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If you really wanted to reduce the amount of violent crime it wouldn't be hard to do

SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,107
edited April 2022 in Tug Tavern
It just takes the will to do it. Arrest these fuckers and prosecute them and put them in jail for a long fucking time. It's what we did starting in the 1990s and by some weird coincidence violent crime dropped.

Every year, about 500 identifiable people in D.C. drive as much as 70% of the city’s gun violence, according to a new report commissioned by the city.

The study was authored by the National Institute for Criminal Justice Reform, which has been working with the District to come up with a strategic plan for reducing gun violence. It found that a relatively small group of people — likely as little as 200 people at any one point in time — are driving a majority of homicides and shootings in the city.


But this shit doesn't just hold true for violent crime it holds true for all crime. If you start arresting people and putting them in jail you deter a bunch of people from ever committing crime in the first place. Do what California has done, legalize property and drug crimes and you'll get a shit load of more crime.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/new-study-offers-insight-into-who-is-responsible-for-gun-violence-in-dc

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  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,932 Founders Club
    I want taggers, looters and thieves to lose a hand.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,107
    edited April 2022
    RoadTrip said:

    I want taggers, looters and thieves to lose a hand.

    I'm with ya, but baby steps.

    I'm really tired of paying a shit load of taxes and having all the public spaces in the urban area where I live turned into shit-holes. Why should the taxpaying public have to deal with degenerate bums and junkies taking over public parks and open spaces?
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,731 Standard Supporter
    Classic NY Times Headline during Giuliani's time as mayor.

    Despite Drop in Crime, an Increase in Inmates
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    RoadTrip said:

    I want taggers, looters and thieves to lose a hand.

    Tagging isn’t a huge deal to me. It’s mostly harmless grit to the cities and some are even great artists. They definitely don’t deserve to lose a hand.

    Theft and looting should be more harshly punished.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,731 Standard Supporter

    RoadTrip said:

    I want taggers, looters and thieves to lose a hand.

    Tagging isn’t a huge deal to me. It’s mostly harmless grit to the cities and some are even great artists. They definitely don’t deserve to lose a hand.

    Theft and looting should be more harshly punished.
    Tagging buildings in downtown Portland is out of control. It's way beyond harmless grit. This isn't some random cement overpass structure getting tagged.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited April 2022
    SFGbob said:

    It just takes the will to do it. Arrest these fuckers and prosecute them and put them in jail for a long fucking time. It's what we did starting in the 1990s and by some weird coincidence violent crime dropped.

    Every year, about 500 identifiable people in D.C. drive as much as 70% of the city’s gun violence, according to a new report commissioned by the city.

    The study was authored by the National Institute for Criminal Justice Reform, which has been working with the District to come up with a strategic plan for reducing gun violence. It found that a relatively small group of people — likely as little as 200 people at any one point in time — are driving a majority of homicides and shootings in the city.


    But this shit doesn't just hold true for violent crime it holds true for all crime. If you start arresting people and putting them in jail you deter a bunch of people from ever committing crime in the first place. Do what California has done, legalize property and drug crimes and you'll get a shit load of more crime.

    https://www.fox5dc.com/news/new-study-offers-insight-into-who-is-responsible-for-gun-violence-in-dc

    Clinton and Biden, back when they were overt racists were all about jailing the black men. They didn’t give a shit about BLM, they needed to get pieces of shit off the streets. To protect people of all colors. Now Biden is covert racist, his is for the continued destruction of the family and murder of innocent people just so he doesn’t run afoul of the squad and the far left in the party (like TKS). It’s costing lives, but they are black lives mostly so who gives a shit. We have white people issues to deal with, like panicking over wearing masks because of a cold.

    “We have predators on our streets that society has in fact, in part because of its neglect, created,” said Biden, then a fourth-term senator from Delaware so committed to the bill that he has referred to it over the years as “the Biden bill.”

    “They are beyond the pale many of those people, beyond the pale,” Biden continued. “And it’s a sad commentary on society. We have no choice but to take them out of society.”

    In the speech, Biden described a “cadre of young people, tens of thousands of them, born out of wedlock, without parents, without supervision, without any structure, without any conscience developing because they literally … because they literally have not been socialized, they literally have not had an opportunity.” He said, “we should focus on them now” because “if we don’t, they will, or a portion of them, will become the predators 15 years from now.”

    Biden added that he didn’t care “why someone is a malefactor in society” and that criminals needed to be “away from my mother, your husband, our families.”

  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    RoadTrip said:

    I want taggers, looters and thieves to lose a hand.

    Tagging isn’t a huge deal to me. It’s mostly harmless grit to the cities and some are even great artists. They definitely don’t deserve to lose a hand.

    Theft and looting should be more harshly punished.
    Tagging buildings in downtown Portland is out of control. It's way beyond harmless grit. This isn't some random cement overpass structure getting tagged.
    The building owners have insurance.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,107

    SFGbob said:

    It just takes the will to do it. Arrest these fuckers and prosecute them and put them in jail for a long fucking time. It's what we did starting in the 1990s and by some weird coincidence violent crime dropped.

    Every year, about 500 identifiable people in D.C. drive as much as 70% of the city’s gun violence, according to a new report commissioned by the city.

    The study was authored by the National Institute for Criminal Justice Reform, which has been working with the District to come up with a strategic plan for reducing gun violence. It found that a relatively small group of people — likely as little as 200 people at any one point in time — are driving a majority of homicides and shootings in the city.


    But this shit doesn't just hold true for violent crime it holds true for all crime. If you start arresting people and putting them in jail you deter a bunch of people from ever committing crime in the first place. Do what California has done, legalize property and drug crimes and you'll get a shit load of more crime.

    https://www.fox5dc.com/news/new-study-offers-insight-into-who-is-responsible-for-gun-violence-in-dc

    Clinton and Biden, back when they were overt racists were all about jailing the black men. They didn’t give a shit about BLM, they needed to get pieces of shit off the streets. To protect people of all colors. Now Biden is covert racist, his is for the continued destruction of the family and murder of innocent people just so he doesn’t run afoul of the squad and the far left in the party (like TKS). It’s costing lives, but they are black lives mostly so who gives a shit. We have white people issues to deal with, like panicking over wearing masks because of a cold.

    “We have predators on our streets that society has in fact, in part because of its neglect, created,” said Biden, then a fourth-term senator from Delaware so committed to the bill that he has referred to it over the years as “the Biden bill.”

    “They are beyond the pale many of those people, beyond the pale,” Biden continued. “And it’s a sad commentary on society. We have no choice but to take them out of society.”

    In the speech, Biden described a “cadre of young people, tens of thousands of them, born out of wedlock, without parents, without supervision, without any structure, without any conscience developing because they literally … because they literally have not been socialized, they literally have not had an opportunity.” He said, “we should focus on them now” because “if we don’t, they will, or a portion of them, will become the predators 15 years from now.”

    Biden added that he didn’t care “why someone is a malefactor in society” and that criminals needed to be “away from my mother, your husband, our families.”

    And he was right.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    It just takes the will to do it. Arrest these fuckers and prosecute them and put them in jail for a long fucking time. It's what we did starting in the 1990s and by some weird coincidence violent crime dropped.

    Every year, about 500 identifiable people in D.C. drive as much as 70% of the city’s gun violence, according to a new report commissioned by the city.

    The study was authored by the National Institute for Criminal Justice Reform, which has been working with the District to come up with a strategic plan for reducing gun violence. It found that a relatively small group of people — likely as little as 200 people at any one point in time — are driving a majority of homicides and shootings in the city.


    But this shit doesn't just hold true for violent crime it holds true for all crime. If you start arresting people and putting them in jail you deter a bunch of people from ever committing crime in the first place. Do what California has done, legalize property and drug crimes and you'll get a shit load of more crime.

    https://www.fox5dc.com/news/new-study-offers-insight-into-who-is-responsible-for-gun-violence-in-dc

    Clinton and Biden, back when they were overt racists were all about jailing the black men. They didn’t give a shit about BLM, they needed to get pieces of shit off the streets. To protect people of all colors. Now Biden is covert racist, his is for the continued destruction of the family and murder of innocent people just so he doesn’t run afoul of the squad and the far left in the party (like TKS). It’s costing lives, but they are black lives mostly so who gives a shit. We have white people issues to deal with, like panicking over wearing masks because of a cold.

    “We have predators on our streets that society has in fact, in part because of its neglect, created,” said Biden, then a fourth-term senator from Delaware so committed to the bill that he has referred to it over the years as “the Biden bill.”

    “They are beyond the pale many of those people, beyond the pale,” Biden continued. “And it’s a sad commentary on society. We have no choice but to take them out of society.”

    In the speech, Biden described a “cadre of young people, tens of thousands of them, born out of wedlock, without parents, without supervision, without any structure, without any conscience developing because they literally … because they literally have not been socialized, they literally have not had an opportunity.” He said, “we should focus on them now” because “if we don’t, they will, or a portion of them, will become the predators 15 years from now.”

    Biden added that he didn’t care “why someone is a malefactor in society” and that criminals needed to be “away from my mother, your husband, our families.”

    And he was right.
    It’s all about guns these days.
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