I don't hang out in alleys at 2am, firing weapons, run from cops, resist or wrestle cops if detained, act like a dick if pulled over, wear my pants below my ass with a knife in the belt loop, take drugs, etc etc.
I am alive and will continue to be so until I float away to heaven, unlike all of these "Innocent heroes" who all share a common denominator of a mix of the above actions, and forced the cops' hands. None of these dumb azzes would be dead if they just got in the dam car, and none of the stops/confrontations were unwarranted.
I don't hang out in alleys at 2am, firing weapons, run from cops, resist or wrestle cops if detained, act like a dick if pulled over, wear my pants below my ass with a knife in the belt loop, take drugs, etc etc.
I am alive and will continue to be so until I float away to heaven, unlike all of these "Innocent heroes" who all share a common denominator of a mix of the above actions, and forced the cops' hands. None of these dumb azzes would be dead if they just got in the dam car, and none of the stops/confrontations were unwarranted.
What is the point of listing those behaviors? Wouldn't it suffice to list just the behaviors that threaten the cops?
I don't hang out in alleys at 2am, firing weapons, run from cops, resist or wrestle cops if detained, act like a dick if pulled over, wear my pants below my ass with a knife in the belt loop, take drugs, etc etc.
I am alive and will continue to be so until I float away to heaven, unlike all of these "Innocent heroes" who all share a common denominator of a mix of the above actions, and forced the cops' hands. None of these dumb azzes would be dead if they just got in the dam car, and none of the stops/confrontations were unwarranted.
What is the point of listing those behaviors? Wouldn't it suffice to list just the behaviors that threaten the cops?
The behavior was that the cops knew he had a gun. They didn't know he threw it away. It was dark. Still it looks like a bad shooting, just like in Brooklyn Center, but play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Don't resist arrest.
I don't hang out in alleys at 2am, firing weapons, run from cops, resist or wrestle cops if detained, act like a dick if pulled over, wear my pants below my ass with a knife in the belt loop, take drugs, etc etc.
I am alive and will continue to be so until I float away to heaven, unlike all of these "Innocent heroes" who all share a common denominator of a mix of the above actions, and forced the cops' hands. None of these dumb azzes would be dead if they just got in the dam car, and none of the stops/confrontations were unwarranted.
What is the point of listing those behaviors? Wouldn't it suffice to list just the behaviors that threaten the cops?
The only point I would make is that the photo circulating around appears to be a 8 or 9 year old, not 13, and what I saw of the kid on the ground didn't look much like that little kid photo.
2:30 a.m., armed, on a Monday (school) night, accompanying a guy who fired his weapon several times, is not the conduct of the innocent child personal profile the press is pushing. I want facts as much as the next guy, but the lionization of the victims in these cases are a little too much to take and make me care a little less, not more, as a result.
None of this excuses the fuck ups of the cops. But it most certainly undercuts the "hunting" and "execution" narratives.
I don't hang out in alleys at 2am, firing weapons, run from cops, resist or wrestle cops if detained, act like a dick if pulled over, wear my pants below my ass with a knife in the belt loop, take drugs, etc etc.
I am alive and will continue to be so until I float away to heaven, unlike all of these "Innocent heroes" who all share a common denominator of a mix of the above actions, and forced the cops' hands. None of these dumb azzes would be dead if they just got in the dam car, and none of the stops/confrontations were unwarranted.
What is the point of listing those behaviors? Wouldn't it suffice to list just the behaviors that threaten the cops?
The only point I would make is that the photo circulating around appears to be a 8 or 9 year old, not 13, and what I saw of the kid on the ground didn't look much like that little kid photo.
2:30 a.m., armed, on a Monday (school) night, accompanying a guy who fired his weapon several times, is not the conduct of the innocent child personal profile the press is pushing. I want facts as much as the next guy, but the lionization of the victims in these cases are a little too much to take and make me care a little less, not more, as a result.
None of this excuses the fuck ups of the cops. But it most certainly undercuts the "hunting" and "execution" narratives.
I agree. And I also understand that the cops are going to do some profiling to stay alive. We all make assumptions. IDK shit about this case, or care. But the conversation should, IMHO, always be focused on the threatening behavior. Last I checked, it's ok to act like a dick when interacting with a cop. I don't owe that guy any more respect than I do someone who bumps into me at the grocery store. Sure, I myself try to be respectful, but its not required to stay alive. Likewise, you have buffoons walking around Walmart visibly armed to the teeth with weapons that could level the entire store in 20 seconds or less;, so if I want to wear my pants down below my underwear line and have a knife in my beltloop, then I'm going to and it's not a supporting reason for the state to shoot me. Same thing with 2:00 a.m. What the fuck is this, Soviet Russia with the curfews?
So, again, I ask, why do need to list those as factors? I tell ya, this place hasn't been the same since @MikeDamone (RIP) left us. He kept the statists in check.
I don't hang out in alleys at 2am, firing weapons, run from cops, resist or wrestle cops if detained, act like a dick if pulled over, wear my pants below my ass with a knife in the belt loop, take drugs, etc etc.
I am alive and will continue to be so until I float away to heaven, unlike all of these "Innocent heroes" who all share a common denominator of a mix of the above actions, and forced the cops' hands. None of these dumb azzes would be dead if they just got in the dam car, and none of the stops/confrontations were unwarranted.
What is the point of listing those behaviors? Wouldn't it suffice to list just the behaviors that threaten the cops?
The behavior was that the cops knew he had a gun. They didn't know he threw it away. It was dark. Still it looks like a bad shooting, just like in Brooklyn Center, but play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Don't resist arrest.
Then that's pretty much all you gotta say isn't it? If there was a reason they knew he had a gun and reasonably didn't know he dropped it, then if he behaves in a way that indicates he intends to use it, fire away.
But knives in beltloops and 2:00 am and how he wears his pants? You a statist too?
I don't hang out in alleys at 2am, firing weapons, run from cops, resist or wrestle cops if detained, act like a dick if pulled over, wear my pants below my ass with a knife in the belt loop, take drugs, etc etc.
I am alive and will continue to be so until I float away to heaven, unlike all of these "Innocent heroes" who all share a common denominator of a mix of the above actions, and forced the cops' hands. None of these dumb azzes would be dead if they just got in the dam car, and none of the stops/confrontations were unwarranted.
What is the point of listing those behaviors? Wouldn't it suffice to list just the behaviors that threaten the cops?
The only point I would make is that the photo circulating around appears to be a 8 or 9 year old, not 13, and what I saw of the kid on the ground didn't look much like that little kid photo.
2:30 a.m., armed, on a Monday (school) night, accompanying a guy who fired his weapon several times, is not the conduct of the innocent child personal profile the press is pushing. I want facts as much as the next guy, but the lionization of the victims in these cases are a little too much to take and make me care a little less, not more, as a result.
None of this excuses the fuck ups of the cops. But it most certainly undercuts the "hunting" and "execution" narratives.
I agree. And I also understand that the cops are going to do some profiling to stay alive. We all make assumptions. IDK shit about this case, or care. But the conversation should, IMHO, always be focused on the threatening behavior. Last I checked, it's ok to act like a dick when interacting with a cop. I don't owe that guy any more respect than I do someone who bumps into me at the grocery store. Sure, I myself try to be respectful, but its not required to stay alive. Likewise, you have buffoons walking around Walmart visibly armed to the teeth with weapons that could level the entire store in 20 seconds or less;, so if I want to wear my pants down below my underwear line and have a knife in my beltloop, then I'm going to and it's not a supporting reason for the state to shoot me. Same thing with 2:00 a.m. What the fuck is this, Soviet Russia with the curfews?
So, again, I ask, why do need to list those as factors? I tell ya, this place hasn't been the same since @MikeDamone (RIP) left us. He kept the statists in check.
So can cops arrest those resisting arrest? Running from a crime, like shooting a gun at night in a city? Cops serving an arrest warrant for previously resisting arrest and then missing their court date? Let us know. Doesn't mean they get a free shot, but I'm not making a hero out of any of these tools. Not making a hero out of these cops either.
I don't hang out in alleys at 2am, firing weapons, run from cops, resist or wrestle cops if detained, act like a dick if pulled over, wear my pants below my ass with a knife in the belt loop, take drugs, etc etc.
I am alive and will continue to be so until I float away to heaven, unlike all of these "Innocent heroes" who all share a common denominator of a mix of the above actions, and forced the cops' hands. None of these dumb azzes would be dead if they just got in the dam car, and none of the stops/confrontations were unwarranted.
What is the point of listing those behaviors? Wouldn't it suffice to list just the behaviors that threaten the cops?
The only point I would make is that the photo circulating around appears to be a 8 or 9 year old, not 13, and what I saw of the kid on the ground didn't look much like that little kid photo.
2:30 a.m., armed, on a Monday (school) night, accompanying a guy who fired his weapon several times, is not the conduct of the innocent child personal profile the press is pushing. I want facts as much as the next guy, but the lionization of the victims in these cases are a little too much to take and make me care a little less, not more, as a result.
None of this excuses the fuck ups of the cops. But it most certainly undercuts the "hunting" and "execution" narratives.
I agree. And I also understand that the cops are going to do some profiling to stay alive. We all make assumptions. IDK shit about this case, or care. But the conversation should, IMHO, always be focused on the threatening behavior. Last I checked, it's ok to act like a dick when interacting with a cop. I don't owe that guy any more respect than I do someone who bumps into me at the grocery store. Sure, I myself try to be respectful, but its not required to stay alive. Likewise, you have buffoons walking around Walmart visibly armed to the teeth with weapons that could level the entire store in 20 seconds or less;, so if I want to wear my pants down below my underwear line and have a knife in my beltloop, then I'm going to and it's not a supporting reason for the state to shoot me. Same thing with 2:00 a.m. What the fuck is this, Soviet Russia with the curfews?
So, again, I ask, why do need to list those as factors? I tell ya, this place hasn't been the same since @MikeDamone (RIP) left us. He kept the statists in check.
So can cops arrest those resisting arrest? Running from a crime, like shooting a gun at night in a city? Cops serving an arrest warrant for previously resisting arrest and then missing their court date? Let us know. Doesn't mean they get a free shot, but I'm not making a hero out of any of these tools. Not making a hero out of these cops either.
Yes.
Now a question for you. Can the cops shoot somebody on the basis of how they wear their pants? Even partially on the basis of how they wear their pants? Would the way they wear their pants ever tilt in the favor of the cop's discretion to shoot, all things being equal?
I'm always surprised that the guys who hate the government the most so often vociferously defend the most pure expression of government force.
I'm assuming the cops here weren't focused on where this kid's waistline was before shooting; but at least one person here thinks that's a relevant consideration.
I don't hang out in alleys at 2am, firing weapons, run from cops, resist or wrestle cops if detained, act like a dick if pulled over, wear my pants below my ass with a knife in the belt loop, take drugs, etc etc.
I am alive and will continue to be so until I float away to heaven, unlike all of these "Innocent heroes" who all share a common denominator of a mix of the above actions, and forced the cops' hands. None of these dumb azzes would be dead if they just got in the dam car, and none of the stops/confrontations were unwarranted.
What is the point of listing those behaviors? Wouldn't it suffice to list just the behaviors that threaten the cops?
The only point I would make is that the photo circulating around appears to be a 8 or 9 year old, not 13, and what I saw of the kid on the ground didn't look much like that little kid photo.
2:30 a.m., armed, on a Monday (school) night, accompanying a guy who fired his weapon several times, is not the conduct of the innocent child personal profile the press is pushing. I want facts as much as the next guy, but the lionization of the victims in these cases are a little too much to take and make me care a little less, not more, as a result.
None of this excuses the fuck ups of the cops. But it most certainly undercuts the "hunting" and "execution" narratives.
I agree. And I also understand that the cops are going to do some profiling to stay alive. We all make assumptions. IDK shit about this case, or care. But the conversation should, IMHO, always be focused on the threatening behavior. Last I checked, it's ok to act like a dick when interacting with a cop. I don't owe that guy any more respect than I do someone who bumps into me at the grocery store. Sure, I myself try to be respectful, but its not required to stay alive. Likewise, you have buffoons walking around Walmart visibly armed to the teeth with weapons that could level the entire store in 20 seconds or less;, so if I want to wear my pants down below my underwear line and have a knife in my beltloop, then I'm going to and it's not a supporting reason for the state to shoot me. Same thing with 2:00 a.m. What the fuck is this, Soviet Russia with the curfews?
So, again, I ask, why do need to list those as factors? I tell ya, this place hasn't been the same since @MikeDamone (RIP) left us. He kept the statists in check.
So can cops arrest those resisting arrest? Running from a crime, like shooting a gun at night in a city? Cops serving an arrest warrant for previously resisting arrest and then missing their court date? Let us know. Doesn't mean they get a free shot, but I'm not making a hero out of any of these tools. Not making a hero out of these cops either.
Yes.
Now a question for you. Can the cops shoot somebody on the basis of how they wear their pants? Even partially on the basis of how they wear their pants? Would the way they wear their pants ever tilt in the favor of the cop's discretion to shoot, all things being equal?
I'm always surprised that the guys who hate the government the most so often vociferously defend the most pure expression of government force.
I'm assuming the cops here weren't focused on where this kid's waistline was before shooting; but at least one person here thinks that's a relevant consideration.
I don't care how they are dressed. I care about the resisting arrest part. I couldn't have been more clear about that. The "taser" shooting and the kid with his hands in the air look like bad shootings. But this wouldn't have happened if the resisting arrest part hadn't come into play. Right now it seems a large percentage of the black community thinks that they have a right to resist arrest and that doing so makes you a hero.
I don't hang out in alleys at 2am, firing weapons, run from cops, resist or wrestle cops if detained, act like a dick if pulled over, wear my pants below my ass with a knife in the belt loop, take drugs, etc etc.
I am alive and will continue to be so until I float away to heaven, unlike all of these "Innocent heroes" who all share a common denominator of a mix of the above actions, and forced the cops' hands. None of these dumb azzes would be dead if they just got in the dam car, and none of the stops/confrontations were unwarranted.
What is the point of listing those behaviors? Wouldn't it suffice to list just the behaviors that threaten the cops?
The behavior was that the cops knew he had a gun. They didn't know he threw it away. It was dark. Still it looks like a bad shooting, just like in Brooklyn Center, but play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Don't resist arrest.
Then that's pretty much all you gotta say isn't it? If there was a reason they knew he had a gun and reasonably didn't know he dropped it, then if he behaves in a way that indicates he intends to use it, fire away.
But knives in beltloops and 2:00 am and how he wears his pants? You a statist too?
Profiling is wrong, as is prejudice. But it's part of our innate survival instincts that we wouldn't survive as a species without. It's built in and it's one of those things we need to stay aware of and occasionally check ourselves about.
But today, in this "race is everything" environment, I am daily profiled as rich, white, privileged, Republican, racist, sexist, whatever. You name the derogatory terms and I guarantee I fit a dozen or more of them on any given day.
When I hear "white America" I can only laugh at the incredible ignorance of such a statement. You think Germans and French get along? How about Germans and Brits? How about Russians and every other country they occupied during the cold war? You think those fuckers are allies because they're all white? Think again, folks.
This one looked like a bad, unjustified shooting from the jump, even though the kid was a little punk, by all indications. And trigger happy cops have been a problem for a long time.
But the language we use, pregnant with bogus assumptions, is not going to help us sort this shit out. And with kindergarteners being mentally assaulted daily with CRT based bullshit - the result of which is hate - I'm not optimistic these problems are going to go away or get better anytime soon. I fear just the opposite.
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I care when cops kill white people
You don’t think.
Should they be killed for it? No.
Does their behavior and bad choices increase the chances of them getting killed? Mm-Hmm.
Seems someone is pouring has on the riot train. CBS cropped the gun out!
Kid had a gun Threw it over a fence... turned around and the typical dirty fucking cop shot him. Serve and protect....his pension
Awesome. #defund
Why would a news service crop video?
Anyway thanks for admitting you lied
What is the point of listing those behaviors? Wouldn't it suffice to list just the behaviors that threaten the cops?
2:30 a.m., armed, on a Monday (school) night, accompanying a guy who fired his weapon several times, is not the conduct of the innocent child personal profile the press is pushing. I want facts as much as the next guy, but the lionization of the victims in these cases are a little too much to take and make me care a little less, not more, as a result.
None of this excuses the fuck ups of the cops. But it most certainly undercuts the "hunting" and "execution" narratives.
So, again, I ask, why do need to list those as factors? I tell ya, this place hasn't been the same since @MikeDamone (RIP) left us. He kept the statists in check.
But knives in beltloops and 2:00 am and how he wears his pants? You a statist too?
Now a question for you. Can the cops shoot somebody on the basis of how they wear their pants? Even partially on the basis of how they wear their pants? Would the way they wear their pants ever tilt in the favor of the cop's discretion to shoot, all things being equal?
I'm always surprised that the guys who hate the government the most so often vociferously defend the most pure expression of government force.
I'm assuming the cops here weren't focused on where this kid's waistline was before shooting; but at least one person here thinks that's a relevant consideration.
But today, in this "race is everything" environment, I am daily profiled as rich, white, privileged, Republican, racist, sexist, whatever. You name the derogatory terms and I guarantee I fit a dozen or more of them on any given day.
When I hear "white America" I can only laugh at the incredible ignorance of such a statement. You think Germans and French get along? How about Germans and Brits? How about Russians and every other country they occupied during the cold war? You think those fuckers are allies because they're all white? Think again, folks.
This one looked like a bad, unjustified shooting from the jump, even though the kid was a little punk, by all indications. And trigger happy cops have been a problem for a long time.
But the language we use, pregnant with bogus assumptions, is not going to help us sort this shit out. And with kindergarteners being mentally assaulted daily with CRT based bullshit - the result of which is hate - I'm not optimistic these problems are going to go away or get better anytime soon. I fear just the opposite.