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Pac 10 again? You crybabies just might get your round robin schedule back.
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I agree with you 100%. Because of this, I'd like to see the Pac-12 flip the script and go 10 conference games plus 1 P5 ooc. I think it would be tough to keep a 2 loss team out. Force the issue. How could anyone NOT look at a 10 game conference schedule as an absolute meat grinder, cannibalizing fight to the death. How do you keep that champ out? I think it would work. Fuck that, go 11 conference games.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m always annoyed that people pretend strength of schedule actually matters. No matter how hard your schedule is, if a team loses two games, they aren’t making the playoff.RaceBannon said:
This guy gets itwhuggy said:
Yeah we'll have to wait a few years but the prevailing trend is towards an 8 team playoff. That means win the PAC 8 or PAC 10 and you are in even with 3 or 4 losses. Imagine being able to schedule tough again out of conference because it will all come down to winning your conference. Schedule might even drop back to 11 regular season games to accomodate the extra playoff round. In a PAC 8 you could have a round robin conference schedule and 4 OOC games based on A-B-C-C opponents. A boon for the fans who dont want to see North Dakota or Portland State anymore.89ute said:
Not quite, the BIG recently changed their stance on NO FCS.RaceBannon said:
Things change all the time in college football89ute said:
No one wants to load up their schedule with a bunch of non con P5s. Axe the SEC.RaceBannon said:89ute said:
Lets see. 7 conference games and 5 out of conference games. Good lucking scheduling those 5 ooc games. Liberty, UMass, Idaho State. You're as fucking stupid as Larry Scott.ThomasFremont said:Not far enough. Cut the rest of the dead weight and bring back the PAC-8.
See ya in the playoffs!!!!11!111!!!
We used to do 4 non cons a year and had awesome schedules
Even the SEC wants P 5 match ups now
The B1G has to play power 5 teams
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/7/24/16020112/big-ten-fcs-opponents-football-scheduling
The SEC plays 8 conf but many have a permanent rivalry match-up with a non con P5, like Florida - Florida St.
Same with the ACC plus 5 teams play Notre Dame.
It would be tough for 8 teams to try to beef up their schedules to match the other P5s where most already play 9-10 P5s as it is.
You can kiss the playoffs good buy along with all the top west coast recruits. (already happening)
Pac 8 would be the WAC!
The BCS and the playoffs are killing college football
I already think that the Pac-12 is the most entertaining of all the conferences, this would bring it to the forefront. -
The problem is that no one else shares this opinion. 9 games is killing us89ute said:
I agree with you 100%. Because of this, I'd like to see the Pac-12 flip the script and go 10 conference games plus 1 P5 ooc. I think it would be tough to keep a 2 loss team out. Force the issue. How could anyone NOT look at a 10 game conference schedule as an absolute meat grinder, cannibalizing fight to the death. How do you keep that champ out? I think it would work. Fuck that, go 11 conference games.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m always annoyed that people pretend strength of schedule actually matters. No matter how hard your schedule is, if a team loses two games, they aren’t making the playoff.RaceBannon said:
This guy gets itwhuggy said:
Yeah we'll have to wait a few years but the prevailing trend is towards an 8 team playoff. That means win the PAC 8 or PAC 10 and you are in even with 3 or 4 losses. Imagine being able to schedule tough again out of conference because it will all come down to winning your conference. Schedule might even drop back to 11 regular season games to accomodate the extra playoff round. In a PAC 8 you could have a round robin conference schedule and 4 OOC games based on A-B-C-C opponents. A boon for the fans who dont want to see North Dakota or Portland State anymore.89ute said:
Not quite, the BIG recently changed their stance on NO FCS.RaceBannon said:
Things change all the time in college football89ute said:
No one wants to load up their schedule with a bunch of non con P5s. Axe the SEC.RaceBannon said:89ute said:
Lets see. 7 conference games and 5 out of conference games. Good lucking scheduling those 5 ooc games. Liberty, UMass, Idaho State. You're as fucking stupid as Larry Scott.ThomasFremont said:Not far enough. Cut the rest of the dead weight and bring back the PAC-8.
See ya in the playoffs!!!!11!111!!!
We used to do 4 non cons a year and had awesome schedules
Even the SEC wants P 5 match ups now
The B1G has to play power 5 teams
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/7/24/16020112/big-ten-fcs-opponents-football-scheduling
The SEC plays 8 conf but many have a permanent rivalry match-up with a non con P5, like Florida - Florida St.
Same with the ACC plus 5 teams play Notre Dame.
It would be tough for 8 teams to try to beef up their schedules to match the other P5s where most already play 9-10 P5s as it is.
You can kiss the playoffs good buy along with all the top west coast recruits. (already happening)
Pac 8 would be the WAC!
The BCS and the playoffs are killing college football
I already think that the Pac-12 is the most entertaining of all the conferences, this would bring it to the forefront.
Get rid of the playoffs or go to 8. Football was better before when we didn't have to listen to hot takes in September that the Pac 12 is out of the playoffs
I'd rather see great inter sectional games during the season
It boils down to Utah being the problem. -
"Welcome to the Pac-12, Hong Kong Rebels and Chinese Tyrants." - Larry Scott
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What? 3 of the 5 conferences play 9 games, and 5/14ths of the ACC does as well. SEC is the problem.RaceBannon said:
The problem is that no one else shares this opinion. 9 games is killing us89ute said:
I agree with you 100%. Because of this, I'd like to see the Pac-12 flip the script and go 10 conference games plus 1 P5 ooc. I think it would be tough to keep a 2 loss team out. Force the issue. How could anyone NOT look at a 10 game conference schedule as an absolute meat grinder, cannibalizing fight to the death. How do you keep that champ out? I think it would work. Fuck that, go 11 conference games.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m always annoyed that people pretend strength of schedule actually matters. No matter how hard your schedule is, if a team loses two games, they aren’t making the playoff.RaceBannon said:
This guy gets itwhuggy said:
Yeah we'll have to wait a few years but the prevailing trend is towards an 8 team playoff. That means win the PAC 8 or PAC 10 and you are in even with 3 or 4 losses. Imagine being able to schedule tough again out of conference because it will all come down to winning your conference. Schedule might even drop back to 11 regular season games to accomodate the extra playoff round. In a PAC 8 you could have a round robin conference schedule and 4 OOC games based on A-B-C-C opponents. A boon for the fans who dont want to see North Dakota or Portland State anymore.89ute said:
Not quite, the BIG recently changed their stance on NO FCS.RaceBannon said:
Things change all the time in college football89ute said:
No one wants to load up their schedule with a bunch of non con P5s. Axe the SEC.RaceBannon said:89ute said:
Lets see. 7 conference games and 5 out of conference games. Good lucking scheduling those 5 ooc games. Liberty, UMass, Idaho State. You're as fucking stupid as Larry Scott.ThomasFremont said:Not far enough. Cut the rest of the dead weight and bring back the PAC-8.
See ya in the playoffs!!!!11!111!!!
We used to do 4 non cons a year and had awesome schedules
Even the SEC wants P 5 match ups now
The B1G has to play power 5 teams
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/7/24/16020112/big-ten-fcs-opponents-football-scheduling
The SEC plays 8 conf but many have a permanent rivalry match-up with a non con P5, like Florida - Florida St.
Same with the ACC plus 5 teams play Notre Dame.
It would be tough for 8 teams to try to beef up their schedules to match the other P5s where most already play 9-10 P5s as it is.
You can kiss the playoffs good buy along with all the top west coast recruits. (already happening)
Pac 8 would be the WAC!
The BCS and the playoffs are killing college football
I already think that the Pac-12 is the most entertaining of all the conferences, this would bring it to the forefront.
Get rid of the playoffs or go to 8. Football was better before when we didn't have to listen to hot takes in September that the Pac 12 is out of the playoffs
I'd rather see great inter sectional games during the season
It boils down to Utah being the problem. -
And the SEC has won 17 national titles in a row
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#MakeTheRoseBowlGreatAgain
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You have to get fans back in the stadiums. Scheduling in the last ten or so years has trended away from the big intersectional rivalries just because teams didn't want to risk a loss and jeopardize playoff hopes. Guaranteeing conference champs a spot takes the fear factor out of OOC scheduling. Give people a reason to attend by attractive matchups and decent start times and you've solved 90% of the fan attendance problem. College football is also missing out on at least one playoff round of "March Madness" by limiting the field to four teams. Give that number 8 seed, this year Oregon or Utah, a crack at Bama in the first round. I don't see any downside to it.
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Arizona BBall is dead. That’s the only thing that the Arizona schools contributed besides STD’s.
Let them go to the hell hole Big 12, where they will be a much better fit geographically and culturally.
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You all know tennis elbow Larry will solve this issue by bringing in Colorado state and Utah state to have "true rivals!"
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See you in the conference championship if you take care of business and stay ranked. Don't bother showing up if you don't.89ute said:
Lets see. 7 conference games and 5 out of conference games. Good lucking scheduling those 5 ooc games. Liberty, UMass, Idaho State. You're as fucking stupid as Larry Scott.ThomasFremont said:Not far enough. Cut the rest of the dead weight and bring back the PAC-8.
See ya in the playoffs!!!!11!111!!!
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Disagree. Football officially began in 1998 with the BCS. Teams finally had to WIN championships instead of claiming them or being voted champion. The Playoffs upped the ante and made college football even better. On the flip side, it watered down the relevance of the voted titles of the past.RaceBannon said:
This guy gets itwhuggy said:
Yeah we'll have to wait a few years but the prevailing trend is towards an 8 team playoff. That means win the PAC 8 or PAC 10 and you are in even with 3 or 4 losses. Imagine being able to schedule tough again out of conference because it will all come down to winning your conference. Schedule might even drop back to 11 regular season games to accomodate the extra playoff round. In a PAC 8 you could have a round robin conference schedule and 4 OOC games based on A-B-C-C opponents. A boon for the fans who dont want to see North Dakota or Portland State anymore.89ute said:
Not quite, the BIG recently changed their stance on NO FCS.RaceBannon said:
Things change all the time in college football89ute said:
No one wants to load up their schedule with a bunch of non con P5s. Axe the SEC.RaceBannon said:89ute said:
Lets see. 7 conference games and 5 out of conference games. Good lucking scheduling those 5 ooc games. Liberty, UMass, Idaho State. You're as fucking stupid as Larry Scott.ThomasFremont said:Not far enough. Cut the rest of the dead weight and bring back the PAC-8.
See ya in the playoffs!!!!11!111!!!
We used to do 4 non cons a year and had awesome schedules
Even the SEC wants P 5 match ups now
The B1G has to play power 5 teams
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/7/24/16020112/big-ten-fcs-opponents-football-scheduling
The SEC plays 8 conf but many have a permanent rivalry match-up with a non con P5, like Florida - Florida St.
Same with the ACC plus 5 teams play Notre Dame.
It would be tough for 8 teams to try to beef up their schedules to match the other P5s where most already play 9-10 P5s as it is.
You can kiss the playoffs good buy along with all the top west coast recruits. (already happening)
Pac 8 would be the WAC!
The BCS and the playoffs are killing college football -
lol. Fucking high school stadium fucking loser.89ute said:
Lets see. 7 conference games and 5 out of conference games. Good lucking scheduling those 5 ooc games. Liberty, UMass, Idaho State. You're as fucking stupid as Larry Scott.ThomasFremont said:Not far enough. Cut the rest of the dead weight and bring back the PAC-8.
See ya in the playoffs!!!!11!111!!! -
Lol wtfsalemcoog said:Arizona BBall is dead. That’s the only thing that the Arizona schools contributed besides STD’s.
Let them go to the hell hole Big 12, where they will be a much better fit geographically and culturally.
You think phoenix has more in common with Texas than California? -
It's pretty simple. Win all of your games plus the conference championship and you're in. Drop one and win the conference championship and most seasons you will get in, unless there is a crappy Notre Dame team in the mix. If you lose two games or more, no one wants to see you in the playoff competition anyway. So it works.chuck said:
This almost gives me wood.whuggy said:
Yeah we'll have to wait a few years but the prevailing trend is towards an 8 team playoff. That means win the PAC 8 or PAC 10 and you are in even with 3 or 4 losses. Imagine being able to schedule tough again out of conference because it will all come down to winning your conference. Schedule might even drop back to 11 regular season games to accomodate the extra playoff round. In a PAC 8 you could have a round robin conference schedule and 4 OOC games based on A-B-C-C opponents. A boon for the fans who dont want to see North Dakota or Portland State anymore.89ute said:
Not quite, the BIG recently changed their stance on NO FCS.RaceBannon said:
Things change all the time in college football89ute said:
No one wants to load up their schedule with a bunch of non con P5s. Axe the SEC.RaceBannon said:89ute said:
Lets see. 7 conference games and 5 out of conference games. Good lucking scheduling those 5 ooc games. Liberty, UMass, Idaho State. You're as fucking stupid as Larry Scott.ThomasFremont said:Not far enough. Cut the rest of the dead weight and bring back the PAC-8.
See ya in the playoffs!!!!11!111!!!
We used to do 4 non cons a year and had awesome schedules
Even the SEC wants P 5 match ups now
The B1G has to play power 5 teams
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/7/24/16020112/big-ten-fcs-opponents-football-scheduling
The SEC plays 8 conf but many have a permanent rivalry match-up with a non con P5, like Florida - Florida St.
Same with the ACC plus 5 teams play Notre Dame.
It would be tough for 8 teams to try to beef up their schedules to match the other P5s where most already play 9-10 P5s as it is.
You can kiss the playoffs good buy along with all the top west coast recruits. (already happening)
Pac 8 would be the WAC!
I'm mainly sick of the need to go undefeated. College football is the only big time sport where there's such pressure to win every game just to be in the conversation at the end. The best teams in the NFLdrop a game or few with extremely rare exceptions. The only undefeated NFL team of my lifetime wasnt the best team at the end. Wild card teams have dominated the playoffs and even won the super bowl. Dominant NBA teams win about 7/8 games, equivalent to 14-2. In the majors it's about 5/8 or 10-6.
Shrink the conferences back down, give everyone 7 conference and four nonconference games, and expand the playoff and there would be no reason for the big time programs not to play each other.
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Bring back the Big 5!ThomasFremont said:Not far enough. Cut the rest of the dead weight and bring back the PAC-8.
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Another spot on post by MeekMeek said:
yes, that is something that the ADs and university presidents need to really pick up on... if 2 teams find that Larry Scott's innovative business model is repulsing our own teams to the point they'd rather get more exposure and money by joining a fraternity of those cities you really need to take action toot sweet.UWhuskytskeet said:Lol imagine dropping Seattle, Bay Area, LA, Boulder for Lubbock, Waco, Lawrence, and Ames.
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I’ve been saying it for years... One game per season allowed against a non P5 team. 8 team playoff would help too. @whuggy made a great point that it would solve some non conference issues. Teams wouldn’t be deathly afraid of losing an OOC game.
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This is the PAC-Howevermany: No church schools!PurpleThrobber said: -
No one wanted Utah as part of our expansion plan, and yet here we are. Plan B.89ute said:
No one wants to load up their schedule with a bunch of non con P5s. Axe the SEC.RaceBannon said:89ute said:
Lets see. 7 conference games and 5 out of conference games. Good lucking scheduling those 5 ooc games. Liberty, UMass, Idaho State. You're as fucking stupid as Larry Scott.ThomasFremont said:Not far enough. Cut the rest of the dead weight and bring back the PAC-8.
See ya in the playoffs!!!!11!111!!!
We used to do 4 non cons a year and had awesome schedules -
It was all a dream.RaceBannon said:
I remember when we solved the whole thing by having the Pac 8 be the West and the Big 8 be the East and Utah falling back into the WACThomasFremont said:Not far enough. Cut the rest of the dead weight and bring back the PAC-8.
They should have listened -
Arizona in general. Yes.Pitchfork51 said:
Lol wtfsalemcoog said:Arizona BBall is dead. That’s the only thing that the Arizona schools contributed besides STD’s.
Let them go to the hell hole Big 12, where they will be a much better fit geographically and culturally.
You think phoenix has more in common with Texas than California? -
Have you ever read Word Up magazine?ThomasFremont said:
It was all a dream.RaceBannon said:
I remember when we solved the whole thing by having the Pac 8 be the West and the Big 8 be the East and Utah falling back into the WACThomasFremont said:Not far enough. Cut the rest of the dead weight and bring back the PAC-8.
They should have listened -
Seriously, that would have been so awesomeRaceBannon said:
I remember when we solved the whole thing by having the Pac 8 be the West and the Big 8 be the East and Utah falling back into the WACThomasFremont said:Not far enough. Cut the rest of the dead weight and bring back the PAC-8.
They should have listened -
Frank Kush approves.YellowSnow said:ASU and UA should reform a tuff WAC with Ute and BYE.
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RaceBannon said:
This guy gets itwhuggy said:
Yeah we'll have to wait a few years but the prevailing trend is towards an 8 team playoff. That means win the PAC 8 or PAC 10 and you are in even with 3 or 4 losses. Imagine being able to schedule tough again out of conference because it will all come down to winning your conference. Schedule might even drop back to 11 regular season games to accomodate the extra playoff round. In a PAC 8 you could have a round robin conference schedule and 4 OOC games based on A-B-C-C opponents. A boon for the fans who dont want to see North Dakota or Portland State anymore.89ute said:
Not quite, the BIG recently changed their stance on NO FCS.RaceBannon said:
Things change all the time in college football89ute said:
No one wants to load up their schedule with a bunch of non con P5s. Axe the SEC.RaceBannon said:89ute said:
Lets see. 7 conference games and 5 out of conference games. Good lucking scheduling those 5 ooc games. Liberty, UMass, Idaho State. You're as fucking stupid as Larry Scott.ThomasFremont said:Not far enough. Cut the rest of the dead weight and bring back the PAC-8.
See ya in the playoffs!!!!11!111!!!
We used to do 4 non cons a year and had awesome schedules
Even the SEC wants P 5 match ups now
The B1G has to play power 5 teams
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/7/24/16020112/big-ten-fcs-opponents-football-scheduling
The SEC plays 8 conf but many have a permanent rivalry match-up with a non con P5, like Florida - Florida St.
Same with the ACC plus 5 teams play Notre Dame.
It would be tough for 8 teams to try to beef up their schedules to match the other P5s where most already play 9-10 P5s as it is.
You can kiss the playoffs good buy along with all the top west coast recruits. (already happening)
Pac 8 would be the WAC!
The BCS and the playoffsare killingkilled college football -
Never. But I met Heavy D one time. He was not in a limousine.Emoterman said:
Have you ever read Word Up magazine?ThomasFremont said:
It was all a dream.RaceBannon said:
I remember when we solved the whole thing by having the Pac 8 be the West and the Big 8 be the East and Utah falling back into the WACThomasFremont said:Not far enough. Cut the rest of the dead weight and bring back the PAC-8.
They should have listened
