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Stone gets three years. Down from the 9 that was going to be handed out
Trump Tweets win again.
Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano said on “Fox & Friends” on Thursday, the day former Trump adviser Roger Stone was set to be sentenced after the federal judge overseeing the case refused demands to delay the trial, that “only a pardon can fairly undo this mess.”
“This is not about politics and it's not about friendship, it's about the Constitution and human decency,” Napolitano added.
Napolitano made the comments on Thursday, two days after U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson indicated during a pre-sentence hearing that she planned to move forward with Stone’s sentencing, which comes after his defense made a second request for a new trial earlier this month in the wake of revelations of possible political bias of a juror in his first case.
When asked what should happen on Thursday, Napolitano said, “The judge should interrogate this foreperson about her biases against the president.”
He went on to say that “The judge should interrogate the departed prosecutors about what they knew about this foreperson and when they knew it and why they quit. And then determine whether or not the integrity of Stone's trial was adversely affected by this juror. It seems inconceivable that it was not.”
Napolitano was referring to the mass resignation of the Justice Department prosecutors from the Stone case after senior leadership overruled their recommendation of a prison sentence from 87 to 108 months. The mass withdrawal, which happened after Attorney General William Barr intervened in Stone’s sentencing, caused Democrats to accuse President Donald Trump of interfering in the process – by earlier tweeting about his displeasure with the Justice Department. Trump denied it.
Trump Tweets win again.
Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano said on “Fox & Friends” on Thursday, the day former Trump adviser Roger Stone was set to be sentenced after the federal judge overseeing the case refused demands to delay the trial, that “only a pardon can fairly undo this mess.”
“This is not about politics and it's not about friendship, it's about the Constitution and human decency,” Napolitano added.
Napolitano made the comments on Thursday, two days after U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson indicated during a pre-sentence hearing that she planned to move forward with Stone’s sentencing, which comes after his defense made a second request for a new trial earlier this month in the wake of revelations of possible political bias of a juror in his first case.
When asked what should happen on Thursday, Napolitano said, “The judge should interrogate this foreperson about her biases against the president.”
He went on to say that “The judge should interrogate the departed prosecutors about what they knew about this foreperson and when they knew it and why they quit. And then determine whether or not the integrity of Stone's trial was adversely affected by this juror. It seems inconceivable that it was not.”
Napolitano was referring to the mass resignation of the Justice Department prosecutors from the Stone case after senior leadership overruled their recommendation of a prison sentence from 87 to 108 months. The mass withdrawal, which happened after Attorney General William Barr intervened in Stone’s sentencing, caused Democrats to accuse President Donald Trump of interfering in the process – by earlier tweeting about his displeasure with the Justice Department. Trump denied it.
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I'm no litigator ... perhaps one of them can clarify ... but the judge could have issued a JNOV if he/she believed that no reasonable jury could have reached the conclusion they reached. I've never heard of a judge "interrogating" a jury foreman. The jury is the jury; it's the job of the lawyers to vet them during voir dire. The judge runs the circus, so if the jury is fucking around or doing something else in appropriate during the course of the trial, then the judge has to act. If they don't, they don't and presumably they (the judge) thought that it was ok to move foward.
So then you're at "well, then the judge must have bias; interrogate him." And then we have tweets.
Our system isn't perfect but it's the only one we got. Trump is free to express his displeasure. I would hope the people who man the judicial branch of government are able to ignore it and do their jobs to the best of their abilities.
We all change our minds about justice depending on whether we're getting what we want. Swap some democratic operative in there and we're not worried about the foreman's bias. That's about all I know. -
The judge picked this jury including the partisan foreman
I'll go with Nip on this because he hates Trump so he's probably being fair -
And check the history on the judge. She's Muellers hit man.
Out of all the bullshit Manafort and Stone are all he got and none of it had to do with collusion -
I guess I am totally confused on this part
The mass withdrawal, which happened after Attorney General William Barr intervened in Stone’s sentencing
I heard, and unfortunately I did not note who said it, that it was an underling of Barr's that originally stated that the recommended sentencing was too much. The prosecutors threatened to withdraw if he followed up by going against their recommendation. Barr only confirmed the guy's lessening of the sentence.
My feelings about the juror screw up; is that the defense atty was deliberate in ignoring her - then trying for a mistrial
Now my final question - was I correct in the use of the semi-colon or should it have been a colon in the previous sentence? -
We all change our minds about justice depending on whether we're getting what we want. Swap some democratic operative in there and we're not worried about the foreman's bias. That's about all I know.
Democrat operatives don't go on trial
That's the biggest point
Obama didn't tweet. He went on 60 Minutes and said Hillary was innocent during the so called investigation
He told Loretta Lynch not to prosecute
Comey the lap dog went along
Comey. Brennan, and McCabe among others lied to Congress and or the FBI
No charges
I'm in favor of equal justice or injustice for all. If it's just politics then let's stop criminalizing one side of it -
The judge didn't pick the jury or elect the foreman.RaceBannon said:The judge picked this jury including the partisan foreman
I'll go with Nip on this because he hates Trump so he's probably being fair
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/roger-stone-juror-seth-cousins-defends-forewoman-tomeka-hart-after-trumps-claim-of-significant-bias/ar-BB10cXYp?ocid=spartandhp -
Colon. And drop "is that".LebamDawg said:I guess I am totally confused on this part
The mass withdrawal, which happened after Attorney General William Barr intervened in Stone’s sentencing
I heard, and unfortunately I did not note who said it, that it was an underling of Barr's that originally stated that the recommended sentencing was too much. The prosecutors threatened to withdraw if he followed up by going against their recommendation. Barr only confirmed the guy's lessening of the sentence.
My feelings about the juror screw up; is that the defense atty was deliberate in ignoring her - then trying for a mistrial
Now my final question - was I correct in the use of the semi-colon or should it have been a colon in the previous sentence? -
Your link doesn't support thatHHusky said:
The judge didn't pick the jury or elect the foreman.RaceBannon said:The judge picked this jury including the partisan foreman
I'll go with Nip on this because he hates Trump so he's probably being fair
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/roger-stone-juror-seth-cousins-defends-forewoman-tomeka-hart-after-trumps-claim-of-significant-bias/ar-BB10cXYp?ocid=spartandhp
Nor does another juror saying she liked the foreman
The foreman's own words indict her
Another horrible deflection -
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Ironic and brents in one tweet by the Obama wingman errr independent AG
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Holder is the worst, most incompetent, unqualified, partisan, dumb-ass AG this country has ever had, and considering the number of POS AG's we've had, that's really, really saying something.
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Say it to his FACERaceBannon said: -
May the brentsfs logical fallacy live in infamy.RaceBannon said:Ironic and brents in one tweet by the Obama wingman errr independent AG
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But he really, really liked her, Race.RaceBannon said:
Your link doesn't support thatHHusky said:
The judge didn't pick the jury or elect the foreman.RaceBannon said:The judge picked this jury including the partisan foreman
I'll go with Nip on this because he hates Trump so he's probably being fair
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/roger-stone-juror-seth-cousins-defends-forewoman-tomeka-hart-after-trumps-claim-of-significant-bias/ar-BB10cXYp?ocid=spartandhp
Nor does another juror saying she liked the foreman
The foreman's own words indict her
Another horrible deflection -
I always get confused whether he's Nip or NapRaceBannon said:The judge picked this jury including the partisan foreman
I'll go with Nip on this because he hates Trump so he's probably being fair -
Imagine caring about thisRaceBannon said: -
brents. I only remember him when someone brings him up here.pawz said:
May the brentsfs logical fallacy live in infamy.RaceBannon said:Ironic and brents in one tweet by the Obama wingman errr independent AG
talk about leaving a legacy.
Say it to his FACE!!!!!!!!!
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You're just a coward hiding behind a computer screen. Or keyboard
I think the old fella died before hiding behind an iPhone -
Were you around on the Doogfarm when that guy Buff fan, can't remember his handle, purported to be good friends with Kaufman and repeatedly called him "Nap", and the rest of us called bullshit on it and spent the better part of two months going back and forth with that idiot? We're like, "hey, the casual fan knows his nickname is "Nip", so we're assuming his friends know that too." I seem to recall him claiming he was a D1 player or some shit.DerekJohnson said:
I always get confused whether he's Nip or NapRaceBannon said:The judge picked this jury including the partisan foreman
I'll go with Nip on this because he hates Trump so he's probably being fair
Anywhoo, that's how I remember the Nip/Nap thing coming about.
Was there another story?
