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My Personal Stance On Immigration

thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 6,461
Let me start by saying that I am at once pro-immigration and pro secure borders.

I believe we do need an effective deterrence to illegal, unfettered entry to the United States. A country’s sovereignty is defined by her ability to protect her borders against those who wish to do her harm. The situation along our southern border that was first designed and then abated by the current administration is a human rights catastrophe, as well as a complete abdication of the executive branch’s first and foremost duty to protect the citizens of this country.

But we need more productive citizens. And this is where I am pro-immigration. America is a nation built on the backs of hard working and productive immigrants from all over Europe, Africa, Asia, and the rest of the americas. We owe it to our history and our future to encourage the best and brightest to come here to thrive and those truly looking to escape tyranny and squalor to come here and stake their place in our great human experience and social experiment. My family’s ancestors settled in Texas, Appalachia, and the Carolinas from places like Germany, Scotland, France, and Mexico. They came fleeing corrupt government, famine, and war, and they mined and built railroads and farmed, and eventually became doctors, engineers, nurses, business owners, and scientists through the generations.

There is no reason to think those who want to invest in themselves and their futures, and who wish to come here legally can’t do the same. We should be encouraging immigration, but what we are doing now is disgusting and perverse to our ideals and to those who wish to come here.
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  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,731 Standard Supporter
    We have laws on the books that you can't legally immigrate to the US if you are going to be a welfare case. Of course like all our immigration laws this is rarely enforced. When a huge percentage of the legal and illegal US immigrants go on the public dole you have a problem. When chain migration is the preferred method of over a million legal immigrants per year you aren't getting the best and brightest of the world, you are the world's welfare magnet. Importing 90,000 largely illiterate non-English speaking Afghan largely male unvetted refugees who didn't work for the US is the act of an America hating dementia patient. When becoming a US citizen supposedly requires literacy in English then printing millions of ballots from every language on the planet shows you how seriously the left and the Chamber of Commerce RINOs think about our country.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,086
    Nope. Nobody that can't afford it.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,539 Founders Club
    No reason to let in more than 100,000 per year for the next decade
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    My grandmothers are immigrants. My wife is an immigrant. America is not perfect but people still want to come here.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,086
    Nope. Nobody that can't afford it.
    Swaye said:

    You are all immigrants to me and I hope you all die (not a call for genocide).

    Conquerors is probably better term. Or invaders.

    I always love that argument. Well we invaded the native Americans land! Yeah and uhh....it didn't work out so well for them now did it? Do you think they would vote to allow it to happen?
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    We have a lawless administration right now and they’re lawlessness isn’t limited to ignoring our immigration laws.

    Again. If the GOP isn’t filing impeachment papers on Day one against Joey, you can kiss this place goodbye. Because at that point we’re all F’d. Even you BidenBros.

    I like immigration, the legal kind.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,868 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2022
    46XiJCAB said:

    We have a lawless administration right now and they’re lawlessness isn’t limited to ignoring our immigration laws.

    Again. If the GOP isn’t filing impeachment papers on Day one against Joey, you can kiss this place goodbye. Because at that point we’re all F’d. Even you BidenBros.

    I like immigration, the legal kind.

    Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses has worked for 250 years. Nobody ever bum-rushed Ellis Island.

    Get in line, get clearance legally and then come on in. But fuck this bullshit of uncontrolled passage into the USA. That's just lunacy.

    Or annex Mexico and send the US military in to fuck up the cartels permanently. That'd be a helluva lot more productive than some bullshit Ukraine/Russia wag the dog crap.

  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    hardhat said:

    My grandmothers are immigrants. My wife is an immigrant. America is not perfect but people still want to come here.

    They love it and are not aware or don’t care about all the bullshit in the news and on Twitter.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Watched the Kevin James comedy "Here Comes the Boom" the other night. Him teaching citizenship classes was very funny. I was wondering, will any of the hordes of illegals be taught anything about this country? Ferris?
  • MelloDawgMelloDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,759 Swaye's Wigwam
    46XiJCAB said:

    We have a lawless administration right now and they’re lawlessness isn’t limited to ignoring our immigration laws.

    Again. If the GOP isn’t filing impeachment papers on Day one against Joey, you can kiss this place goodbye. Because at that point we’re all F’d. Even you BidenBros.

    I like immigration, the legal kind.

    Neat. What do you think that will do?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,736 Founders Club
    MelloDawg said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    We have a lawless administration right now and they’re lawlessness isn’t limited to ignoring our immigration laws.

    Again. If the GOP isn’t filing impeachment papers on Day one against Joey, you can kiss this place goodbye. Because at that point we’re all F’d. Even you BidenBros.

    I like immigration, the legal kind.

    Neat. What do you think that will do?

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,736 Founders Club
    I just want free healthcare and open borders
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,868 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2022
    Swaye said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    We have a lawless administration right now and they’re lawlessness isn’t limited to ignoring our immigration laws.

    Again. If the GOP isn’t filing impeachment papers on Day one against Joey, you can kiss this place goodbye. Because at that point we’re all F’d. Even you BidenBros.

    I like immigration, the legal kind.

    Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses has worked for 250 years. Nobody ever bum-rushed Ellis Island.

    Get in line, get clearance legally and then come on in. But fuck this bullshit of uncontrolled passage into the USA. That's just lunacy.

    Or annex Mexico and send the US military in to fuck up the cartels permanently. That'd be a helluva lot more productive than some bullshit Ukraine/Russia wag the dog crap.

    This is actually a great idea. I love Messicans. Great people. Great food. They have wonderful beaches. Just go absolutely obliterate all the cartels and then let's have three America. North, South and Desert. Enchiladas and hot Messican chicks for life.


    Who the fuck is the chick on the right?

    I must do intensive research on her proclivity to take off her clothes for the camera.

  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    MelloDawg said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    We have a lawless administration right now and they’re lawlessness isn’t limited to ignoring our immigration laws.

    Again. If the GOP isn’t filing impeachment papers on Day one against Joey, you can kiss this place goodbye. Because at that point we’re all F’d. Even you BidenBros.

    I like immigration, the legal kind.

    Neat. What do you think that will do?
    FO Mello.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,482 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    You are all immigrants to me and I hope you all die (not a call for genocide).

    But didn't the Indians walk here on a land bridge from Asia? Sounds like immigrants?
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    I just want free healthcare and open borders

    And LGBTQ rights.
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 6,461

    I just want free healthcare and open borders

    And LGBTQ rights.
    It’s sad how long they’ve been denied their civil rights…and always by those evil republicans….

    If only democrats held 100% of congress and the WH and the Supreme Court the world would be a better place for those who deserve it👍
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