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Shit's Getting Weird in Benghazi

AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
Not the stale shit about the US consulate there. But apparently there's a dude that just led a successful offensive of 8,000 troops against the local militias there. And if you know anything about post-Ghaddafi Libya, you know that the militias are the story.

https://news.vice.com/article/actually-there-are-a-bunch-of-benghazi-conspiracies

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  • topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
    Looks like a barrio in East LA.
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited May 2014
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.591590
    Libya: the Re-Dictatoring seems to be happening in full force.
    The top commander of the Libyan army's special forces said on Monday his troops had joined forces with renegade general Khalifa Haftar, who has said he wants to purge the North African country of militant Islamists.

    "We are with Haftar," Wanis Bukhamada told Reuters in the eastern city of Benghazi. On live television he had earlier announced his forces would join "Operation Dignity", as Haftar calls his campaign.

    The special forces are the best trained troops of Libya's nascent army. They have been deployed since last year in Benghazi to help stem a wave of car bombs and assassinations, but struggled to curb the activities of heavily-armed Islamist militias roaming around the city.

    Earlier, a Libyan air force base in the eastern city of Tobruk also said it was allying itself Haftar. "The Torbuk air force base will join...the army under the command of General Khalifa Qassim Haftar," the statement said. Staff at the air base confirmed its authenticity.
    This is not necessarily a bad thing.

    More:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/19/an-ex-cia-recruit-adds-to-libyan-chaos.html#
    The fierce fighting that swept across the Libyan capital on Sunday and the storming of the country’s interim parliament, along with the announcement of its suspension, by militias from the western mountain town of Zintan, marks a worrying new twist in the long-running crisis that has seen prime ministers come and go after weeks in office and the country’s oil-exporting ports blockaded by federalist-supporting militias.

    Other than their refusal to hand over to the fragil national government their prized captive, Gaddafi’s 41-year-old son Saif al-Islam, Zintan’s militias have been among the most loyal to Tripoli and dedicated to what passes in the north African nation for more orderly politics. They refused to participate in a coup last year against Libya’s longest-serving post-Gaddafi prime minister, Ali Zidan. Nor were they backers of a blockade of ministries last summer to force through a wide-ranging political isolation law excluding Gaddafi-era officials from holding public office. They have reserved their interventions in the capital to ensuring Tripoli’s international airport doesn’t fall into rogue hands.

    But the strong Islamist make-up of the legislature and the Muslim Brotherhood’s behind-the-scenes maneuvering appears, along with the chaotic drift and bombings and abductions in Benghazi, to have tried their patience.

    Zintan’s militias have now aligned with Retired Gen. Khalifa Haftar. Fighters from his self-proclaimed Libyan National Army, many drawn from official Libyan security forces, prompted Friday’s firefights in Benghazi with attacks on predominantly Islamist militias, including Ansar al-Sharia, one of the jihadist-inclined groups blamed for the 2012 razing of the U.S. diplomatic compound where Stevens died.
  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 5,114 Standard Supporter
    I'm not surprised since there usually is some pent-up bloodletting when a dictator takes power and after said dictator loses power.
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Point being, are we seeing the emergence of the "new boss (same as the old boss)?"

    Egypt just got their new hard-ass general, seems like Libya's getting theirs.

    The Arab Spring is dissipating into another summer of autocracy.
  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 5,114 Standard Supporter
    Yeah it never seems like a new general ever wants to hold real elections after seizing power. That's what made George Washington and Cincinnatus so impressive.
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    HFNY said:

    I'm not surprised since there usually is some pent-up bloodletting when a dictator takes power and after said dictator loses power.

    With forced regime change coming at such a high cost, it seems you should be able to earn great money as a 'regime transition planner' in a country like that.

  • GulagDawgGulagDawg Member Posts: 200
    Have we turned the Middle East into a parking lot yet?
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Let the arabs fight until there are none left.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,449 Swaye's Wigwam
    topdawgnc said:

    Looks like a barrio in Yakima

  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,449 Swaye's Wigwam

    Let the arabs fight until there are none left.

    What a humanitarian

  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited May 2014

    Let the arabs fight until there are none left.

    What a humanitarian

    If they can't manage to live in peace with their neighbors (which arabs constantly seem to have a problem doing) the humanitarian thing to do is let them attack each other so that there are less of them around to cause mischief, mayhem and murder in the future.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,449 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited May 2014

    Let the arabs fight until there are none left.

    What a humanitarian

    If they can't manage to live in peace with their neighbors (which arabs constantly seem to have a problem doing) the humanitarian thing to do is let them attack each other so that there are less of them around to cause mischief, mayhem and murder in the future.
    The arab world desperately needs education, science, and atheism. They'll eventually get it as a result of the internet. Iran is coming around and just gave women equal rights again now that Adminijehadadadda is no longer in power. Once tesla has taken over the car market and spacex has built electric planes (near fucking future, mark my words), we won't need the Saudi's and their annoying monarchy for oil. Look for a CIA coup there. The region has pretty much nowhere to go but up from the theocratic shitshow it's been since Hammurabi died.

    Or you could be OBK FS and hope millions of human beings commit genocide on one another
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited May 2014

    Let the arabs fight until there are none left.

    What a humanitarian

    If they can't manage to live in peace with their neighbors (which arabs constantly seem to have a problem doing) the humanitarian thing to do is let them attack each other so that there are less of them around to cause mischief, mayhem and murder in the future.
    The arab world desperately needs education, science, and atheism. They'll eventually get it as a result of the internet. Iran is coming around and just gave women equal rights again now that Adminijehadadadda is no longer in power. Once tesla has taken over the car market and spacex has built electric planes (near fucking future, mark my words), we won't need the Saudi's and their annoying monarchy for oil. Look for a CIA coup there. The region has pretty much nowhere to go but up from the theocratic shitshow it's been since Hammurabi died.

    Or you could be OBK FS and hope millions of human beings commit genocide on one another
    Dumb poast. I support murderers killing other murderers, nothing more. If you're an arab terrorist, go kill another arab terrorist that is not from your clan. That's what I support. Not genocide. The more these murderers get embroiled fighting one another, the better, because they need to die, period. It's better they die killing each other than they die in a suicide bombing killing innocents.

    Ahkmahdeeeenijihad was and is irrelevant. The Ayatollah runs things there. Iran and similar arab countries don't need education. What they require is to be subdued and controlled, because arabs have proven to be "jackasses of men who can't live in peace with their neighbors." These observations were written in a book you don't believe in several thousand years ago, and they're still true today. Iraq was better with a strongman like Hussein keeping the arabs under his control in submission. And Libya was better under Quaddafi. You see how well they handle freedom. It's a foreign word to them.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,449 Swaye's Wigwam

    Let the arabs fight until there are none left.

    What a humanitarian

    If they can't manage to live in peace with their neighbors (which arabs constantly seem to have a problem doing) the humanitarian thing to do is let them attack each other so that there are less of them around to cause mischief, mayhem and murder in the future.
    The arab world desperately needs education, science, and atheism. They'll eventually get it as a result of the internet. Iran is coming around and just gave women equal rights again now that Adminijehadadadda is no longer in power. Once tesla has taken over the car market and spacex has built electric planes (near fucking future, mark my words), we won't need the Saudi's and their annoying monarchy for oil. Look for a CIA coup there. The region has pretty much nowhere to go but up from the theocratic shitshow it's been since Hammurabi died.

    Or you could be OBK FS and hope millions of human beings commit genocide on one another
    Dumb poast. I support murderers killing other murderers, nothing more. If you're an arab terrorist, go kill another arab terrorist that is not from your clan. That's what I support. Not genocide. The more these murderers get embroiled fighting one another, the better, because they need to die, period. It's better they die killing each other than they die in a suicide bombing killing innocents.
    "Let the arabs fight until there are none left".

    In order to have none left, the women and children need to die too. try adding more context when you state your beliefs. you won't look as retarded.
  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    Let the arabs fight until there are none left.

    What a humanitarian

    If they can't manage to live in peace with their neighbors (which arabs constantly seem to have a problem doing) the humanitarian thing to do is let them attack each other so that there are less of them around to cause mischief, mayhem and murder in the future.
    I like to equate all A-rabs, I do that.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    Let the arabs fight until there are none left.

    What a humanitarian

    If they can't manage to live in peace with their neighbors (which arabs constantly seem to have a problem doing) the humanitarian thing to do is let them attack each other so that there are less of them around to cause mischief, mayhem and murder in the future.
    I like to equate all A-rabs, I do that.
    It seems to work for the most part.
  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Also, Iranians aren't Arab, but you knew that.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    Also, Iranians aren't Arab, but you knew that.

    Persians, arabs, not much difference.
  • GulagDawgGulagDawg Member Posts: 200
    I'm hearing all arabs are terrorists.
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