openly calls for the destruction of Israel and America because they don't want a solution. Instead of building a nation that Palis allowed themselves to be pawn thinking they would get it all
My "vision" of Israel is that I'd live there 100 times before I lived in a Muslim shit hole
Of course its racism, JFC -
Arab citizens of Israel,[3] or Arab Israelis, are Israeli citizens who are Arab. Many Arab citizens of Israel self-identify as Palestinian and commonly self-designate themselves as Palestinian citizens of Israel or Israeli Palestinians,[4][5] According to a 2017 survey, only 16% of the Arab population prefers the term "Israeli Arab", while the largest and fastest growing proportion prefers "Palestinian in Israel". A notable percentage prefers Palestinian Arab, rejecting entirely the identity of "Israeli".[6] The traditional vernacular of most Arab citizens, irrespective of religion, is Levantine Arabic, including Lebanese Arabic in the North of Israel, Palestinian dialect of Arabic in Central Israel and Bedouin dialects across the Negev desert; having absorbed much Hebrew loanwords and phrases, the modern dialect of Arab citizens of Israel is defined by some as the Israeli Arabic dialect.[7] Most Arab citizens of Israel are functionally bilingual, their second language being Modern Hebrew. By religious affiliation, most are Muslim, particularly of the Sunni branch of Islam. There is a significant Arab Christian minority from various denominations as well as the Druze, among other religious communities.[8]
According to Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics, the Arab population in 2013 was estimated at 1,658,000, representing 21% of the country's population.[2] The majority of these identify themselves as Arab or Palestinian by nationality and Israeli by citizenship.[9][10][11] Arab citizens of Israel mostly live in Arab-majority towns and cities; with eight of Israel's ten poorest cities being Arab. The vast majority attend separate schools to Jewish Israelis, and Arab political parties have never joined a government coalition.[12][13] Many have family ties to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip as well as to Palestinian refugees in Jordan, Syria and Lebanon.[14] Galilee Bedouins, Negev Bedouins and the Druze tend to identify more as Israelis than other Arab citizens of Israel.[15][16][17][18]
The Arabs living in East Jerusalem and the Druze in the Golan Heights, occupied by Israel in the Six-Day War of 1967 and later annexed, were offered Israeli citizenship, but most have refused, not wanting to recognize Israel's claim to sovereignty. They became permanent residents instead.[19] They have the right to apply for citizenship, are entitled to municipal services and have municipal voting rights.[20] -
So it's Israel that constantly provokes violent reactions from the peace-loving Palestinians, not the other way around.HardlyClothed said:
They are discriminated against in their daily lives. Something you would know if you have actually been there.RaceBannon said:I guess they should have taken the deal decades ago
Tough shit
Palis have rights in Israel today. Try again. They also have jobs and aren't strapping TNT to their children
Amazing what a difference that makes
Interfaith marriages are illegal in Israel. The IDF harasses them daily.
There’s a wave of settler violence against Palestinians in the West Bank going on right now. The nation state law passed last summer codifies the superior status of Jews in Israel.
You have a vision of Israel that is completely at odds with reality but is common with Americans that gorge right-wing media and swallow Likud talking points.
Brainwashing complete.
