For anyone who has ever praised England's healthcare system

Bendintheriver

England's healthcare is a disaster. 4.41 million people on waiting lists for routine operations.

See our future if we let rats have control and go with their single payer model.




The picture of four-year-old Jack sleeping on a hospital floor despite having suspected pneumonia summed up in one image more than a million words or spreadsheets could ever do.

The hospital quickly admitted it was all true – little Jack had been left on a floor for four and a half hours and the Chief Executive had apologised personally to Jack’s mum. TRUE STORY.

That picture told how we have a 40,000 shortage of nurses, 4.41 million people stuck on waiting lists for routine operations, and hundreds of crumbling, unsafe hospitals. Our NHS staff are brilliant but they’re overstretched and under-resourced.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/alison-phillips-how-vile-spread-21067696

MikeDamone

Sounds like they could use death panels....

Of course everyone knows that the first law of economics is scarcity, and the first law of politics is to ignore the first law of economics....

Swaye

MikeDamone said:

Sounds like they could use death panels....

Of course everyone knows that the first law of economics is scarcity, and the first law of politics is to ignore the first law of economics....

Who needs a panel? Just let the kid lay there until he dies. Problem solved. Medicare for all looks great!

HHusky

Bendintheriver said:

England's healthcare is a disaster. 4.41 million people on waiting lists for routine operations.

See our future if we let rats have control and go with their single payer model.




The picture of four-year-old Jack sleeping on a hospital floor despite having suspected pneumonia summed up in one image more than a million words or spreadsheets could ever do.

The hospital quickly admitted it was all true – little Jack had been left on a floor for four and a half hours and the Chief Executive had apologised personally to Jack’s mum. TRUE STORY.

That picture told how we have a 40,000 shortage of nurses, 4.41 million people stuck on waiting lists for routine operations, and hundreds of crumbling, unsafe hospitals. Our NHS staff are brilliant but they’re overstretched and under-resourced.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/alison-phillips-how-vile-spread-21067696

Tired of campaigning against Canadian healthcare? This is a nice variation.

PurpleThrobber

Bendintheriver said:

England's healthcare is a disaster. 4.41 million people on waiting lists for routine operations.

See our future if we let rats have control and go with their single payer model.




The picture of four-year-old Jack sleeping on a hospital floor despite having suspected pneumonia summed up in one image more than a million words or spreadsheets could ever do.

The hospital quickly admitted it was all true – little Jack had been left on a floor for four and a half hours and the Chief Executive had apologised personally to Jack’s mum. TRUE STORY.

That picture told how we have a 40,000 shortage of nurses, 4.41 million people stuck on waiting lists for routine operations, and hundreds of crumbling, unsafe hospitals. Our NHS staff are brilliant but they’re overstretched and under-resourced.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/alison-phillips-how-vile-spread-21067696

The leftists don't know Jack.

HHusky

PurpleThrobber said:

Bendintheriver said:

England's healthcare is a disaster. 4.41 million people on waiting lists for routine operations.

See our future if we let rats have control and go with their single payer model.




The picture of four-year-old Jack sleeping on a hospital floor despite having suspected pneumonia summed up in one image more than a million words or spreadsheets could ever do.

The hospital quickly admitted it was all true – little Jack had been left on a floor for four and a half hours and the Chief Executive had apologised personally to Jack’s mum. TRUE STORY.

That picture told how we have a 40,000 shortage of nurses, 4.41 million people stuck on waiting lists for routine operations, and hundreds of crumbling, unsafe hospitals. Our NHS staff are brilliant but they’re overstretched and under-resourced.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/alison-phillips-how-vile-spread-21067696

The leftists don't know Jack.

Most know that single payer isn’t nationalized healthcare. Atl doesn’t.

Sledog

My Canadian friend has come to the US and paid cash for two surgeries on the last few years. Wait was too long. He was tired of the pain.

HHusky

Sledog said:

My Canadian friend has come to the US and paid cash for two surgeries on the last few years. Wait was too long. He was tired of the pain.

Regardless, Canadians overwhelmingly prefer their system to ours.

RaceBannon

It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

Its wonder care and its free!

MikeDamone

HHusky said:

Sledog said:

My Canadian friend has come to the US and paid cash for two surgeries on the last few years. Wait was too long. He was tired of the pain.

Regardless, Canadians overwhelmingly prefer their system to ours.

If they like it, can they keep it?

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/survey-reveals-canadian-health-care-concerns

HHusky

RaceBannon said:

It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

Its wonder care and its free!

Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.

HHusky

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

Sledog said:

My Canadian friend has come to the US and paid cash for two surgeries on the last few years. Wait was too long. He was tired of the pain.

Regardless, Canadians overwhelmingly prefer their system to ours.

If they like it, can they keep it?

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/survey-reveals-canadian-health-care-concerns

Aging population has concerns about health care?

Stop the presses!

(They still don't want our system.)

SFGbob

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

Its wonder care and its free!

Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.

Figures, your dad has lived too long an you're tired of him spending what you thought was going to be your inheritance.

HHusky

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

Its wonder care and its free!

Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.

Figures, your dad has lived too long an you're tired of him spending what you thought was going to be your inheritance.

Do you not know how this works? His care is barely costing him anything. The inheritance is modest, but growing.

SFGbob

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

Its wonder care and its free!

Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.

Figures, your dad has lived too long an you're tired of him spending what you thought was going to be your inheritance.

Do you not know how this works? His care is barely costing him anything. The inheritance is modest, but growing.

Medicare doesn't cover everything. Do you know how it works? Must really piss you off that he hasn't died yet.

MikeDamone

HHusky said:

MikeDamone said:

HHusky said:

Sledog said:

My Canadian friend has come to the US and paid cash for two surgeries on the last few years. Wait was too long. He was tired of the pain.

Regardless, Canadians overwhelmingly prefer their system to ours.

If they like it, can they keep it?

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/survey-reveals-canadian-health-care-concerns

Aging population has concerns about health care?

Stop the presses!

(They still don't want our system.)

Neither did Venezuela

Bendintheriver

HHusky said:

Bendintheriver said:

England's healthcare is a disaster. 4.41 million people on waiting lists for routine operations.

See our future if we let rats have control and go with their single payer model.




The picture of four-year-old Jack sleeping on a hospital floor despite having suspected pneumonia summed up in one image more than a million words or spreadsheets could ever do.

The hospital quickly admitted it was all true – little Jack had been left on a floor for four and a half hours and the Chief Executive had apologised personally to Jack’s mum. TRUE STORY.

That picture told how we have a 40,000 shortage of nurses, 4.41 million people stuck on waiting lists for routine operations, and hundreds of crumbling, unsafe hospitals. Our NHS staff are brilliant but they’re overstretched and under-resourced.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/alison-phillips-how-vile-spread-21067696

Tired of campaigning against Canadian healthcare? This is a nice variation.

I have multiple friends who have come down to the US from Canada for life saving procedures. You still want to tout Canadian healthcare?

HHusky

Bendintheriver said:

HHusky said:

Bendintheriver said:

England's healthcare is a disaster. 4.41 million people on waiting lists for routine operations.

See our future if we let rats have control and go with their single payer model.




The picture of four-year-old Jack sleeping on a hospital floor despite having suspected pneumonia summed up in one image more than a million words or spreadsheets could ever do.

The hospital quickly admitted it was all true – little Jack had been left on a floor for four and a half hours and the Chief Executive had apologised personally to Jack’s mum. TRUE STORY.

That picture told how we have a 40,000 shortage of nurses, 4.41 million people stuck on waiting lists for routine operations, and hundreds of crumbling, unsafe hospitals. Our NHS staff are brilliant but they’re overstretched and under-resourced.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/alison-phillips-how-vile-spread-21067696

Tired of campaigning against Canadian healthcare? This is a nice variation.

I have multiple friends who have come down to the US from Canada for life saving procedures. You still want to tout Canadian healthcare?

Don't you always have "multiple examples" of some rare event?

HHusky

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

Its wonder care and its free!

Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.

Figures, your dad has lived too long an you're tired of him spending what you thought was going to be your inheritance.

Do you not know how this works? His care is barely costing him anything. The inheritance is modest, but growing.

Medicare doesn't cover everything. Do you know how it works? Must really piss you off that he hasn't died yet.

He was a public employee during the generous benefit, less generous pay days. He's not deficit spending.

Bendintheriver

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

Its wonder care and its free!

Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.

Figures, your dad has lived too long an you're tired of him spending what you thought was going to be your inheritance.

You have to love when a rat ignores one single payer program disasters.

Now we are down to Canada and I happen to know people who have come down here for life saving surgery.

Good call HH. How many more need to die before you FEEL for those that believed in single payer healthcare and never got it?

HHusky

Bendintheriver said:

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

Its wonder care and its free!

Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.

Figures, your dad has lived too long an you're tired of him spending what you thought was going to be your inheritance.

You have to love when a rat ignores one single payer program disasters.

Now we are down to Canada and I happen to know people who have come down here for life saving surgery.

Good call HH. How many more need to die before you FEEL for those that believed in single payer healthcare and never got it?

Why talk to me? I'm sure if you explain to the Canadians that they're stupid, you'll find them very receptive.