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Biden wants $33B more to help Ukraine battle Russia

SFGbob
SFGbob Member Posts: 33,219
Hey why not? We're just going to print it anyway.
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    But why does the US want to see an end to the conflict?

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 18,066 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Hey why not? We're just going to print it anyway.

    But not a dime for the US border. Fuck Joe Biden and the leftards that voted or cheated for him.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,573
    edited April 2022
    I actually don't have a huge problem with this. The longer the Ukraine war goes, the more likely Russia is to crumble from the inside out. Russia collapsing isn't directly great, because nobody views Russia as an economic threat anyway. The real benefit is indirectly, as it puts a lot more pressure on China. China was gravitating more and more with Russia, thinking they could use Russia to help strongarm military objectives in the south pacific. China now seeing that their new "buddy" is nothing more than a paper army, has to scare the shit out of them. This may force China to calm itself, and realize that it needs to know it's place.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 18,066 Standard Supporter

    I actually don't have a huge problem with this. The longer the Ukraine war goes, the more likely Russia is to crumble from the inside out. Russia collapsing isn't directly great, because nobody views Russia as an economic threat anyway. The real benefit is indirectly, as it puts a lot more pressure on China. China was gravitating more and more with Russia, thinking they could use Russia to help strongarm military objectives in the south pacific. China now seeing that their new "buddy" is nothing more than a paper army, has to scare the shit out of them. This may force China to calm itself, and realize that it needs to know it's place.

    Dictators like Xi don't have a strong history of making rational decisions. Xi is boxed in with debt and demographics and huge environmental problems.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,318 Founders Club

    I actually don't have a huge problem with this. The longer the Ukraine war goes, the more likely Russia is to crumble from the inside out. Russia collapsing isn't directly great, because nobody views Russia as an economic threat anyway. The real benefit is indirectly, as it puts a lot more pressure on China. China was gravitating more and more with Russia, thinking they could use Russia to help strongarm military objectives in the south pacific. China now seeing that their new "buddy" is nothing more than a paper army, has to scare the shit out of them. This may force China to calm itself, and realize that it needs to know it's place.

    Do you have a red line number? Why not a trillion dollars? How about $10 trillion? FMfyfe. As if even a fraction of the money is actually going in to fighting Russia. But as long as it makes you feel good.
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    You think 33 billion will be the last donation? How much is the next one? The government just spent a trillion on covid. At some point people on the edges of society will go nuts. The economy was -1.4% Complete disaster.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,318 Founders Club
    jecornel said:

    You think 33 billion will be the last donation? How much is the next one? The government just spent a trillion on covid. At some point people on the edges of society will go nuts. The economy was -1.4% Complete disaster.

    He must be old and extremely wealthy or he simply doesn't understand the concept of devaluation.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited April 2022
    Remember, 10% off the top to “The Big Guy.” Just today Veggie went after Russian Oligarchs. He’s gonna make them pay. Seize their yachts. These are bad guys. Wealthy through ill gotten means.

    Hey Veggie, use their $Billions.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,833 Standard Supporter
    Biden admin is leaking that they have helped Ukraine by providing tech/intel for killing the generals, sink Moskva etc. They really are trying to start a war.