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  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,497 Founders Club

    Brennan was appointed by Obama. The rank and file employees of both the CIA and FBI tend to be very conservative.


  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,010 Standard Supporter

    The CIA is the actual power in charge behind the scenes. Get rid of it.

    What’s hilarious is that if we allowed the employees of the CIA and FBI to elect our presidents it would be nothing but an endless stream of Republicans. These are two of the most conservative departments our government has. But somehow they are a huge problem now that Trump is in office. Odd.

    You have no clue what in the hell you are talking about. The lifer's in the CIA and FBI are anything but Republican. You can't name one fed department that is majority Rep.

    If you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,807 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    I must say, that was a fascinating essay
    https://taibbi.substack.com/p/were-in-a-permanent-coup

    Bad article, just more deep state tinfoil hat BS
    We should trust the government and do what they say


    Authoritarian follower
    Congress oversees the IC

    If you think conspiracies are everywhere, you'll see them everywhere
    If you cant address the obvious conspiracy you're part of the problem
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    The CIA is the actual power in charge behind the scenes. Get rid of it.

    What’s hilarious is that if we allowed the employees of the CIA and FBI to elect our presidents it would be nothing but an endless stream of Republicans. These are two of the most conservative departments our government has. But somehow they are a huge problem now that Trump is in office. Odd.

    You have no clue what in the hell you are talking about. The lifer's in the CIA and FBI are anything but Republican. You can't name one fed department that is majority Rep.

    If you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk.
    Got a link to show your point? I know two retired FBI. Both conservative. I have met several current FBI. All conservative. I have never met a cia agent to my knowledge. That's a small sample. But I'm curious where you get the facts that the FBI and cia agents are anything but republican.
  • RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373

    The CIA is the actual power in charge behind the scenes. Get rid of it.

    What’s hilarious is that if we allowed the employees of the CIA and FBI to elect our presidents it would be nothing but an endless stream of Republicans. These are two of the most conservative departments our government has. But somehow they are a huge problem now that Trump is in office. Odd.

    You have no clue what in the hell you are talking about. The lifer's in the CIA and FBI are anything but Republican. You can't name one fed department that is majority Rep.

    If you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk.
    All of them? No. A majority? Oh hell yes. Now they may not be Trumpist Republicans because they tend to be very intelligent.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211

    The CIA is the actual power in charge behind the scenes. Get rid of it.

    What’s hilarious is that if we allowed the employees of the CIA and FBI to elect our presidents it would be nothing but an endless stream of Republicans. These are two of the most conservative departments our government has. But somehow they are a huge problem now that Trump is in office. Odd.

    You have no clue what in the hell you are talking about. The lifer's in the CIA and FBI are anything but Republican. You can't name one fed department that is majority Rep.

    If you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk.
    All of them? No. A majority? Oh hell yes. Now they may not be Trumpist Republicans because they tend to be very intelligent.
    I think you're working off a template that's over 30 years old. While it was true 30 years ago, it's no longer the case. And upper management has been dominated by Rats and the clearest way to advance in both institutions has been to parrot the left's agenda.

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    The CIA is the actual power in charge behind the scenes. Get rid of it.

    What’s hilarious is that if we allowed the employees of the CIA and FBI to elect our presidents it would be nothing but an endless stream of Republicans. These are two of the most conservative departments our government has. But somehow they are a huge problem now that Trump is in office. Odd.

    You have no clue what in the hell you are talking about. The lifer's in the CIA and FBI are anything but Republican. You can't name one fed department that is majority Rep.

    If you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk.
    All of them? No. A majority? Oh hell yes. Now they may not be Trumpist Republicans because they tend to be very intelligent.
    I think you're working off a template that's over 30 years old. While it was true 30 years ago, it's no longer the case. And upper management has been dominated by Rats and the clearest way to advance in both institutions has been to parrot the left's agenda.

    Trump just needs more tim to get his guys in there POTD.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,807 Founders Club
    Hondo knows a conservative agent

    Settled science
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    The CIA is the actual power in charge behind the scenes. Get rid of it.

    What’s hilarious is that if we allowed the employees of the CIA and FBI to elect our presidents it would be nothing but an endless stream of Republicans. These are two of the most conservative departments our government has. But somehow they are a huge problem now that Trump is in office. Odd.

    You have no clue what in the hell you are talking about. The lifer's in the CIA and FBI are anything but Republican. You can't name one fed department that is majority Rep.

    If you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk.
    All of them? No. A majority? Oh hell yes. Now they may not be Trumpist Republicans because they tend to be very intelligent.
    I think you're working off a template that's over 30 years old. While it was true 30 years ago, it's no longer the case. And upper management has been dominated by Rats and the clearest way to advance in both institutions has been to parrot the left's agenda.

    Trump just needs more tim to get his guys in there POTD.
    Trump doesn't appoint the entire rank and file Kunt.
  • RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
    SFGbob said:

    The CIA is the actual power in charge behind the scenes. Get rid of it.

    What’s hilarious is that if we allowed the employees of the CIA and FBI to elect our presidents it would be nothing but an endless stream of Republicans. These are two of the most conservative departments our government has. But somehow they are a huge problem now that Trump is in office. Odd.

    You have no clue what in the hell you are talking about. The lifer's in the CIA and FBI are anything but Republican. You can't name one fed department that is majority Rep.

    If you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk.
    All of them? No. A majority? Oh hell yes. Now they may not be Trumpist Republicans because they tend to be very intelligent.
    I think you're working off a template that's over 30 years old. While it was true 30 years ago, it's no longer the case. And upper management has been dominated by Rats and the clearest way to advance in both institutions has been to parrot the left's agenda.

    Nope. Just like with cops, the personality type that leads someone to be conservative also leads them to be CIA/FBI. Unlike cops however they tend to be very smart. Both institutions are also incredibly incestuous. If mom or dad are in the FBI/CIA their kids stand a much greater chance following them (likely taking their political ideology with them).

    We are seeing for the first time ever a major distrust of the FBI/CIA from the right and to a similar degree a blind trust from the left. That’s partisan politics for you.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    The CIA is the actual power in charge behind the scenes. Get rid of it.

    What’s hilarious is that if we allowed the employees of the CIA and FBI to elect our presidents it would be nothing but an endless stream of Republicans. These are two of the most conservative departments our government has. But somehow they are a huge problem now that Trump is in office. Odd.

    You have no clue what in the hell you are talking about. The lifer's in the CIA and FBI are anything but Republican. You can't name one fed department that is majority Rep.

    If you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk.
    All of them? No. A majority? Oh hell yes. Now they may not be Trumpist Republicans because they tend to be very intelligent.
    I think you're working off a template that's over 30 years old. While it was true 30 years ago, it's no longer the case. And upper management has been dominated by Rats and the clearest way to advance in both institutions has been to parrot the left's agenda.

    Nope. Just like with cops, the personality type that leads someone to be conservative also leads them to be CIA/FBI. Unlike cops however they tend to be very smart. Both institutions are also incredibly incestuous. If mom or dad are in the FBI/CIA their kids stand a much greater chance following them (likely taking their political ideology with them).

    We are seeing for the first time ever a major distrust of the FBI/CIA from the right and to a similar degree a blind trust from the left. That’s partisan politics for you.
    Frank Church is spinning in his grave.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211

    SFGbob said:

    The CIA is the actual power in charge behind the scenes. Get rid of it.

    What’s hilarious is that if we allowed the employees of the CIA and FBI to elect our presidents it would be nothing but an endless stream of Republicans. These are two of the most conservative departments our government has. But somehow they are a huge problem now that Trump is in office. Odd.

    You have no clue what in the hell you are talking about. The lifer's in the CIA and FBI are anything but Republican. You can't name one fed department that is majority Rep.

    If you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk.
    All of them? No. A majority? Oh hell yes. Now they may not be Trumpist Republicans because they tend to be very intelligent.
    I think you're working off a template that's over 30 years old. While it was true 30 years ago, it's no longer the case. And upper management has been dominated by Rats and the clearest way to advance in both institutions has been to parrot the left's agenda.

    Nope. Just like with cops, the personality type that leads someone to be conservative also leads them to be CIA/FBI. Unlike cops however they tend to be very smart. Both institutions are also incredibly incestuous. If mom or dad are in the FBI/CIA their kids stand a much greater chance following them (likely taking their political ideology with them).

    We are seeing for the first time ever a major distrust of the FBI/CIA from the right and to a similar degree a blind trust from the left. That’s partisan politics for you.
    You mean "conservatives" like Valerie Plame and Peter Strokz and Lisa Page?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,807 Founders Club
    The FBI CIA complex in DC isn't the rank and file
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    Do you think Page and Strokz would have behaved in the manner they did if the dominate culture they were operating in was Conservative? Do you think they would have been as open with their contempt for half of the American public if the worked in an environment that didn't at least wink and agree with them?
  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
    SFGbob said:

    Do you think Page and Strokz would have behaved in the manner they did if the dominate culture they were operating in was Conservative? Do you think they would have been as open with their contempt for half of the American public if the worked in an environment that didn't at least wink and agree with them?

    And by open contempt he means private text messages between the two...hell they had open contempt for Dems as well in those text messages. Strokz was behind the October 16 Hillary letter that may have decided the election...
  • RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    The CIA is the actual power in charge behind the scenes. Get rid of it.

    What’s hilarious is that if we allowed the employees of the CIA and FBI to elect our presidents it would be nothing but an endless stream of Republicans. These are two of the most conservative departments our government has. But somehow they are a huge problem now that Trump is in office. Odd.

    You have no clue what in the hell you are talking about. The lifer's in the CIA and FBI are anything but Republican. You can't name one fed department that is majority Rep.

    If you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk.
    All of them? No. A majority? Oh hell yes. Now they may not be Trumpist Republicans because they tend to be very intelligent.
    I think you're working off a template that's over 30 years old. While it was true 30 years ago, it's no longer the case. And upper management has been dominated by Rats and the clearest way to advance in both institutions has been to parrot the left's agenda.

    Nope. Just like with cops, the personality type that leads someone to be conservative also leads them to be CIA/FBI. Unlike cops however they tend to be very smart. Both institutions are also incredibly incestuous. If mom or dad are in the FBI/CIA their kids stand a much greater chance following them (likely taking their political ideology with them).

    We are seeing for the first time ever a major distrust of the FBI/CIA from the right and to a similar degree a blind trust from the left. That’s partisan politics for you.
    You mean "conservatives" like Valerie Plame and Peter Strokz and Lisa Page?
    Race was able to name two people. You got three. You win! Good job.
  • RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373

    The FBI CIA complex in DC isn't the rank and file


    That’s the Deep State. Right Race?
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,033

    The FBI CIA complex in DC isn't the rank and file


    That’s the Deep State. Right Race?
    Hello, I am very interest to lerning about this Deep State. Please telling more?
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    The CIA is the actual power in charge behind the scenes. Get rid of it.

    What’s hilarious is that if we allowed the employees of the CIA and FBI to elect our presidents it would be nothing but an endless stream of Republicans. These are two of the most conservative departments our government has. But somehow they are a huge problem now that Trump is in office. Odd.

    You have no clue what in the hell you are talking about. The lifer's in the CIA and FBI are anything but Republican. You can't name one fed department that is majority Rep.

    If you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk.
    All of them? No. A majority? Oh hell yes. Now they may not be Trumpist Republicans because they tend to be very intelligent.
    I think you're working off a template that's over 30 years old. While it was true 30 years ago, it's no longer the case. And upper management has been dominated by Rats and the clearest way to advance in both institutions has been to parrot the left's agenda.

    Nope. Just like with cops, the personality type that leads someone to be conservative also leads them to be CIA/FBI. Unlike cops however they tend to be very smart. Both institutions are also incredibly incestuous. If mom or dad are in the FBI/CIA their kids stand a much greater chance following them (likely taking their political ideology with them).

    We are seeing for the first time ever a major distrust of the FBI/CIA from the right and to a similar degree a blind trust from the left. That’s partisan politics for you.
    There are plenty of Rs and Ds in every agency and they vary a bit depending upon which party is in power because of appointments. But as someone who works with the feds frequently, what is most pronounced is the attitude carried by many fed employees that reveals their political underpinnings. I would sum it up this way: Right leaning, law and order types see their work as carrying out a mission. Left leaning, societal steering, moral relevance types see their work as a good public job with great benefits and opportunities for advancement.

    Do with that information whatever you wish.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter
    Wilson and Plame, good. Page and Stroke, bad.

    Easiest fucking call of the day.
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