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So these sanctions appear to be pathetically weak

SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113
Wasn't one of Joe's selling points during the campaign about how Trump had alienated all of our allies and how he knew how to work with them and get things done? Germany and Italy both opposed kicking Russia out of the banking system. We're not sanctioning Russia's oil industry. It's almost as if Biden is nothing more than Putin's bitch. Where's the OUTRAGE Dazzler?
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  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,936 Swaye's Wigwam
    Domestic real energy policy was already going to be a campaign hot topic. Now it’s going to have a chance to be a top platform policy as it should be.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113
    Bob_C said:

    Domestic real energy policy was already going to be a campaign hot topic. Now it’s going to have a chance to be a top platform policy as it should be.

    $6.00 a gallon gas here in California might have a way of focusing the mind.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    SFGbob said:

    Bob_C said:

    Domestic real energy policy was already going to be a campaign hot topic. Now it’s going to have a chance to be a top platform policy as it should be.

    $6.00 a gallon gas here in California might have a way of focusing the mind.
    I’ve heard projections as high as $8-9/gal in Cali.
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    Bob_C said:

    Domestic real energy policy was already going to be a campaign hot topic. Now it’s going to have a chance to be a top platform policy as it should be.

    We let the progressives run energy policy. How is that working out for us?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,745 Founders Club
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited February 2022
    46XiJCAB said:

    We’re importing 600K barrels from Russia daily. Joey shutdown at least 800K here in production.

    In 2016 we were producing 15M daily. Estimates for 2022 are less than 12M daily.

    The price of a black book of damming info today. No 10%.

    I've seen were 800k was shut down by Biden, but don't know exactly what was shut down that reduced our production by 800k. Does anyone know?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113
    edited February 2022

    46XiJCAB said:

    We’re importing 600K barrels from Russia daily. Joey shutdown at least 800K here in production.

    In 2016 we were producing 15M daily. Estimates for 2022 are less than 12M daily.

    The price of a black book of damming info today. No 10%.

    I'm seen were 800k was shut down by Biden, but don't know exactly what was shut down that reduced our production by 800k. Does anyone know?
    The Keystone pipeline when completed would have provided over 800K barrels a day. Biden also closed Federal land to oil and gas exploration as well halting offshore oil and gas drilling leases.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Energy production is power and energy independence means fuck off power. We have neither now. Net exporter to groveling importers.

    Thanks BidenBros. Great vote. Well done. Losers.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,483 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Wasn't one of Joe's selling points during the campaign about how Trump had alienated all of our allies and how he knew how to work with them and get things done? Germany and Italy both opposed kicking Russia out of the banking system. We're not sanctioning Russia's oil industry. It's almost as if Biden is nothing more than Putin's bitch. Where's the OUTRAGE Dazzler?

    Hunters laptop contain very damning information. They have one.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited February 2022
    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    We’re importing 600K barrels from Russia daily. Joey shutdown at least 800K here in production.

    In 2016 we were producing 15M daily. Estimates for 2022 are less than 12M daily.

    The price of a black book of damming info today. No 10%.

    I'm seen were 800k was shut down by Biden, but don't know exactly what was shut down that reduced our production by 800k. Does anyone know?
    The Keystone pipeline when completed would have provided over 800K barrels a day. Biden also closed Federal land to oil and gas exploration as well halting offshore oil and gas drilling leases.
    They Keystone XL pipeline was a few years away from completion and had nothing to do with reduction of our oil production today.

    And stopping leases and exploration does nothing today to reduce the supply.

    Also, Keystone is for Canadian imported oil, not US production.

    I'm just trying to figure out how Biden cost the USA energy independence this year, not year out.

    Also Biden was sued and forced to sell new leases last summer.

    I want to be factual. Why are we currently producing less oil?
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited February 2022
    I need to head over to Costco to fill my premium only SUV and see what kind of pain Joey is inflicting today. Wife said it was $3.89 yesterday. Report to follow.

    We still have choices in America. Unfortunately some chose the wrong box on their ballot.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,483 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    We’re importing 600K barrels from Russia daily. Joey shutdown at least 800K here in production.

    In 2016 we were producing 15M daily. Estimates for 2022 are less than 12M daily.

    The price of a black book of damming info today. No 10%.

    I'm seen were 800k was shut down by Biden, but don't know exactly what was shut down that reduced our production by 800k. Does anyone know?
    The Keystone pipeline when completed would have provided over 800K barrels a day. Biden also closed Federal land to oil and gas exploration as well halting offshore oil and gas drilling leases.
    They Keystone XL pipeline was a few years away from completion and had nothing to do with reduction of our oil production today.

    And stopping leases and exploration does nothing today to reduce the supply.

    Also, Keystone is for Canadian imported oil, not US production.

    I'm just trying to figure out how Biden cost the USA energy independence this year, not year out.

    Also Biden was sued and forced to sell new leases last summer
    Biden policies impacted production here. All the keystone pipeline oil is rolling through the US in train tankers owned by friends of the dems. They are getting rich. Russia being our #2 supplier was laways a mistake. Always.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    We’re importing 600K barrels from Russia daily. Joey shutdown at least 800K here in production.

    In 2016 we were producing 15M daily. Estimates for 2022 are less than 12M daily.

    The price of a black book of damming info today. No 10%.

    I'm seen were 800k was shut down by Biden, but don't know exactly what was shut down that reduced our production by 800k. Does anyone know?
    The Keystone pipeline when completed would have provided over 800K barrels a day. Biden also closed Federal land to oil and gas exploration as well halting offshore oil and gas drilling leases.
    They Keystone XL pipeline was a few years away from completion and had nothing to do with reduction of our oil production today.

    And stopping leases and exploration does nothing today to reduce the supply.

    Also, Keystone is for Canadian imported oil, not US production.

    I'm just trying to figure out how Biden cost the USA energy independence this year, not year out.

    Also Biden was sued and forced to sell new leases last summer.

    I want to be factual. Why are we currently producing less oil?
    Correct, Keystone had nothing to do with domestic production but would have been important for domestic supply.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited February 2022
    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    We’re importing 600K barrels from Russia daily. Joey shutdown at least 800K here in production.

    In 2016 we were producing 15M daily. Estimates for 2022 are less than 12M daily.

    The price of a black book of damming info today. No 10%.

    I'm seen were 800k was shut down by Biden, but don't know exactly what was shut down that reduced our production by 800k. Does anyone know?
    The Keystone pipeline when completed would have provided over 800K barrels a day. Biden also closed Federal land to oil and gas exploration as well halting offshore oil and gas drilling leases.
    They Keystone XL pipeline was a few years away from completion and had nothing to do with reduction of our oil production today.

    And stopping leases and exploration does nothing today to reduce the supply.

    Also, Keystone is for Canadian imported oil, not US production.

    I'm just trying to figure out how Biden cost the USA energy independence this year, not year out.

    Also Biden was sued and forced to sell new leases last summer
    Biden policies impacted production here. All the keystone pipeline oil is rolling through the US in train tankers owned by friends of the dems. They are getting rich. Russia being our #2 supplier was laways a mistake. Always.
    Again. The Keystone pipeline is in production and oil is flowing. Keystone XL was cancelled by Biden and wouldn't be operating for a few years if it was being built today. And it may be restarted in 3 years and would bring Canadian oil to US refineries.

    No new leases has no affect on current production. It takes years to develop land to the point of production.

    I'm asking specifically, what Biden policy cause a 3 million barrel a day reduction in current domestic production. I honestly don't know. I haven't researched it much. But on it's surface, putting the cancellation of Keytone XL as the reason seems like a talking point that gets thrown around without a lot to back it up.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    We’re importing 600K barrels from Russia daily. Joey shutdown at least 800K here in production.

    In 2016 we were producing 15M daily. Estimates for 2022 are less than 12M daily.

    The price of a black book of damming info today. No 10%.

    I'm seen were 800k was shut down by Biden, but don't know exactly what was shut down that reduced our production by 800k. Does anyone know?
    The Keystone pipeline when completed would have provided over 800K barrels a day. Biden also closed Federal land to oil and gas exploration as well halting offshore oil and gas drilling leases.
    They Keystone XL pipeline was a few years away from completion and had nothing to do with reduction of our oil production today.

    And stopping leases and exploration does nothing today to reduce the supply.

    Also, Keystone is for Canadian imported oil, not US production.

    I'm just trying to figure out how Biden cost the USA energy independence this year, not year out.

    Also Biden was sued and forced to sell new leases last summer
    Biden policies impacted production here. All the keystone pipeline oil is rolling through the US in train tankers owned by friends of the dems. They are getting rich. Russia being our #2 supplier was laways a mistake. Always.
    Again. They Keystone pipeline is in production and oil is flowing. Keystone XL was cancelled by Biden and wouldn't be operating for a few years if it was being built today. And it may be restated in 3 years.

    No new leases has no affect on current production. It takes years to develop land to the point of production.

    I'm asking specifically, what Biden policy cause a 3 million barrel a day reduction in current domestic production. I honestly don't know. I haven't researched it much. But on it's surface, putting the cancellation of Keytone XL as the reason seems like a talking point that gets thrown around without a lot to back it up.
    Honest answer, you can't point to anything specifically Biden did that lowered US production today. Covid did more to cut production than Biden. But all is fair in politics and war. Biden got into bed with the Green-new deal and now he has fleas. Fuck him.
  • DoogieMcDoogersonDoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,495

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    We’re importing 600K barrels from Russia daily. Joey shutdown at least 800K here in production.

    In 2016 we were producing 15M daily. Estimates for 2022 are less than 12M daily.

    The price of a black book of damming info today. No 10%.

    I'm seen were 800k was shut down by Biden, but don't know exactly what was shut down that reduced our production by 800k. Does anyone know?
    The Keystone pipeline when completed would have provided over 800K barrels a day. Biden also closed Federal land to oil and gas exploration as well halting offshore oil and gas drilling leases.
    They Keystone XL pipeline was a few years away from completion and had nothing to do with reduction of our oil production today.

    And stopping leases and exploration does nothing today to reduce the supply.

    Also, Keystone is for Canadian imported oil, not US production.

    I'm just trying to figure out how Biden cost the USA energy independence this year, not year out.

    Also Biden was sued and forced to sell new leases last summer
    Biden policies impacted production here. All the keystone pipeline oil is rolling through the US in train tankers owned by friends of the dems. They are getting rich. Russia being our #2 supplier was laways a mistake. Always.
    Again. The Keystone pipeline is in production and oil is flowing. Keystone XL was cancelled by Biden and wouldn't be operating for a few years if it was being built today. And it may be restarted in 3 years and would bring Canadian oil to US refineries.

    No new leases has no affect on current production. It takes years to develop land to the point of production.

    I'm asking specifically, what Biden policy cause a 3 million barrel a day reduction in current domestic production. I honestly don't know. I haven't researched it much. But on it's surface, putting the cancellation of Keytone XL as the reason seems like a talking point that gets thrown around without a lot to back it up.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/30/us-oil-production-to-increase-further-in-2022-oil-expert-dan-yergin.html
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    We’re importing 600K barrels from Russia daily. Joey shutdown at least 800K here in production.

    In 2016 we were producing 15M daily. Estimates for 2022 are less than 12M daily.

    The price of a black book of damming info today. No 10%.

    I'm seen were 800k was shut down by Biden, but don't know exactly what was shut down that reduced our production by 800k. Does anyone know?
    The Keystone pipeline when completed would have provided over 800K barrels a day. Biden also closed Federal land to oil and gas exploration as well halting offshore oil and gas drilling leases.
    They Keystone XL pipeline was a few years away from completion and had nothing to do with reduction of our oil production today.

    And stopping leases and exploration does nothing today to reduce the supply.

    Also, Keystone is for Canadian imported oil, not US production.

    I'm just trying to figure out how Biden cost the USA energy independence this year, not year out.

    Also Biden was sued and forced to sell new leases last summer
    Biden policies impacted production here. All the keystone pipeline oil is rolling through the US in train tankers owned by friends of the dems. They are getting rich. Russia being our #2 supplier was laways a mistake. Always.
    Again. The Keystone pipeline is in production and oil is flowing. Keystone XL was cancelled by Biden and wouldn't be operating for a few years if it was being built today. And it may be restarted in 3 years and would bring Canadian oil to US refineries.

    No new leases has no affect on current production. It takes years to develop land to the point of production.

    I'm asking specifically, what Biden policy cause a 3 million barrel a day reduction in current domestic production. I honestly don't know. I haven't researched it much. But on it's surface, putting the cancellation of Keytone XL as the reason seems like a talking point that gets thrown around without a lot to back it up.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/30/us-oil-production-to-increase-further-in-2022-oil-expert-dan-yergin.html
    $100 a barrel oil will help increase US production.
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