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Obama and misinformation
SFGbob
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From the fucking asshole who let his party and his supporters in the media repeat the fucking lie about "hands up don't shoot" when he and Holder both knew it was a lie and he never said a word.
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Here's your ally
Handing over the Crimea
But
Obama in 2012 gets a message to Putin to wait for his reelection so he could move
2014 Crimea is annexed
And in the darndest coincidence in 2022 with Obama sock puppet Biden in office we get the full invasion
And today Obama calls anyone who disagrees with the narrative a Putin disinformer
My opinion is that the Obama cabal played Zelensky. The war is what matters not who wins
“There was a hateful video that was disseminated on the Internet. It had nothing to do with the United States government, and it’s one that we find disgusting and reprehensible. It’s been offensive to many, many people around the world. That sparked violence in various parts of the world, including violence directed against Western facilities including our embassies and consulates.”
On CBS’ “Face the Nation,” Rice also said that, “We do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned.”
September 18 – Jay Carney
“Our belief, based on the information we have, is it was the video that caused the unrest in Cairo, and the video and the unrest in Cairo that helped – that precipitated some of the unrest in Benghazi and elsewhere. What other factors were involved is a matter of investigation.”
September 19 – Jay Carney
“It is a simple fact that there are, in post-revolution, postwar Libya, armed groups, there are bad actors hostile to the government, hostile to the West, hostile to the United States. And as has been the case in other countries in the region, it is certainly conceivable that these groups take advantage of and exploit situations that develop, when they develop, to protest against or attack either Westerners, Americans, Western sites or American sites. … Right now I’m saying we don’t have evidence at this point that this was premeditated or preplanned to coincide on a – to happen on a specific date or coincide with that anniversary.”
I’m confused on why you’re showing me this and who you think my ally is. Because if you’re saying it’s Obama then I’m doubly confused, as I’m fairly sure I have explained how US foreign policy fucked this up in 2014. Obama’s and Hillary’s foreign policy in regards to Russia was a disaster.
There’s even a picture of the exact moment that Russia realized that those they consider to be their main adversary is fucking stupid. The “reset” button, where they didn’t even use the proper Russian word for reset - they went with one that translates better as “overload”
You are making the mistake of discounting Europe - they are the appeasers who helped make it happen. Led by Russophile former young communist, and once-a-upon a time butterface nudist, Reichskanzler Merkel. Their austerity programs, the polarized political spectrum, Russian energy, propaganda, and bribes, Ukraine’s own incompetence - all that added up to the perfect storm. Combined with US inaction after Georgia in 2008, they chose the end of Bush era and they knew we were warred out with no cohesive policy. Then Syria. And many transgressions in between.
You’re also taking away agency from the Russians and Ukrainians. This conflict predates any of us, possibly even you. But as usual I’m rambling.
Goes to motive and character
I do care that millions of civilians are paying for this
I also thought democracy in the Mid East was a good idea
But as you say, these conflicts are decades old and ultimately between the two players
The West is happy as always to arm both sides
Where are our NATO allies in all of this (other than taking in a ton of refugees and dispensing humanitarian aid)?
Are Germany, France et al going to provide armed troops if it comes down to NATO sending in ground troops or air support?
Is Turkey an American ally?
What’s the Live Update on the ground in Afghanistan?
“There was a hateful video that was disseminated on the Internet. It had nothing to do with the United States government, and it’s one that we find disgusting and reprehensible. It’s been offensive to many, many people around the world. That sparked violence in various parts of the world, including violence directed against Western facilities including our embassies and consulates.”
On CBS’ “Face the Nation,” Rice also said that, “We do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned.”
September 18 – Jay Carney
“Our belief, based on the information we have, is it was the video that caused the unrest in Cairo, and the video and the unrest in Cairo that helped – that precipitated some of the unrest in Benghazi and elsewhere. What other factors were involved is a matter of investigation.”
September 19 – Jay Carney
“It is a simple fact that there are, in post-revolution, postwar Libya, armed groups, there are bad actors hostile to the government, hostile to the West, hostile to the United States. And as has been the case in other countries in the region, it is certainly conceivable that these groups take advantage of and exploit situations that develop, when they develop, to protest against or attack either Westerners, Americans, Western sites or American sites. … Right now I’m saying we don’t have evidence at this point that this was premeditated or preplanned to coincide on a – to happen on a specific date or coincide with that anniversary.”
Perhaps, Obama can circle back and address this BS when addressing his new campaign against “misinformation” . . .
"It's Steve Bannon's fault that my podcast has low ratings"
Fact Check- Mostly false. Disinformation.