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Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that stores will remain open and serve the public IF they can make money doing so. Failure to protect private property means less private property. Less investment means fewer jobs. Pretty basic stuff that most people recognize at a fundamental level. Question is whether virtue signaling to peers is more important. In Portland, SF and Seattle it clearly is. SF has 6 million of empty office space as a result of blue state politics. Nothing is going to be built in huge swaths of these cities.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/philmatier/amp/Rampant-shoplifting-leads-to-another-Walgreens-15654730.php

Rampant shoplifting leads to another Walgreens closing in S.F.

After months of seeing its shelves repeatedly cleaned out by brazen shoplifters, the Walgreens at Van Ness and Eddy in San Francisco is getting ready to close.

“The last day is Nov. 11,” Walgreens spokesman Phil Caruso said.

The drugstore, which serves many older people who live in the Opera Plaza area, is the seventh Walgreens to close in the city since 2019.

“All of us knew it was coming. Whenever we go in there, they always have problems with shoplifters, ” said longtime customer Sebastian Luke, who lives a block away and is a frequent customer who has been posting photos of the thefts for months. The other day, Luke photographed a man casually clearing a couple of shelves and placing the goods into a backpack.

“I feel sorry for the clerks, they are regularly being verbally assaulted,” Luke said. “The clerks say there is nothing they can do. They say Walgreens’ policy is to not get involved. They don’t want anyone getting injured or getting sued, so the guys just keep coming in and taking whatever they want.”

For security reasons, Walgreens declined to provide details on their security policies, but Caruso did say that “the safety of our team members and customers is our top concern.”

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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,717
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    "I refuse to work for this socialist city council and their political agenda. This agenda sacrifices the health and well-being of the officers and ultimately will destroy the fabric of this once fine city,” explained an outgoing patrol sergeant who had decided to retire after more than two decades with SPD, according to the report.

    https://foxnews.com/us/seattle-police-department-retire-resign-political-agenda
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that stores will remain open and serve the public IF they can make money doing so. Failure to protect private property means less private property. Less investment means fewer jobs. Pretty basic stuff that most people recognize at a fundamental level. Question is whether virtue signaling to peers is more important. In Portland, SF and Seattle it clearly is. SF has 6 million of empty office space as a result of blue state politics. Nothing is going to be built in huge swaths of these cities.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/philmatier/amp/Rampant-shoplifting-leads-to-another-Walgreens-15654730.php

    Rampant shoplifting leads to another Walgreens closing in S.F.

    After months of seeing its shelves repeatedly cleaned out by brazen shoplifters, the Walgreens at Van Ness and Eddy in San Francisco is getting ready to close.

    “The last day is Nov. 11,” Walgreens spokesman Phil Caruso said.

    The drugstore, which serves many older people who live in the Opera Plaza area, is the seventh Walgreens to close in the city since 2019.

    “All of us knew it was coming. Whenever we go in there, they always have problems with shoplifters, ” said longtime customer Sebastian Luke, who lives a block away and is a frequent customer who has been posting photos of the thefts for months. The other day, Luke photographed a man casually clearing a couple of shelves and placing the goods into a backpack.

    “I feel sorry for the clerks, they are regularly being verbally assaulted,” Luke said. “The clerks say there is nothing they can do. They say Walgreens’ policy is to not get involved. They don’t want anyone getting injured or getting sued, so the guys just keep coming in and taking whatever they want.”

    For security reasons, Walgreens declined to provide details on their security policies, but Caruso did say that “the safety of our team members and customers is our top concern.”

    Between Covid the homeless and rampant theft on account of the fact that we no longer prosecute crime in California and especially in SF this is happening to hundreds of stores in SF. Small grocery, and drug stores and restaurants that have opened up in order to cater to the residential high rise market that has gone up in downtown, South of Market SF, are closing their doors.

    People are moving out of the city and many of the businesses that had large office foot prints in SF like Twitter and LinkedIn and Uber are never returning to anything near the scale they once had. My company had four floors of a South of Market high-rise, we're probably going to keep two of those floors after our current lease expires.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,658
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    SFGbob said:

    Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that stores will remain open and serve the public IF they can make money doing so. Failure to protect private property means less private property. Less investment means fewer jobs. Pretty basic stuff that most people recognize at a fundamental level. Question is whether virtue signaling to peers is more important. In Portland, SF and Seattle it clearly is. SF has 6 million of empty office space as a result of blue state politics. Nothing is going to be built in huge swaths of these cities.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/philmatier/amp/Rampant-shoplifting-leads-to-another-Walgreens-15654730.php

    Rampant shoplifting leads to another Walgreens closing in S.F.

    After months of seeing its shelves repeatedly cleaned out by brazen shoplifters, the Walgreens at Van Ness and Eddy in San Francisco is getting ready to close.

    “The last day is Nov. 11,” Walgreens spokesman Phil Caruso said.

    The drugstore, which serves many older people who live in the Opera Plaza area, is the seventh Walgreens to close in the city since 2019.

    “All of us knew it was coming. Whenever we go in there, they always have problems with shoplifters, ” said longtime customer Sebastian Luke, who lives a block away and is a frequent customer who has been posting photos of the thefts for months. The other day, Luke photographed a man casually clearing a couple of shelves and placing the goods into a backpack.

    “I feel sorry for the clerks, they are regularly being verbally assaulted,” Luke said. “The clerks say there is nothing they can do. They say Walgreens’ policy is to not get involved. They don’t want anyone getting injured or getting sued, so the guys just keep coming in and taking whatever they want.”

    For security reasons, Walgreens declined to provide details on their security policies, but Caruso did say that “the safety of our team members and customers is our top concern.”

    Between Covid the homeless and rampant theft on account of the fact that we no longer prosecute crime in California and especially in SF this is happening to hundreds of stores in SF. Small grocery, and drug stores and restaurants that have opened up in order to cater to the residential high rise market that has gone up in downtown, South of Market SF, are closing their doors.

    People are moving out of the city and many of the businesses that had large office foot prints in SF like Twitter and LinkedIn and Uber are never returning to anything near the scale they once had. My company had four floors of a South of Market high-rise, we're probably going to keep two of those floors after our current lease expires.
    Downtown SF is going to look like The Omega Man.

  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,658
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    In defense of NYC becoming a shit hole as well - the last time it was uninhabitable, that begat the porn industry....which is nice.
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,226
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    "I refuse to work for this socialist city council and their political agenda. This agenda sacrifices the health and well-being of the officers and ultimately will destroy the fabric of this once fine city,” explained an outgoing patrol sergeant who had decided to retire after more than two decades with SPD, according to the report.

    https://foxnews.com/us/seattle-police-department-retire-resign-political-agenda

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/77172/seattle-becoming-detroit/p1
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 5,304
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    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that stores will remain open and serve the public IF they can make money doing so. Failure to protect private property means less private property. Less investment means fewer jobs. Pretty basic stuff that most people recognize at a fundamental level. Question is whether virtue signaling to peers is more important. In Portland, SF and Seattle it clearly is. SF has 6 million of empty office space as a result of blue state politics. Nothing is going to be built in huge swaths of these cities.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/philmatier/amp/Rampant-shoplifting-leads-to-another-Walgreens-15654730.php

    Rampant shoplifting leads to another Walgreens closing in S.F.

    After months of seeing its shelves repeatedly cleaned out by brazen shoplifters, the Walgreens at Van Ness and Eddy in San Francisco is getting ready to close.

    “The last day is Nov. 11,” Walgreens spokesman Phil Caruso said.

    The drugstore, which serves many older people who live in the Opera Plaza area, is the seventh Walgreens to close in the city since 2019.

    “All of us knew it was coming. Whenever we go in there, they always have problems with shoplifters, ” said longtime customer Sebastian Luke, who lives a block away and is a frequent customer who has been posting photos of the thefts for months. The other day, Luke photographed a man casually clearing a couple of shelves and placing the goods into a backpack.

    “I feel sorry for the clerks, they are regularly being verbally assaulted,” Luke said. “The clerks say there is nothing they can do. They say Walgreens’ policy is to not get involved. They don’t want anyone getting injured or getting sued, so the guys just keep coming in and taking whatever they want.”

    For security reasons, Walgreens declined to provide details on their security policies, but Caruso did say that “the safety of our team members and customers is our top concern.”

    Between Covid the homeless and rampant theft on account of the fact that we no longer prosecute crime in California and especially in SF this is happening to hundreds of stores in SF. Small grocery, and drug stores and restaurants that have opened up in order to cater to the residential high rise market that has gone up in downtown, South of Market SF, are closing their doors.

    People are moving out of the city and many of the businesses that had large office foot prints in SF like Twitter and LinkedIn and Uber are never returning to anything near the scale they once had. My company had four floors of a South of Market high-rise, we're probably going to keep two of those floors after our current lease expires.
    Downtown SF is going to look like The Omega Man.


    Every time I go through that mid-Market, Civic Center area or around Court of Appeals, and Federal building South of Market I think it can't get any worse than this. and then it does. Junkies shooting up and passed out on the side walk with a needle still sticking out of his arm, surrounded my human shit and piss right outside of State and Federal courthouses. Tents and garbage everywhere. It's like I'm no longer in an American city.
    Yeah the TL is a mess even in covid the zombies didn't stop... pure insanity... only time it cleared out was when Matrix was filming and even then, they just over them a few blocks.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 5,304
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    RoadTrip said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that stores will remain open and serve the public IF they can make money doing so. Failure to protect private property means less private property. Less investment means fewer jobs. Pretty basic stuff that most people recognize at a fundamental level. Question is whether virtue signaling to peers is more important. In Portland, SF and Seattle it clearly is. SF has 6 million of empty office space as a result of blue state politics. Nothing is going to be built in huge swaths of these cities.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/philmatier/amp/Rampant-shoplifting-leads-to-another-Walgreens-15654730.php

    Rampant shoplifting leads to another Walgreens closing in S.F.

    After months of seeing its shelves repeatedly cleaned out by brazen shoplifters, the Walgreens at Van Ness and Eddy in San Francisco is getting ready to close.

    “The last day is Nov. 11,” Walgreens spokesman Phil Caruso said.

    The drugstore, which serves many older people who live in the Opera Plaza area, is the seventh Walgreens to close in the city since 2019.

    “All of us knew it was coming. Whenever we go in there, they always have problems with shoplifters, ” said longtime customer Sebastian Luke, who lives a block away and is a frequent customer who has been posting photos of the thefts for months. The other day, Luke photographed a man casually clearing a couple of shelves and placing the goods into a backpack.

    “I feel sorry for the clerks, they are regularly being verbally assaulted,” Luke said. “The clerks say there is nothing they can do. They say Walgreens’ policy is to not get involved. They don’t want anyone getting injured or getting sued, so the guys just keep coming in and taking whatever they want.”

    For security reasons, Walgreens declined to provide details on their security policies, but Caruso did say that “the safety of our team members and customers is our top concern.”

    Between Covid the homeless and rampant theft on account of the fact that we no longer prosecute crime in California and especially in SF this is happening to hundreds of stores in SF. Small grocery, and drug stores and restaurants that have opened up in order to cater to the residential high rise market that has gone up in downtown, South of Market SF, are closing their doors.

    People are moving out of the city and many of the businesses that had large office foot prints in SF like Twitter and LinkedIn and Uber are never returning to anything near the scale they once had. My company had four floors of a South of Market high-rise, we're probably going to keep two of those floors after our current lease expires.
    Downtown SF is going to look like The Omega Man.


    Every time I go through that mid-Market, Civic Center area or around Court of Appeals, and Federal building South of Market I think it can't get any worse than this. and then it does. Junkies shooting up and passed out on the side walk with a needle still sticking out of his arm, surrounded my human shit and piss right outside of State and Federal courthouses. Tents and garbage everywhere. It's like I'm no longer in an American city.
    Fuck SF...I just won't go there anymore. Parents of my kids various sports teams have all agreed we simply refuse to travel into the bay area anymore. I used to have several clients in downtown SF. All of them left and not just the city but the state itself....but, but, but, big tech. Yeah tell me about all those foreigners with H-1B status. CA is eating itself alive.
    If you stay away from the Nasty areas you are fine...
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,796
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    "I refuse to work for this socialist city council and their political agenda. This agenda sacrifices the health and well-being of the officers and ultimately will destroy the fabric of this once fine city,” explained an outgoing patrol sergeant who had decided to retire after more than two decades with SPD, according to the report.

    https://foxnews.com/us/seattle-police-department-retire-resign-political-agenda

    Read that this morning. Pretty damn depressing.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    In defense of NYC becoming a shit hole as well - the last time it was uninhabitable, that begat the porn industry....which is nice.

    I'm too young to have experienced NYC in the early to mid-70s but I'd bet you a large sum they didn't allow people to just shit on the sidewalk and shoot up right outside their court houses
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    Goduckies said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that stores will remain open and serve the public IF they can make money doing so. Failure to protect private property means less private property. Less investment means fewer jobs. Pretty basic stuff that most people recognize at a fundamental level. Question is whether virtue signaling to peers is more important. In Portland, SF and Seattle it clearly is. SF has 6 million of empty office space as a result of blue state politics. Nothing is going to be built in huge swaths of these cities.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/philmatier/amp/Rampant-shoplifting-leads-to-another-Walgreens-15654730.php

    Rampant shoplifting leads to another Walgreens closing in S.F.

    After months of seeing its shelves repeatedly cleaned out by brazen shoplifters, the Walgreens at Van Ness and Eddy in San Francisco is getting ready to close.

    “The last day is Nov. 11,” Walgreens spokesman Phil Caruso said.

    The drugstore, which serves many older people who live in the Opera Plaza area, is the seventh Walgreens to close in the city since 2019.

    “All of us knew it was coming. Whenever we go in there, they always have problems with shoplifters, ” said longtime customer Sebastian Luke, who lives a block away and is a frequent customer who has been posting photos of the thefts for months. The other day, Luke photographed a man casually clearing a couple of shelves and placing the goods into a backpack.

    “I feel sorry for the clerks, they are regularly being verbally assaulted,” Luke said. “The clerks say there is nothing they can do. They say Walgreens’ policy is to not get involved. They don’t want anyone getting injured or getting sued, so the guys just keep coming in and taking whatever they want.”

    For security reasons, Walgreens declined to provide details on their security policies, but Caruso did say that “the safety of our team members and customers is our top concern.”

    Between Covid the homeless and rampant theft on account of the fact that we no longer prosecute crime in California and especially in SF this is happening to hundreds of stores in SF. Small grocery, and drug stores and restaurants that have opened up in order to cater to the residential high rise market that has gone up in downtown, South of Market SF, are closing their doors.

    People are moving out of the city and many of the businesses that had large office foot prints in SF like Twitter and LinkedIn and Uber are never returning to anything near the scale they once had. My company had four floors of a South of Market high-rise, we're probably going to keep two of those floors after our current lease expires.
    Downtown SF is going to look like The Omega Man.


    Every time I go through that mid-Market, Civic Center area or around Court of Appeals, and Federal building South of Market I think it can't get any worse than this. and then it does. Junkies shooting up and passed out on the side walk with a needle still sticking out of his arm, surrounded my human shit and piss right outside of State and Federal courthouses. Tents and garbage everywhere. It's like I'm no longer in an American city.
    Yeah the TL is a mess even in covid the zombies didn't stop... pure insanity... only time it cleared out was when Matrix was filming and even then, they just over them a few blocks.
    The filth and squalor aren't just limited to the Loin. There's tents and shit and junkies and open air drug dealing all over the mid-Market area well South of Market and outside the TL.
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,162
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    Goduckies said:

    RoadTrip said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that stores will remain open and serve the public IF they can make money doing so. Failure to protect private property means less private property. Less investment means fewer jobs. Pretty basic stuff that most people recognize at a fundamental level. Question is whether virtue signaling to peers is more important. In Portland, SF and Seattle it clearly is. SF has 6 million of empty office space as a result of blue state politics. Nothing is going to be built in huge swaths of these cities.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/philmatier/amp/Rampant-shoplifting-leads-to-another-Walgreens-15654730.php

    Rampant shoplifting leads to another Walgreens closing in S.F.

    After months of seeing its shelves repeatedly cleaned out by brazen shoplifters, the Walgreens at Van Ness and Eddy in San Francisco is getting ready to close.

    “The last day is Nov. 11,” Walgreens spokesman Phil Caruso said.

    The drugstore, which serves many older people who live in the Opera Plaza area, is the seventh Walgreens to close in the city since 2019.

    “All of us knew it was coming. Whenever we go in there, they always have problems with shoplifters, ” said longtime customer Sebastian Luke, who lives a block away and is a frequent customer who has been posting photos of the thefts for months. The other day, Luke photographed a man casually clearing a couple of shelves and placing the goods into a backpack.

    “I feel sorry for the clerks, they are regularly being verbally assaulted,” Luke said. “The clerks say there is nothing they can do. They say Walgreens’ policy is to not get involved. They don’t want anyone getting injured or getting sued, so the guys just keep coming in and taking whatever they want.”

    For security reasons, Walgreens declined to provide details on their security policies, but Caruso did say that “the safety of our team members and customers is our top concern.”

    Between Covid the homeless and rampant theft on account of the fact that we no longer prosecute crime in California and especially in SF this is happening to hundreds of stores in SF. Small grocery, and drug stores and restaurants that have opened up in order to cater to the residential high rise market that has gone up in downtown, South of Market SF, are closing their doors.

    People are moving out of the city and many of the businesses that had large office foot prints in SF like Twitter and LinkedIn and Uber are never returning to anything near the scale they once had. My company had four floors of a South of Market high-rise, we're probably going to keep two of those floors after our current lease expires.
    Downtown SF is going to look like The Omega Man.


    Every time I go through that mid-Market, Civic Center area or around Court of Appeals, and Federal building South of Market I think it can't get any worse than this. and then it does. Junkies shooting up and passed out on the side walk with a needle still sticking out of his arm, surrounded my human shit and piss right outside of State and Federal courthouses. Tents and garbage everywhere. It's like I'm no longer in an American city.
    Fuck SF...I just won't go there anymore. Parents of my kids various sports teams have all agreed we simply refuse to travel into the bay area anymore. I used to have several clients in downtown SF. All of them left and not just the city but the state itself....but, but, but, big tech. Yeah tell me about all those foreigners with H-1B status. CA is eating itself alive.
    If you stay away from the Nasty areas you are fine...
    Your car gets broken into everywhere though. It's happened to me twice.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,919
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    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    RoadTrip said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that stores will remain open and serve the public IF they can make money doing so. Failure to protect private property means less private property. Less investment means fewer jobs. Pretty basic stuff that most people recognize at a fundamental level. Question is whether virtue signaling to peers is more important. In Portland, SF and Seattle it clearly is. SF has 6 million of empty office space as a result of blue state politics. Nothing is going to be built in huge swaths of these cities.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/philmatier/amp/Rampant-shoplifting-leads-to-another-Walgreens-15654730.php

    Rampant shoplifting leads to another Walgreens closing in S.F.

    After months of seeing its shelves repeatedly cleaned out by brazen shoplifters, the Walgreens at Van Ness and Eddy in San Francisco is getting ready to close.

    “The last day is Nov. 11,” Walgreens spokesman Phil Caruso said.

    The drugstore, which serves many older people who live in the Opera Plaza area, is the seventh Walgreens to close in the city since 2019.

    “All of us knew it was coming. Whenever we go in there, they always have problems with shoplifters, ” said longtime customer Sebastian Luke, who lives a block away and is a frequent customer who has been posting photos of the thefts for months. The other day, Luke photographed a man casually clearing a couple of shelves and placing the goods into a backpack.

    “I feel sorry for the clerks, they are regularly being verbally assaulted,” Luke said. “The clerks say there is nothing they can do. They say Walgreens’ policy is to not get involved. They don’t want anyone getting injured or getting sued, so the guys just keep coming in and taking whatever they want.”

    For security reasons, Walgreens declined to provide details on their security policies, but Caruso did say that “the safety of our team members and customers is our top concern.”

    Between Covid the homeless and rampant theft on account of the fact that we no longer prosecute crime in California and especially in SF this is happening to hundreds of stores in SF. Small grocery, and drug stores and restaurants that have opened up in order to cater to the residential high rise market that has gone up in downtown, South of Market SF, are closing their doors.

    People are moving out of the city and many of the businesses that had large office foot prints in SF like Twitter and LinkedIn and Uber are never returning to anything near the scale they once had. My company had four floors of a South of Market high-rise, we're probably going to keep two of those floors after our current lease expires.
    Downtown SF is going to look like The Omega Man.


    Every time I go through that mid-Market, Civic Center area or around Court of Appeals, and Federal building South of Market I think it can't get any worse than this. and then it does. Junkies shooting up and passed out on the side walk with a needle still sticking out of his arm, surrounded my human shit and piss right outside of State and Federal courthouses. Tents and garbage everywhere. It's like I'm no longer in an American city.
    Fuck SF...I just won't go there anymore. Parents of my kids various sports teams have all agreed we simply refuse to travel into the bay area anymore. I used to have several clients in downtown SF. All of them left and not just the city but the state itself....but, but, but, big tech. Yeah tell me about all those foreigners with H-1B status. CA is eating itself alive.
    If you stay away from the Nasty areas you are fine...
    Your car gets broken into everywhere though. It's happened to me twice.
    That is true. If you leave anything in your car, no matter what part of town you're in, your window will be smashed and what was in your car will be gone. Some of the worsts parts of town are where the tourists congregate. Golden Gate Bridge Observation parking lot. Golden Gate Park, Fisherman's Wharf.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 5,304
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    Breakins, yes... everywhere thanks to measure 47... worst bill ever. As to rest of the city and homeless, yes they aren't limited to the TL, but most of the areas people want to visit in the city are fine
  • HuskyJWHuskyJW Guest, Member Posts: 14,161
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    "I refuse to work for this socialist city council and their political agenda. This agenda sacrifices the health and well-being of the officers and ultimately will destroy the fabric of this once fine city,” explained an outgoing patrol sergeant who had decided to retire after more than two decades with SPD, according to the report.

    https://foxnews.com/us/seattle-police-department-retire-resign-political-agenda
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