Husky Jacks open thread [2022]
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feels like all the 5*s we? get dont turn out to be 5*s when they get on the field.dannarc said:
He basically said the focus is keeping Washington kids home and dominating California. He noted that the 5-star kids that USC wants will stay home. So what. How many five-star players does UW ever get from anywhere, let alone Southern California. Yet even still, there is so much talent there that UW should be able to stock its program with great players (a lot of them need a year or two in the program to develop -- that's going to be where DeBoner earns his keep).
He didn't really say anything that was surprising or worrisome, imho. It was basically a story about how he's gotten to where he is and why he's at Washington. The dude is confident. And the article noted the staff booted Glenn down to director of player development while making the Oregon guy (Henkle?) director of recruiting and a former Michigan guy as director of scouting. Bruce Harrell's daughter is director of on-campus recruiting.
So it sounds like the grown ups are in charge. (Except in the AD's chair, and until that changes, I'm not going to get my hopes up even though I'm doogin more than I have since Peterman first came on board.)
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This is the dumbest shtick. I've followed the program since I was a young child. My entire fucking life basically. There are many others in the same boat. And it's not a comparison about how long we have followed it, but fuck oh dear man. It means a lot or at least something to almost all of us here and the decline of the program along with erosion of college football has made almost all of us care less.Yet here we are still following it, yourself included.chuck said:
Um...wrong and fuck you Roadie. I don't care about his fucking ranking. I leave open the possibility that every player can still come around until they can't with no ranking bias at all. If you actually paid attention to my posts you'd know that.RoadDawg55 said:
It’s over. The high school ranking is the only reason you guys treat him with these kid gloves. .chuck said:
Exactly. He sucks, badly, but his story is not necessarily finished.TheHB said:
I still will give him the benefit of the doubt because he really had not received anything in the form of decent coaching until this spring. He still sucks until he doesn't, but I'd like to see him after a year with Grubb, the murderer of families on vacation.RoadDawg55 said:Huard's a non factor and is was obvious. during his first start. The only QB that has ever played a game that bad since Fouch was maybe Lindquist. It was that bad.
It takes a lot before I'll completely dismiss a player. Huard hasn't had a lot of time to prove he's hopeless. Your assessment of his athletic ability and arm are both wrong and due to your own determination to be right.
We looked pretty good after a couple of shitty years of football and are enjoying it. I know it's your shtick but it's fucking stupid. You are likely right but it's tired man. This isn't Kim and co pumping up Sark or Ty Willingham getting a 4th year. You went to shit holes like Corvallis and Eugene in the 0-12 year. None of us care, but you have spent more money on this shitty program than just about anyone here. We get it, you are rich, but you are a doog like most here, and the obsession/interest with the dodging stuff is only done by retards like you and Boobs. It's corny. You have a script you follow religiously here, but you could say, it's too early to crown Deboer and I didn't like x,y,z about what I saw. Maybe after that you can mention that you never actually make any posts about the football being played and your posts today are the same tired bullshit. We are fans, we want UW to do well, and we are excited about what we saw. I do remember your 15 games prediction about Pete that you pulled outta your ass and he failed miserably in those first 15 games.
We aren't winning the natty and there is probably less than a 1% of Deboer ever winning a title. A lot of guys here have liked the organization and demeanor of DeBoer. Offense ran very smoothly after years of struggle. Defense didn't look all that great and there are some talent issues, mostly because of recruiting misses on both of our lines. Deboer has a good resume, every place or offense he has coached was better when he was there and worse when he left.
Yeah, it could be an overreaction after game one, but so far so good. Your bullshit about it being dooging nonsense really is retarded because everything so far has been good. And since we are fans of the program, we like it to do well and are excited about the progress and the future after game one. Personally, I like what I see, but I'll still stick with 8-9 wins like I did before the season. It is too early. We know we have a better coach and program than we did a year ago. Fuck off. -
Reggie Williams and Shaq Thompson panned out.rodmansrage said:
feels like all the 5*s we? get dont turn out to be 5*s when they get on the field.dannarc said:
He basically said the focus is keeping Washington kids home and dominating California. He noted that the 5-star kids that USC wants will stay home. So what. How many five-star players does UW ever get from anywhere, let alone Southern California. Yet even still, there is so much talent there that UW should be able to stock its program with great players (a lot of them need a year or two in the program to develop -- that's going to be where DeBoner earns his keep).
He didn't really say anything that was surprising or worrisome, imho. It was basically a story about how he's gotten to where he is and why he's at Washington. The dude is confident. And the article noted the staff booted Glenn down to director of player development while making the Oregon guy (Henkle?) director of recruiting and a former Michigan guy as director of scouting. Bruce Harrell's daughter is director of on-campus recruiting.
So it sounds like the grown ups are in charge. (Except in the AD's chair, and until that changes, I'm not going to get my hopes up even though I'm doogin more than I have since Peterman first came on board.)
maybe its coaching, maybe rankings are shit, maybe abundance?
Huard probably won’t.
Smalls never should have been a 5*. That was obvious to everyone except the dawgman guys and tbsr’s that Jack off to rankings.
I can’t think of any others. Kasen williams and Buddha baker were fringe guys that ended up 4*. -
Ideally, every player on the field plays in a way you want them to. And if you're Georgia or Alabama, etc., you have a prayer of recruiting players that might have a prayer of doing so. When you're Washington (and therefore have Washington's upper campus, booster, and fan base support), you're going to have to compromise on something.Kingdome_Urinals said:The worst thing you can say about Huard is that he shows no moxie.
Regardless of the level of coaching he's received or the quality of opponents, Huard has not displayed the rugged mentality a good qb must have.
After that is his relative lack of above average physical traits.
It's like video game characteristics. Every year, there are maybe a dozen players that max out the score in every important attribute, and they're all going to go where they can be paid. Below that, you're going have players who have, say, 5 out of 5 speed but 3/5 size and 4/5 burst. A good coach arranges those pieces on the field to maximal effect.
Short of having a legendary defense and OL/RB, no team is going anywhere without a QB that's good. UW will not pay enough for Trevor Lawrence. They're going to have to make do with a player that doesn't max out a few of the attributes. And this is where I part ways with most on Hardcore Husky.
For some reason, most here place a premium on the big-dick-gunslinger attribute. Morris was amazing for a hot minute because he threw a wobbly touchdown pass and then tapped his veins. Everybody forgets that he played like shit for the three quarters prior, thus necessitating the late winning drive.
To me, the most important characteristics for a quarterback are 1.) Decision making, 2.) Accuracy, 3.) Athleticism, 4.) Moxie. In that order. Browning was not Trevor Lawrence because he lacked category 3 (although sneaky good scrambler) and some might argue category 4, but he was the best quarterback at UW between perhaps Tui and Penis because he was great at category 1 and elite at category 2. Frowns when his kicker misses, though, so everyone hates him...
Morris throws a wobbly, inaccurate ball. Full stop. He's a 2/5 in the accuracy department, so nothing else really matters. I just don't thing that's something that can be fixed.
Huard played perhaps the worst game I've ever seen a starting quarterback play in the Apple Cup. That being said, his arm strength is decent, and he's accurate. Those things are important and can't really be coached. The hope is that the huge deficiency in category 1 (the most important, and thus why his Apple Cup was so abysmal) can either be coached out of him or was at least partially the result of a team that had quit. Point is, there's still at least hope for him, although I wouldn't bet on it. -
Wasn't Kavario Middleton one of the highest ranked recruits of all time to UW? He was a top50 national player.AtomicDawg said:
Reggie Williams and Shaq Thompson panned out.rodmansrage said:
feels like all the 5*s we? get dont turn out to be 5*s when they get on the field.dannarc said:
He basically said the focus is keeping Washington kids home and dominating California. He noted that the 5-star kids that USC wants will stay home. So what. How many five-star players does UW ever get from anywhere, let alone Southern California. Yet even still, there is so much talent there that UW should be able to stock its program with great players (a lot of them need a year or two in the program to develop -- that's going to be where DeBoner earns his keep).
He didn't really say anything that was surprising or worrisome, imho. It was basically a story about how he's gotten to where he is and why he's at Washington. The dude is confident. And the article noted the staff booted Glenn down to director of player development while making the Oregon guy (Henkle?) director of recruiting and a former Michigan guy as director of scouting. Bruce Harrell's daughter is director of on-campus recruiting.
So it sounds like the grown ups are in charge. (Except in the AD's chair, and until that changes, I'm not going to get my hopes up even though I'm doogin more than I have since Peterman first came on board.)
maybe its coaching, maybe rankings are shit, maybe abundance?
Huard probably won’t.
Smalls never should have been a 5*. That was obvious to everyone except the dawgman guys and tbsr’s that Jack off to rankings.
I can’t think of any others. Kasen williams and Buddha baker were fringe guys that ended up 4*. -
Ended as a 4*. He actually had legit talent. No drive or discipline though. He should have made millions.Houhusky said:
Wasn't Kavario Middleton one of the highest ranked recruits of all time to UW? He was a top50 national player.AtomicDawg said:
Reggie Williams and Shaq Thompson panned out.rodmansrage said:
feels like all the 5*s we? get dont turn out to be 5*s when they get on the field.dannarc said:
He basically said the focus is keeping Washington kids home and dominating California. He noted that the 5-star kids that USC wants will stay home. So what. How many five-star players does UW ever get from anywhere, let alone Southern California. Yet even still, there is so much talent there that UW should be able to stock its program with great players (a lot of them need a year or two in the program to develop -- that's going to be where DeBoner earns his keep).
He didn't really say anything that was surprising or worrisome, imho. It was basically a story about how he's gotten to where he is and why he's at Washington. The dude is confident. And the article noted the staff booted Glenn down to director of player development while making the Oregon guy (Henkle?) director of recruiting and a former Michigan guy as director of scouting. Bruce Harrell's daughter is director of on-campus recruiting.
So it sounds like the grown ups are in charge. (Except in the AD's chair, and until that changes, I'm not going to get my hopes up even though I'm doogin more than I have since Peterman first came on board.)
maybe its coaching, maybe rankings are shit, maybe abundance?
Huard probably won’t.
Smalls never should have been a 5*. That was obvious to everyone except the dawgman guys and tbsr’s that Jack off to rankings.
I can’t think of any others. Kasen williams and Buddha baker were fringe guys that ended up 4*. -
Loyal to the Californian soil!BleachedAnusDawg said:
This is the plight of the WA State 5-star.CuntWaffle said:Never recruit a WA state QB again. I would rather have the 50th ranked QB in Texas or Florida than the #1 ranked in WA state.
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WilburHooksHands said:
I think Huard has a chance to start in 2025 with 2 years left but it’s a long road ahead and he has to choose to take it. I’ll give him a full year under DeBoer and Grubb before I write him off entirely but it’s not looking good. Between our coaches and the transfer portal I’m not too worried about QB anymore, which is about the complete opposite place I’ve been since Rick.
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Penix would be great in the XFL?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Penix is actually eligible again next year, but he could go proRoadDawg55 said:
It’s over. The high school ranking is the only reason you guys treat him with these kid gloves.chuck said:
Exactly. He sucks, badly, but his story is not necessarily finished.TheHB said:
I still will give him the benefit of the doubt because he really had not received anything in the form of decent coaching until this spring. He still sucks until he doesn't, but I'd like to see him after a year with Grubb, the murderer of families on vacation.RoadDawg55 said:Huard's a non factor and is was obvious. during his first start. The only QB that has ever played a game that bad since Fouch was maybe Lindquist. It was that bad.
At best he’s a shitty starter in the PAC 12. You’re not winning shit with Sam Huard as your QB. We will have another transfer come in next year or Kienholz will start from day 1 or at least midway thru the season. Huard isn’t even better than Morris. Add it up. DeBoer isn’t going to let Sam Huard be his starting QB.
He’s not a physically talented guy. Average arm. And on top of that, he’s horrible when he does play. -
Morris has a better chance of being a good starter than Huard. If Huard was a run of the mill 3 star QB, he wouldn’t even be mentioned on these boards. The ranking comment was directly directly towards you. There are quite a few on here that pretend it matters and still has relevance.chuck said:
Um...wrong and fuck you Roadie. I don't care about his fucking ranking. I leave open the possibility that every player can still come around until they can't with no ranking bias at all. If you actually paid attention to my posts you'd know that.RoadDawg55 said:
It’s over. The high school ranking is the only reason you guys treat him with these kid gloves. .chuck said:
Exactly. He sucks, badly, but his story is not necessarily finished.TheHB said:
I still will give him the benefit of the doubt because he really had not received anything in the form of decent coaching until this spring. He still sucks until he doesn't, but I'd like to see him after a year with Grubb, the murderer of families on vacation.RoadDawg55 said:Huard's a non factor and is was obvious. during his first start. The only QB that has ever played a game that bad since Fouch was maybe Lindquist. It was that bad.
It takes a lot before I'll completely dismiss a player. Huard hasn't had a lot of time to prove he's hopeless. Your assessment of his athletic ability and arm are both wrong and due to your own determination to be right.
His arm is average. He isn’t a runner so his athleticism is average. He has the weakest arm of our 3 QB’s and it isn’t close. -
Great hands but he probably always ran about a 5.0 40. Not sure he was fast enough to be truly special.AtomicDawg said:
Ended as a 4*. He actually had legit talent. No drive or discipline though. He should have made millions.Houhusky said:
Wasn't Kavario Middleton one of the highest ranked recruits of all time to UW? He was a top50 national player.AtomicDawg said:
Reggie Williams and Shaq Thompson panned out.rodmansrage said:
feels like all the 5*s we? get dont turn out to be 5*s when they get on the field.dannarc said:
He basically said the focus is keeping Washington kids home and dominating California. He noted that the 5-star kids that USC wants will stay home. So what. How many five-star players does UW ever get from anywhere, let alone Southern California. Yet even still, there is so much talent there that UW should be able to stock its program with great players (a lot of them need a year or two in the program to develop -- that's going to be where DeBoner earns his keep).
He didn't really say anything that was surprising or worrisome, imho. It was basically a story about how he's gotten to where he is and why he's at Washington. The dude is confident. And the article noted the staff booted Glenn down to director of player development while making the Oregon guy (Henkle?) director of recruiting and a former Michigan guy as director of scouting. Bruce Harrell's daughter is director of on-campus recruiting.
So it sounds like the grown ups are in charge. (Except in the AD's chair, and until that changes, I'm not going to get my hopes up even though I'm doogin more than I have since Peterman first came on board.)
maybe its coaching, maybe rankings are shit, maybe abundance?
Huard probably won’t.
Smalls never should have been a 5*. That was obvious to everyone except the dawgman guys and tbsr’s that Jack off to rankings.
I can’t think of any others. Kasen williams and Buddha baker were fringe guys that ended up 4*. -
Fans go to games. Cynics complain.RoadDawg55 said:
Great hands but he probably always ran about a 5.0 40. Not sure he was fast enough to be truly special.AtomicDawg said:
Ended as a 4*. He actually had legit talent. No drive or discipline though. He should have made millions.Houhusky said:
Wasn't Kavario Middleton one of the highest ranked recruits of all time to UW? He was a top50 national player.AtomicDawg said:
Reggie Williams and Shaq Thompson panned out.rodmansrage said:
feels like all the 5*s we? get dont turn out to be 5*s when they get on the field.dannarc said:
He basically said the focus is keeping Washington kids home and dominating California. He noted that the 5-star kids that USC wants will stay home. So what. How many five-star players does UW ever get from anywhere, let alone Southern California. Yet even still, there is so much talent there that UW should be able to stock its program with great players (a lot of them need a year or two in the program to develop -- that's going to be where DeBoner earns his keep).
He didn't really say anything that was surprising or worrisome, imho. It was basically a story about how he's gotten to where he is and why he's at Washington. The dude is confident. And the article noted the staff booted Glenn down to director of player development while making the Oregon guy (Henkle?) director of recruiting and a former Michigan guy as director of scouting. Bruce Harrell's daughter is director of on-campus recruiting.
So it sounds like the grown ups are in charge. (Except in the AD's chair, and until that changes, I'm not going to get my hopes up even though I'm doogin more than I have since Peterman first came on board.)
maybe its coaching, maybe rankings are shit, maybe abundance?
Huard probably won’t.
Smalls never should have been a 5*. That was obvious to everyone except the dawgman guys and tbsr’s that Jack off to rankings.
I can’t think of any others. Kasen williams and Buddha baker were fringe guys that ended up 4*.
For regular posters here, seems like a cynic to fan ratio of about 5 to 1.
Oh but I've been sooo burned by PETERMAN, Jen is the WORST, DOOGS SUCK, the Athletic Department is SOO INCOMPETENT.
Get over yourself and go to the game. I swear the old guard here acts like a bunch of too cool adolescents. I'm sure there are some here so jaded that they actually want UW to LOSE on Saturday, but I'm not sure that's many. How about admit that you'd like us to win and get your lazy ass to the game. And quit with the "I've been so heartbroken I just can't care anymore". Seriously, that's your mental toughness level? GET to the GAME.
And yeah, this isn't Softy, isn't Jen, isn't anyone other than a fan whose hung around on this board long enough to feel the need to call your BS. Yes, you. -
GRUNDLE STOpGrundleStiltzkin said:
Fans go to games. Cynics complain.RoadDawg55 said:
Great hands but he probably always ran about a 5.0 40. Not sure he was fast enough to be truly special.AtomicDawg said:
Ended as a 4*. He actually had legit talent. No drive or discipline though. He should have made millions.Houhusky said:
Wasn't Kavario Middleton one of the highest ranked recruits of all time to UW? He was a top50 national player.AtomicDawg said:
Reggie Williams and Shaq Thompson panned out.rodmansrage said:
feels like all the 5*s we? get dont turn out to be 5*s when they get on the field.dannarc said:
He basically said the focus is keeping Washington kids home and dominating California. He noted that the 5-star kids that USC wants will stay home. So what. How many five-star players does UW ever get from anywhere, let alone Southern California. Yet even still, there is so much talent there that UW should be able to stock its program with great players (a lot of them need a year or two in the program to develop -- that's going to be where DeBoner earns his keep).
He didn't really say anything that was surprising or worrisome, imho. It was basically a story about how he's gotten to where he is and why he's at Washington. The dude is confident. And the article noted the staff booted Glenn down to director of player development while making the Oregon guy (Henkle?) director of recruiting and a former Michigan guy as director of scouting. Bruce Harrell's daughter is director of on-campus recruiting.
So it sounds like the grown ups are in charge. (Except in the AD's chair, and until that changes, I'm not going to get my hopes up even though I'm doogin more than I have since Peterman first came on board.)
maybe its coaching, maybe rankings are shit, maybe abundance?
Huard probably won’t.
Smalls never should have been a 5*. That was obvious to everyone except the dawgman guys and tbsr’s that Jack off to rankings.
I can’t think of any others. Kasen williams and Buddha baker were fringe guys that ended up 4*.
For regular posters here, seems like a cynic to fan ratio of about 5 to 1.
Oh but I've been sooo burned by PETERMAN, Jen is the WORST, DOOGS SUCK, the Athletic Department is SOO INCOMPETENT.
Get over yourself and go to the game. I swear the old guard here acts like a bunch of too cool adolescents. I'm sure there are some here so jaded that they actually want UW to LOSE on Saturday, but I'm not sure that's many. How about admit that you'd like us to win and get your lazy ass to the game. And quit with the "I've been so heartbroken I just can't care anymore". Seriously, that's your mental toughness level? GET to the GAME.
And yeah, this isn't Softy, isn't Jen, isn't anyone other than a fan whose hung around on this board long enough to feel the need to call your BS. Yes, you. -
DISAGREE!CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
GRUNDLE STOpGrundleStiltzkin said:
Fans go to games. Cynics complain.RoadDawg55 said:
Great hands but he probably always ran about a 5.0 40. Not sure he was fast enough to be truly special.AtomicDawg said:
Ended as a 4*. He actually had legit talent. No drive or discipline though. He should have made millions.Houhusky said:
Wasn't Kavario Middleton one of the highest ranked recruits of all time to UW? He was a top50 national player.AtomicDawg said:
Reggie Williams and Shaq Thompson panned out.rodmansrage said:
feels like all the 5*s we? get dont turn out to be 5*s when they get on the field.dannarc said:
He basically said the focus is keeping Washington kids home and dominating California. He noted that the 5-star kids that USC wants will stay home. So what. How many five-star players does UW ever get from anywhere, let alone Southern California. Yet even still, there is so much talent there that UW should be able to stock its program with great players (a lot of them need a year or two in the program to develop -- that's going to be where DeBoner earns his keep).
He didn't really say anything that was surprising or worrisome, imho. It was basically a story about how he's gotten to where he is and why he's at Washington. The dude is confident. And the article noted the staff booted Glenn down to director of player development while making the Oregon guy (Henkle?) director of recruiting and a former Michigan guy as director of scouting. Bruce Harrell's daughter is director of on-campus recruiting.
So it sounds like the grown ups are in charge. (Except in the AD's chair, and until that changes, I'm not going to get my hopes up even though I'm doogin more than I have since Peterman first came on board.)
maybe its coaching, maybe rankings are shit, maybe abundance?
Huard probably won’t.
Smalls never should have been a 5*. That was obvious to everyone except the dawgman guys and tbsr’s that Jack off to rankings.
I can’t think of any others. Kasen williams and Buddha baker were fringe guys that ended up 4*.
For regular posters here, seems like a cynic to fan ratio of about 5 to 1.
Oh but I've been sooo burned by PETERMAN, Jen is the WORST, DOOGS SUCK, the Athletic Department is SOO INCOMPETENT.
Get over yourself and go to the game. I swear the old guard here acts like a bunch of too cool adolescents. I'm sure there are some here so jaded that they actually want UW to LOSE on Saturday, but I'm not sure that's many. How about admit that you'd like us to win and get your lazy ass to the game. And quit with the "I've been so heartbroken I just can't care anymore". Seriously, that's your mental toughness level? GET to the GAME.
And yeah, this isn't Softy, isn't Jen, isn't anyone other than a fan whose hung around on this board long enough to feel the need to call your BS. Yes, you.
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I have to disagree with this. Morris has had 2 seasons. Huard had one game, although it was fucking god awful, under maybe the worst offensive scheme and coaching the program has ever seen. LIPO in 2 years.RoadDawg55 said:
Morris has a better chance of being a good starter than Huard.chuck said:
Um...wrong and fuck you Roadie. I don't care about his fucking ranking. I leave open the possibility that every player can still come around until they can't with no ranking bias at all. If you actually paid attention to my posts you'd know that.RoadDawg55 said:
It’s over. The high school ranking is the only reason you guys treat him with these kid gloves. .chuck said:
Exactly. He sucks, badly, but his story is not necessarily finished.TheHB said:
I still will give him the benefit of the doubt because he really had not received anything in the form of decent coaching until this spring. He still sucks until he doesn't, but I'd like to see him after a year with Grubb, the murderer of families on vacation.RoadDawg55 said:Huard's a non factor and is was obvious. during his first start. The only QB that has ever played a game that bad since Fouch was maybe Lindquist. It was that bad.
It takes a lot before I'll completely dismiss a player. Huard hasn't had a lot of time to prove he's hopeless. Your assessment of his athletic ability and arm are both wrong and due to your own determination to be right. -
This is where I'm at as well. Morris is a known...very well known. We just got to see it two weeks ago.WilburHooksHands said:
I have to disagree with this. Morris has had 2 seasons. Huard had one game, although it was fucking god awful, under maybe the worst offensive scheme and coaching the program has ever seen. LIPO in 2 years.RoadDawg55 said:
Morris has a better chance of being a good starter than Huard.chuck said:
Um...wrong and fuck you Roadie. I don't care about his fucking ranking. I leave open the possibility that every player can still come around until they can't with no ranking bias at all. If you actually paid attention to my posts you'd know that.RoadDawg55 said:
It’s over. The high school ranking is the only reason you guys treat him with these kid gloves. .chuck said:
Exactly. He sucks, badly, but his story is not necessarily finished.TheHB said:
I still will give him the benefit of the doubt because he really had not received anything in the form of decent coaching until this spring. He still sucks until he doesn't, but I'd like to see him after a year with Grubb, the murderer of families on vacation.RoadDawg55 said:Huard's a non factor and is was obvious. during his first start. The only QB that has ever played a game that bad since Fouch was maybe Lindquist. It was that bad.
It takes a lot before I'll completely dismiss a player. Huard hasn't had a lot of time to prove he's hopeless. Your assessment of his athletic ability and arm are both wrong and due to your own determination to be right.
When Penix gets hurt, either Huard has had a light bulb come on and UW might finish the season on a reasonable note, or Morris takes over and UW struggles to get bowl eligible. I don't think UW can beat anyone left on the schedule with Morris at QB. -
We can argue about this all we want but at the end of the day are either of them going to be QBs on teams that contend for titles? Probably not. The ceiling for Morris and Huard looks to be middle of the conference type QBs. Game managers, not difference makers. If either of those two is your starting QB you're probably going 7-6.WilburHooksHands said:
I have to disagree with this. Morris has had 2 seasons. Huard had one game, although it was fucking god awful, under maybe the worst offensive scheme and coaching the program has ever seen. LIPO in 2 years.RoadDawg55 said:
Morris has a better chance of being a good starter than Huard.chuck said:
Um...wrong and fuck you Roadie. I don't care about his fucking ranking. I leave open the possibility that every player can still come around until they can't with no ranking bias at all. If you actually paid attention to my posts you'd know that.RoadDawg55 said:
It’s over. The high school ranking is the only reason you guys treat him with these kid gloves. .chuck said:
Exactly. He sucks, badly, but his story is not necessarily finished.TheHB said:
I still will give him the benefit of the doubt because he really had not received anything in the form of decent coaching until this spring. He still sucks until he doesn't, but I'd like to see him after a year with Grubb, the murderer of families on vacation.RoadDawg55 said:Huard's a non factor and is was obvious. during his first start. The only QB that has ever played a game that bad since Fouch was maybe Lindquist. It was that bad.
It takes a lot before I'll completely dismiss a player. Huard hasn't had a lot of time to prove he's hopeless. Your assessment of his athletic ability and arm are both wrong and due to your own determination to be right. -
On teh flip, weº have seen a decent game or two out of Morris, under the same offense/corching constraints. We™ have seen zero from Huard.
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true but morris had 16 gamesGrundleStiltzkin said:On teh flip, weº have seen a decent game or two out of Morris, under the same offense/corching constraints. We™ have seen zero from Huard.
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Morris won the North.WilburHooksHands said:
true but morris had 16 gamesGrundleStiltzkin said:On teh flip, weº have seen a decent game or two out of Morris, under the same offense/corching constraints. We™ have seen zero from Huard.
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In order for UW to win a REAL bowl game/playoff UW has to have an athletic mobile QB. The game has moved on from statues and UW isn't likely to ever have the talent to cover for a statue's deficiencies in an actual big game.louism2wash said:
We can argue about this all we want but at the end of the day are either of them going to be QBs on teams that contend for titles? Probably not. The ceiling for Morris and Huard looks to be middle of the conference type QBs. Game managers, not difference makers. If either of those two is your starting QB you're probably going 7-6.WilburHooksHands said:
I have to disagree with this. Morris has had 2 seasons. Huard had one game, although it was fucking god awful, under maybe the worst offensive scheme and coaching the program has ever seen. LIPO in 2 years.RoadDawg55 said:
Morris has a better chance of being a good starter than Huard.chuck said:
Um...wrong and fuck you Roadie. I don't care about his fucking ranking. I leave open the possibility that every player can still come around until they can't with no ranking bias at all. If you actually paid attention to my posts you'd know that.RoadDawg55 said:
It’s over. The high school ranking is the only reason you guys treat him with these kid gloves. .chuck said:
Exactly. He sucks, badly, but his story is not necessarily finished.TheHB said:
I still will give him the benefit of the doubt because he really had not received anything in the form of decent coaching until this spring. He still sucks until he doesn't, but I'd like to see him after a year with Grubb, the murderer of families on vacation.RoadDawg55 said:Huard's a non factor and is was obvious. during his first start. The only QB that has ever played a game that bad since Fouch was maybe Lindquist. It was that bad.
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I've been championing Penix since last spring. That being said, we need to see him under pressure and leading UW to big wins, before we crown him as NFL-ready. Secondly, unless he has an incredible 2022 season, coming back for another year and proving durability could really help his draft status.
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Colorado? Okay, last year but . . . . . . . . . New coaches.chuck said:
This is where I'm at as well. Morris is a known...very well known. We just got to see it two weeks ago.WilburHooksHands said:
I have to disagree with this. Morris has had 2 seasons. Huard had one game, although it was fucking god awful, under maybe the worst offensive scheme and coaching the program has ever seen. LIPO in 2 years.RoadDawg55 said:
Morris has a better chance of being a good starter than Huard.chuck said:
Um...wrong and fuck you Roadie. I don't care about his fucking ranking. I leave open the possibility that every player can still come around until they can't with no ranking bias at all. If you actually paid attention to my posts you'd know that.RoadDawg55 said:
It’s over. The high school ranking is the only reason you guys treat him with these kid gloves. .chuck said:
Exactly. He sucks, badly, but his story is not necessarily finished.TheHB said:
I still will give him the benefit of the doubt because he really had not received anything in the form of decent coaching until this spring. He still sucks until he doesn't, but I'd like to see him after a year with Grubb, the murderer of families on vacation.RoadDawg55 said:Huard's a non factor and is was obvious. during his first start. The only QB that has ever played a game that bad since Fouch was maybe Lindquist. It was that bad.
It takes a lot before I'll completely dismiss a player. Huard hasn't had a lot of time to prove he's hopeless. Your assessment of his athletic ability and arm are both wrong and due to your own determination to be right.
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You get paid in college now...DerekJohnson said:I've been championing Penix since last spring. That being said, we need to see him under pressure and leading UW to big wins, before we crown him as NFL-ready. Secondly, unless he has an incredible 2022 season, coming back for another year and proving durability could really help his draft status.
His injury history will prevent him from being picked really early next draft unless he leads UW to 11+ wins (he wont). Sign a 250K-500K NIL deal, take out some injury/draft insurance, comeback and maybe he can play himself into the real 1st or 2nd round money.
All of this depends on him actually being good, not just an ok QB that can beat up Portland and Kent.
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Don't give a rat's ass if he is NFL anything - I want him Heisman QB ready and lead UW to some meaningful wins. Screw his afterlifeDerekJohnson said:I've been championing Penix since last spring. That being said, we need to see him under pressure and leading UW to big wins, before we crown him as NFL-ready. Secondly, unless he has an incredible 2022 season, coming back for another year and proving durability could really help his draft status.
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Figured he could have played a few years in the nfl. Off the field stuff was his problem. ASJ was no burner himself.RoadDawg55 said:
Great hands but he probably always ran about a 5.0 40. Not sure he was fast enough to be truly special.AtomicDawg said:
Ended as a 4*. He actually had legit talent. No drive or discipline though. He should have made millions.Houhusky said:
Wasn't Kavario Middleton one of the highest ranked recruits of all time to UW? He was a top50 national player.AtomicDawg said:
Reggie Williams and Shaq Thompson panned out.rodmansrage said:
feels like all the 5*s we? get dont turn out to be 5*s when they get on the field.dannarc said:
He basically said the focus is keeping Washington kids home and dominating California. He noted that the 5-star kids that USC wants will stay home. So what. How many five-star players does UW ever get from anywhere, let alone Southern California. Yet even still, there is so much talent there that UW should be able to stock its program with great players (a lot of them need a year or two in the program to develop -- that's going to be where DeBoner earns his keep).
He didn't really say anything that was surprising or worrisome, imho. It was basically a story about how he's gotten to where he is and why he's at Washington. The dude is confident. And the article noted the staff booted Glenn down to director of player development while making the Oregon guy (Henkle?) director of recruiting and a former Michigan guy as director of scouting. Bruce Harrell's daughter is director of on-campus recruiting.
So it sounds like the grown ups are in charge. (Except in the AD's chair, and until that changes, I'm not going to get my hopes up even though I'm doogin more than I have since Peterman first came on board.)
maybe its coaching, maybe rankings are shit, maybe abundance?
Huard probably won’t.
Smalls never should have been a 5*. That was obvious to everyone except the dawgman guys and tbsr’s that Jack off to rankings.
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Both of those guys could run well enough for their size if they worked on it and stayed in shape...and out of trouble.AtomicDawg said:
Figured he could have played a few years in the nfl. Off the field stuff was his problem. ASJ was no burner himself.RoadDawg55 said:
Great hands but he probably always ran about a 5.0 40. Not sure he was fast enough to be truly special.AtomicDawg said:
Ended as a 4*. He actually had legit talent. No drive or discipline though. He should have made millions.Houhusky said:
Wasn't Kavario Middleton one of the highest ranked recruits of all time to UW? He was a top50 national player.AtomicDawg said:
Reggie Williams and Shaq Thompson panned out.rodmansrage said:
feels like all the 5*s we? get dont turn out to be 5*s when they get on the field.dannarc said:
He basically said the focus is keeping Washington kids home and dominating California. He noted that the 5-star kids that USC wants will stay home. So what. How many five-star players does UW ever get from anywhere, let alone Southern California. Yet even still, there is so much talent there that UW should be able to stock its program with great players (a lot of them need a year or two in the program to develop -- that's going to be where DeBoner earns his keep).
He didn't really say anything that was surprising or worrisome, imho. It was basically a story about how he's gotten to where he is and why he's at Washington. The dude is confident. And the article noted the staff booted Glenn down to director of player development while making the Oregon guy (Henkle?) director of recruiting and a former Michigan guy as director of scouting. Bruce Harrell's daughter is director of on-campus recruiting.
So it sounds like the grown ups are in charge. (Except in the AD's chair, and until that changes, I'm not going to get my hopes up even though I'm doogin more than I have since Peterman first came on board.)
maybe its coaching, maybe rankings are shit, maybe abundance?
Huard probably won’t.
Smalls never should have been a 5*. That was obvious to everyone except the dawgman guys and tbsr’s that Jack off to rankings.
I can’t think of any others. Kasen williams and Buddha baker were fringe guys that ended up 4*. -
Penix is NOT a NFL QB. Zero chance he gets drafted. He is a very good college QB which is fine because I care about how he plays for WASHINGTON…. Not the ducking Bears or Raiders.DerekJohnson said:I've been championing Penix since last spring. That being said, we need to see him under pressure and leading UW to big wins, before we crown him as NFL-ready. Secondly, unless he has an incredible 2022 season, coming back for another year and proving durability could really help his draft status.
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If Jack Brownsox can stick in the league as a practice guy / borderline 3rd stringer, Penix can have his cup of coffee if he stays healthy. Penix has much better NFL measurables/skills.CuntWaffle said:
Penix is NOT a NFL QB. Zero chance he gets drafted. He is a very good college QB which is fine because I care about how he plays for WASHINGTON…. Not the ducking Bears or Raiders.DerekJohnson said:I've been championing Penix since last spring. That being said, we need to see him under pressure and leading UW to big wins, before we crown him as NFL-ready. Secondly, unless he has an incredible 2022 season, coming back for another year and proving durability could really help his draft status.
