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  • incremetal_progressincremetal_progress Member Posts: 358

    3.4 ser pent is straight fear mongering. It's under half a percent. It might be .2 percent or less.

    I don't think it's there yet. But if we get a legit treatmentt and do a better job protecting care centers it'll probably be around .2
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter

    Yep. It hates hispanics who tend to live together with more people per household, including abuelos and abeulas, than white people. And don't get me started on how much the chicom crud hates people who use the NYC subway.

    #Diversity is our Strength. COVAD's Too.

    Last thing we need is a phobic pandemic that excludes people. #InclusiveMassDeaths
    Seems like just last month Trumps Coronavirus task force was criticized for lack of diversity.
    Clearly the virus is racist for not equitably killing enough colors of the rainbow.

    Fucking Trump. Can't do anything right.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    The goal of the shut down has been been met.

    If the goal posts have been moved to waiting for a vaccine for a virus that has a .2 - .6% death rate (overwhelming elderly who have health issues), we will do this until a great depression kills millions worldwide. This is not a reasonable option and will destroy lives, communities, and our country long term.

    We are never going to wait out the virus. That is not a possibility. We can only manage the rate it spreads, and do everything we can to protect the most vulnerable. But we all know an economic collapse will kill far more than this virus.

    We need to get back to living and be very diligent with nursing homes and other vulnerable people.

    But this zero tolerance policy that has us in an indefinite economic shut down because "if it saves one life..." will lead to civil unrest when the economy completely collapses.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    We’ve shifted from trying to stop massive number of short term death to stopping all infections, an impossibility.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,115 Standard Supporter


    The goal of the shut down has been been met.

    If the goal posts have been moved to waiting for a vaccine for a virus that has a .2 - .6% death rate (overwhelming elderly who have health issues), we will do this until a great depression kills millions worldwide. This is not a reasonable option and will destroy lives, communities, and our country long term.




    Americans are dumb but they aren't stupid.

    This won't be a problem in 10 days. You're going to start seeing massive protests and people just going back to their normal life.

    The responses by the E. WA sheriffs/counties was the tip of the iceberg. Spokane County will fold in about 10 to 12 days and join the rest (more wannabe progs in Spokane than, say, Moses Lake - playing the political game), then it's just a matter of time before Clark, Pierce and Snoho fall behind. King County will be out there alone looking like dumbfucks they normally are.


  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,498 Standard Supporter


    The goal of the shut down has been been met.

    If the goal posts have been moved to waiting for a vaccine for a virus that has a .2 - .6% death rate (overwhelming elderly who have health issues), we will do this until a great depression kills millions worldwide. This is not a reasonable option and will destroy lives, communities, and our country long term.




    Americans are dumb but they aren't stupid.

    This won't be a problem in 10 days. You're going to start seeing massive protests and people just going back to their normal life.

    The responses by the E. WA sheriffs/counties was the tip of the iceberg. Spokane County will fold in about 10 to 12 days and join the rest (more wannabe progs in Spokane than, say, Moses Lake - playing the political game), then it's just a matter of time before Clark, Pierce and Snoho fall behind. King County will be out there alone looking like dumbfucks they normally are.


    You’re more optimistic than me.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,115 Standard Supporter


    The goal of the shut down has been been met.

    If the goal posts have been moved to waiting for a vaccine for a virus that has a .2 - .6% death rate (overwhelming elderly who have health issues), we will do this until a great depression kills millions worldwide. This is not a reasonable option and will destroy lives, communities, and our country long term.




    Americans are dumb but they aren't stupid.

    This won't be a problem in 10 days. You're going to start seeing massive protests and people just going back to their normal life.

    The responses by the E. WA sheriffs/counties was the tip of the iceberg. Spokane County will fold in about 10 to 12 days and join the rest (more wannabe progs in Spokane than, say, Moses Lake - playing the political game), then it's just a matter of time before Clark, Pierce and Snoho fall behind. King County will be out there alone looking like dumbfucks they normally are.


    You’re more optimistic than me.
    Just what I'm hearing at the club.

    Missing a couple paychecks is one thing. Watching your business go hurtling toward destruction is a whole different thing.

    Idaho opens back up 5/1 - the wave will come from the east in the state of Washington.

    https://www.boisestatepublicradio.org/post/gov-brad-little-releases-his-roadmap-reopen-idahos-economy#stream/0
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,280 Standard Supporter
    There is no science supporting keeping 80% or more of America in lockdown. It's called the thin blue line for a reason. When hard working Americans make the call to tell the fascists to phu*ck off, not a lot of cops are going to want to get involved, especially in rural America. Now a lot of cops are wannabe fascists, but a lot aren't. And they all live in the community and have to go home and have families. Even the pigs are not going to want to get way over the community skis on this.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    science denier. Experts have voted.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,754
    doogie said:

    We’ve shifted from trying to stop massive number of short term death to stopping all infections, an impossibility.

    By definition we were ALWAYS trying to make the R0 < 1. That is fundamental and it hasn’t changed.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,754


    The goal of the shut down has been been met.

    If the goal posts have been moved to waiting for a vaccine for a virus that has a .2 - .6% death rate (overwhelming elderly who have health issues), we will do this until a great depression kills millions worldwide. This is not a reasonable option and will destroy lives, communities, and our country long term.

    We are never going to wait out the virus. That is not a possibility. We can only manage the rate it spreads, and do everything we can to protect the most vulnerable. But we all know an economic collapse will kill far more than this virus.

    We need to get back to living and be very diligent with nursing homes and other vulnerable people.

    But this zero tolerance policy that has us in an indefinite economic shut down because "if it saves one life..." will lead to civil unrest when the economy completely collapses.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/?outputType=amp
  • 89ute89ute Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,477 Swaye's Wigwam
    Nothing's changed with me

    Other people are starting to see the light.

    https://patriotpulse.net/tucker-carlson-unleashed-one-reality-check-that-could-end-dr-faucis-career/

    Carlson pointed out that the eight red states that did not issue shelter in place orders had fewer deaths and cases than the national average on per capita basis.

    Sweden, most famously, has never locked down.
    Restaurants there have never closed. That country is still suffering from coronavirus, suffering more in fact than we are in the U.S. But the country’s epidemic appears to have peaked. And without locking down, Sweden has, and this is the key, has fared far better than other European countries that did lock down. That includes Britain, Italy, Spain and Belgium.”
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,724 Founders Club
    HHusky said:


    The goal of the shut down has been been met.

    If the goal posts have been moved to waiting for a vaccine for a virus that has a .2 - .6% death rate (overwhelming elderly who have health issues), we will do this until a great depression kills millions worldwide. This is not a reasonable option and will destroy lives, communities, and our country long term.

    We are never going to wait out the virus. That is not a possibility. We can only manage the rate it spreads, and do everything we can to protect the most vulnerable. But we all know an economic collapse will kill far more than this virus.

    We need to get back to living and be very diligent with nursing homes and other vulnerable people.

    But this zero tolerance policy that has us in an indefinite economic shut down because "if it saves one life..." will lead to civil unrest when the economy completely collapses.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/?outputType=amp
    So?
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 6,232
    Open it back up.

    Now.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,498 Standard Supporter
    thechatch said:

    Open it back up.

    Now.

    Granny killer.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,724 Founders Club

    Here is what Trump said on March 4:

    “Well, I think the 3.4 percent is really a false number. Now, and this is just my hunch, and — but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this. Because a lot people will have this and it’s very mild. They’ll get better very rapidly. They don’t even see a doctor. They don’t even call a doctor.”

    He went on to say:

    “I think that that number (the WHO number) is very high. I think the number, personally, I would say the number is way under 1 percent.”

    Democrats and media pundits blasted Trump for spreading “misinformation.”


    Aptos house husbands were also irate as I recall


    Smart people like Don and me had a good grip on the science early on

    Bump. This is why the briefings are useless
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,280 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    doogie said:

    We’ve shifted from trying to stop massive number of short term death to stopping all infections, an impossibility.

    By definition we were ALWAYS trying to make the R0 < 1. That is fundamental and it hasn’t changed.
    It won't get to less than 1 until we achieve herd immunity. That wasn't the point of the shut down. It was to smooth out the death rate. We have done that. Better to have people exposed this spring and summer than kill the economy and have no functioning hospitals this fall and winter. You are free to shelter in place all you want. Apparently, you have the same position on that as you do on taxes. You think you should pay more taxes but won't until you are forced to. You won't sit in the dark in your basement unless you are forced to. The spirit of America is on display with the dazzler. Now I need to send a royalty check to the Throbber.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,724 Founders Club
    89ute said:

    Nothing's changed with me

    Other people are starting to see the light.

    https://patriotpulse.net/tucker-carlson-unleashed-one-reality-check-that-could-end-dr-faucis-career/

    Carlson pointed out that the eight red states that did not issue shelter in place orders had fewer deaths and cases than the national average on per capita basis.

    Sweden, most famously, has never locked down.
    Restaurants there have never closed. That country is still suffering from coronavirus, suffering more in fact than we are in the U.S. But the country’s epidemic appears to have peaked. And without locking down, Sweden has, and this is the key, has fared far better than other European countries that did lock down. That includes Britain, Italy, Spain and Belgium.

    That's what those of us who read books and love science call a control group showing that we fucked the economy in vain

    So lets knock off the bullshit and open it up

  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,498 Standard Supporter
    FU


    Bout dat motordick?


    Simple deal, Pod.
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