One ethno state apparently is not like the other
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SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY: Dyke March bans Israeli and Jewish Pride flags; Palestinian flags still OK.
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If they leftists weren’t inconsistent, they would have no consistency at all. Hypocrites.
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This is the point of the other thread that appears to be impossible to grasp
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Do you support a white ethnostate? If not, why do you support a Jewish ethnostate but not a white one?
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But why do you root for muslims to attack gays and Jews?RaceBannon said:This is the point of the other thread that appears to be impossible to grasp
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Uhhh...JoobsZoneUW said:Do you support a white ethnostate? If not, why do you support a Jewish ethnostate but not a white one?
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Actually 2 million Arabs live safe and secure in Israel with a far higher standard of living than the Palis. How many Jews are living in Gaza?
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The march, which is returning to Washington after a 12-year hiatus, is seeking to be more radical than its previous version, including LGBTQ people of various races, religions, socioeconomic classes and gender identities, organizers told The Washington Post.
However, pro-Zionist and “nationalist symbols,” including Israeli and Jewish Pride flags, will not be welcomed at the event, organizers said.
Yael Horowitz, a Jewish march organizer, said the ban is a protest against “nations that have specific oppressive tendencies.”
“If someone would show up with an American flag but with the stripes as a rainbow, we would treat it the same way,” she told The Post. “I think what’s getting erased here is pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are very different things.”
The Palestinian flag, however, will be permitted, she added.
“Jewish stars and other identifications and celebrations of Jewishness (yarmulkes, tallit, other expressions of Judaism or Jewishness) are welcome and encouraged,” Ms. Horowitz said in a Facebook message explaining the decision, The Post reported. “We do ask that participants not bring pro-Israel paraphernalia in solidarity with our queer Palestinian friends.”
March organizer Rae Gaines, who is also Jewish, told the Forward that Jewish Pride flags, which are rainbow flags with a Star of David in the middle, are also banned because they too closely resemble the Israel flag.
“The issue [with the Jewish Pride flag] is where the Star of David is positioned in a way that looks like an Israeli flag, it creates an unsafe space,” she said. “It really is a shame that Israel took this symbol of Judaism and turned it into this nationalist symbol. … I understand the Jewish pride flag is a symbol that a lot of Jews have come to embrace, but there are so many other Jewish symbols that we can use to express our Judaism, like a Star of David [on a necklace], like a yarmulke, a tallit.”
Banning Israeli symbols from events advertised as inclusive is not new. In 2017, the Chicago Dyke March came under fire after ejecting three pro-LGBTQ marchers who were waving Jewish Pride flags. Organizers defended their decision by saying the ban was against Zionism, not Jews. Several organizations soon followed suit under the same argument, including Chicago SlutWalk. -
Don't waste your time benny, the Bob bros can't separate the state of Israel from the Jewish people in their minds. It requires too much critical thinking.BennyBeaver said:The march, which is returning to Washington after a 12-year hiatus, is seeking to be more radical than its previous version, including LGBTQ people of various races, religions, socioeconomic classes and gender identities, organizers told The Washington Post.
However, pro-Zionist and “nationalist symbols,” including Israeli and Jewish Pride flags, will not be welcomed at the event, organizers said.
Yael Horowitz, a Jewish march organizer, said the ban is a protest against “nations that have specific oppressive tendencies.”
“If someone would show up with an American flag but with the stripes as a rainbow, we would treat it the same way,” she told The Post. “I think what’s getting erased here is pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are very different things.”
The Palestinian flag, however, will be permitted, she added.
“Jewish stars and other identifications and celebrations of Jewishness (yarmulkes, tallit, other expressions of Judaism or Jewishness) are welcome and encouraged,” Ms. Horowitz said in a Facebook message explaining the decision, The Post reported. “We do ask that participants not bring pro-Israel paraphernalia in solidarity with our queer Palestinian friends.”
March organizer Rae Gaines, who is also Jewish, told the Forward that Jewish Pride flags, which are rainbow flags with a Star of David in the middle, are also banned because they too closely resemble the Israel flag.
“The issue [with the Jewish Pride flag] is where the Star of David is positioned in a way that looks like an Israeli flag, it creates an unsafe space,” she said. “It really is a shame that Israel took this symbol of Judaism and turned it into this nationalist symbol. … I understand the Jewish pride flag is a symbol that a lot of Jews have come to embrace, but there are so many other Jewish symbols that we can use to express our Judaism, like a Star of David [on a necklace], like a yarmulke, a tallit.”
Banning Israeli symbols from events advertised as inclusive is not new. In 2017, the Chicago Dyke March came under fire after ejecting three pro-LGBTQ marchers who were waving Jewish Pride flags. Organizers defended their decision by saying the ban was against Zionism, not Jews. Several organizations soon followed suit under the same argument, including Chicago SlutWalk. -
Hey Bob, if I denounce the North Korea government, does this mean I am bigoted against the North Korean people?
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Denounce away Kunt. The point still stands the only time I ever hear you liberal Kunts denounce an “ethnic” state is in reference to Israel.ZoneUW said:Hey Bob, if I denounce the North Korea government, does this mean I am bigoted against the North Korean people?
Since you love bringing up really shoddy parallels...
But I’m sure that has nothing to do with anti-Semitism -
Do you denounce the third reich?SFGbob said:
Denounce away Kunt. The point still stands the only time I ever hear you liberal Kunts denounce an “ethnic” state is in reference to Israel.ZoneUW said:Hey Bob, if I denounce the North Korea government, does this mean I am bigoted against the North Korean people?
Since you love bringing up really shoddy parallels...
But I’m sure that has nothing to do with anti-Semitism -
White flagZoneUW said:
Do you denounce the third reich?SFGbob said:
Denounce away Kunt. The point still stands the only time I ever hear you liberal Kunts denounce an “ethnic” state is in reference to Israel.ZoneUW said:Hey Bob, if I denounce the North Korea government, does this mean I am bigoted against the North Korean people?
Since you love bringing up really shoddy parallels...
But I’m sure that has nothing to do with anti-Semitism -
Wait, you're still defending this after reading the article?ZoneUW said:
Don't waste your time benny, the Bob bros can't separate the state of Israel from the Jewish people in their minds. It requires too much critical thinking.BennyBeaver said:The march, which is returning to Washington after a 12-year hiatus, is seeking to be more radical than its previous version, including LGBTQ people of various races, religions, socioeconomic classes and gender identities, organizers told The Washington Post.
However, pro-Zionist and “nationalist symbols,” including Israeli and Jewish Pride flags, will not be welcomed at the event, organizers said.
Yael Horowitz, a Jewish march organizer, said the ban is a protest against “nations that have specific oppressive tendencies.”
“If someone would show up with an American flag but with the stripes as a rainbow, we would treat it the same way,” she told The Post. “I think what’s getting erased here is pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are very different things.”
The Palestinian flag, however, will be permitted, she added.
“Jewish stars and other identifications and celebrations of Jewishness (yarmulkes, tallit, other expressions of Judaism or Jewishness) are welcome and encouraged,” Ms. Horowitz said in a Facebook message explaining the decision, The Post reported. “We do ask that participants not bring pro-Israel paraphernalia in solidarity with our queer Palestinian friends.”
March organizer Rae Gaines, who is also Jewish, told the Forward that Jewish Pride flags, which are rainbow flags with a Star of David in the middle, are also banned because they too closely resemble the Israel flag.
“The issue [with the Jewish Pride flag] is where the Star of David is positioned in a way that looks like an Israeli flag, it creates an unsafe space,” she said. “It really is a shame that Israel took this symbol of Judaism and turned it into this nationalist symbol. … I understand the Jewish pride flag is a symbol that a lot of Jews have come to embrace, but there are so many other Jewish symbols that we can use to express our Judaism, like a Star of David [on a necklace], like a yarmulke, a tallit.”
Banning Israeli symbols from events advertised as inclusive is not new. In 2017, the Chicago Dyke March came under fire after ejecting three pro-LGBTQ marchers who were waving Jewish Pride flags. Organizers defended their decision by saying the ban was against Zionism, not Jews. Several organizations soon followed suit under the same argument, including Chicago SlutWalk.
The event organizers are clearly picking and choosing what's offensive based on their own biased beliefs that have nothing to do with the event itself. If you're going to draw a line and say the state of Israel is bad, but the Palestinian Liberation Organization is okay, you're being a bigot. Worried about offending "our Palestinian sisters" but not giving a shit about their Israeli counterparts? Bigoted. I personally don't think it's being driven by antisemitism (more a misguided effort to promote social justice), but I sure as shit couldn't rebuke anyone who does make that claim.
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How is it possible for a reasonably intelligent person to have absolutely no grasp of power dynamics?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Wait, you're still defending this after reading the article?ZoneUW said:
Don't waste your time benny, the Bob bros can't separate the state of Israel from the Jewish people in their minds. It requires too much critical thinking.BennyBeaver said:The march, which is returning to Washington after a 12-year hiatus, is seeking to be more radical than its previous version, including LGBTQ people of various races, religions, socioeconomic classes and gender identities, organizers told The Washington Post.
However, pro-Zionist and “nationalist symbols,” including Israeli and Jewish Pride flags, will not be welcomed at the event, organizers said.
Yael Horowitz, a Jewish march organizer, said the ban is a protest against “nations that have specific oppressive tendencies.”
“If someone would show up with an American flag but with the stripes as a rainbow, we would treat it the same way,” she told The Post. “I think what’s getting erased here is pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are very different things.”
The Palestinian flag, however, will be permitted, she added.
“Jewish stars and other identifications and celebrations of Jewishness (yarmulkes, tallit, other expressions of Judaism or Jewishness) are welcome and encouraged,” Ms. Horowitz said in a Facebook message explaining the decision, The Post reported. “We do ask that participants not bring pro-Israel paraphernalia in solidarity with our queer Palestinian friends.”
March organizer Rae Gaines, who is also Jewish, told the Forward that Jewish Pride flags, which are rainbow flags with a Star of David in the middle, are also banned because they too closely resemble the Israel flag.
“The issue [with the Jewish Pride flag] is where the Star of David is positioned in a way that looks like an Israeli flag, it creates an unsafe space,” she said. “It really is a shame that Israel took this symbol of Judaism and turned it into this nationalist symbol. … I understand the Jewish pride flag is a symbol that a lot of Jews have come to embrace, but there are so many other Jewish symbols that we can use to express our Judaism, like a Star of David [on a necklace], like a yarmulke, a tallit.”
Banning Israeli symbols from events advertised as inclusive is not new. In 2017, the Chicago Dyke March came under fire after ejecting three pro-LGBTQ marchers who were waving Jewish Pride flags. Organizers defended their decision by saying the ban was against Zionism, not Jews. Several organizations soon followed suit under the same argument, including Chicago SlutWalk.
The event organizers are clearly picking and choosing what's offensive based on their own biased beliefs that have nothing to do with the event itself. If you're going to draw a line and say the state of Israel is bad, but the Palestinian Liberation Organization is okay, you're being a bigot. Worried about offending "our Palestinian sisters" but not giving a shit about their Israeli counterparts? Bigoted. I personally don't think it's being driven by antisemitism (more a misguided effort to promote social justice), but I sure as shit couldn't rebuke anyone who does make that claim.
Gays
Lesbians
transgenders
Palestinians
Mossad Operatives
One of these things is not like the others...
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You’re terrible at this. Stick around and you might take the crown from hondo.ZoneUW said:
How is it possible for a reasonably intelligent person to have absolutely no grasp of power dynamics?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Wait, you're still defending this after reading the article?ZoneUW said:
Don't waste your time benny, the Bob bros can't separate the state of Israel from the Jewish people in their minds. It requires too much critical thinking.BennyBeaver said:The march, which is returning to Washington after a 12-year hiatus, is seeking to be more radical than its previous version, including LGBTQ people of various races, religions, socioeconomic classes and gender identities, organizers told The Washington Post.
However, pro-Zionist and “nationalist symbols,” including Israeli and Jewish Pride flags, will not be welcomed at the event, organizers said.
Yael Horowitz, a Jewish march organizer, said the ban is a protest against “nations that have specific oppressive tendencies.”
“If someone would show up with an American flag but with the stripes as a rainbow, we would treat it the same way,” she told The Post. “I think what’s getting erased here is pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are very different things.”
The Palestinian flag, however, will be permitted, she added.
“Jewish stars and other identifications and celebrations of Jewishness (yarmulkes, tallit, other expressions of Judaism or Jewishness) are welcome and encouraged,” Ms. Horowitz said in a Facebook message explaining the decision, The Post reported. “We do ask that participants not bring pro-Israel paraphernalia in solidarity with our queer Palestinian friends.”
March organizer Rae Gaines, who is also Jewish, told the Forward that Jewish Pride flags, which are rainbow flags with a Star of David in the middle, are also banned because they too closely resemble the Israel flag.
“The issue [with the Jewish Pride flag] is where the Star of David is positioned in a way that looks like an Israeli flag, it creates an unsafe space,” she said. “It really is a shame that Israel took this symbol of Judaism and turned it into this nationalist symbol. … I understand the Jewish pride flag is a symbol that a lot of Jews have come to embrace, but there are so many other Jewish symbols that we can use to express our Judaism, like a Star of David [on a necklace], like a yarmulke, a tallit.”
Banning Israeli symbols from events advertised as inclusive is not new. In 2017, the Chicago Dyke March came under fire after ejecting three pro-LGBTQ marchers who were waving Jewish Pride flags. Organizers defended their decision by saying the ban was against Zionism, not Jews. Several organizations soon followed suit under the same argument, including Chicago SlutWalk.
The event organizers are clearly picking and choosing what's offensive based on their own biased beliefs that have nothing to do with the event itself. If you're going to draw a line and say the state of Israel is bad, but the Palestinian Liberation Organization is okay, you're being a bigot. Worried about offending "our Palestinian sisters" but not giving a shit about their Israeli counterparts? Bigoted. I personally don't think it's being driven by antisemitism (more a misguided effort to promote social justice), but I sure as shit couldn't rebuke anyone who does make that claim.
Gays
Lesbians
transgenders
Palestinians
Mossad Operatives
One of these things is not like the others... -
So is that the goal of an LGBT march, compensate for the power dynamics of peoples' heritages? That's a pretty sad deviation from a previously wonderful celebration.ZoneUW said:
How is it possible for a reasonably intelligent person to have absolutely no grasp of power dynamics?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Wait, you're still defending this after reading the article?ZoneUW said:
Don't waste your time benny, the Bob bros can't separate the state of Israel from the Jewish people in their minds. It requires too much critical thinking.BennyBeaver said:The march, which is returning to Washington after a 12-year hiatus, is seeking to be more radical than its previous version, including LGBTQ people of various races, religions, socioeconomic classes and gender identities, organizers told The Washington Post.
However, pro-Zionist and “nationalist symbols,” including Israeli and Jewish Pride flags, will not be welcomed at the event, organizers said.
Yael Horowitz, a Jewish march organizer, said the ban is a protest against “nations that have specific oppressive tendencies.”
“If someone would show up with an American flag but with the stripes as a rainbow, we would treat it the same way,” she told The Post. “I think what’s getting erased here is pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are very different things.”
The Palestinian flag, however, will be permitted, she added.
“Jewish stars and other identifications and celebrations of Jewishness (yarmulkes, tallit, other expressions of Judaism or Jewishness) are welcome and encouraged,” Ms. Horowitz said in a Facebook message explaining the decision, The Post reported. “We do ask that participants not bring pro-Israel paraphernalia in solidarity with our queer Palestinian friends.”
March organizer Rae Gaines, who is also Jewish, told the Forward that Jewish Pride flags, which are rainbow flags with a Star of David in the middle, are also banned because they too closely resemble the Israel flag.
“The issue [with the Jewish Pride flag] is where the Star of David is positioned in a way that looks like an Israeli flag, it creates an unsafe space,” she said. “It really is a shame that Israel took this symbol of Judaism and turned it into this nationalist symbol. … I understand the Jewish pride flag is a symbol that a lot of Jews have come to embrace, but there are so many other Jewish symbols that we can use to express our Judaism, like a Star of David [on a necklace], like a yarmulke, a tallit.”
Banning Israeli symbols from events advertised as inclusive is not new. In 2017, the Chicago Dyke March came under fire after ejecting three pro-LGBTQ marchers who were waving Jewish Pride flags. Organizers defended their decision by saying the ban was against Zionism, not Jews. Several organizations soon followed suit under the same argument, including Chicago SlutWalk.
The event organizers are clearly picking and choosing what's offensive based on their own biased beliefs that have nothing to do with the event itself. If you're going to draw a line and say the state of Israel is bad, but the Palestinian Liberation Organization is okay, you're being a bigot. Worried about offending "our Palestinian sisters" but not giving a shit about their Israeli counterparts? Bigoted. I personally don't think it's being driven by antisemitism (more a misguided effort to promote social justice), but I sure as shit couldn't rebuke anyone who does make that claim.
Gays
Lesbians
transgenders
Palestinians
Mossad Operatives
One of these things is not like the others...
And that doesn't address the fact that the PLO has a track record that is just as heinous as Israel's. That they did so from a position of relative oppression does not excuse murder and terrorism. Yet the organizers explicitly allow that flag to fly. -
I think the event organizers have a better grasp on the event and it's purpose than you do.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Wait, you're still defending this after reading the article?ZoneUW said:
Don't waste your time benny, the Bob bros can't separate the state of Israel from the Jewish people in their minds. It requires too much critical thinking.BennyBeaver said:The march, which is returning to Washington after a 12-year hiatus, is seeking to be more radical than its previous version, including LGBTQ people of various races, religions, socioeconomic classes and gender identities, organizers told The Washington Post.
However, pro-Zionist and “nationalist symbols,” including Israeli and Jewish Pride flags, will not be welcomed at the event, organizers said.
Yael Horowitz, a Jewish march organizer, said the ban is a protest against “nations that have specific oppressive tendencies.”
“If someone would show up with an American flag but with the stripes as a rainbow, we would treat it the same way,” she told The Post. “I think what’s getting erased here is pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are very different things.”
The Palestinian flag, however, will be permitted, she added.
“Jewish stars and other identifications and celebrations of Jewishness (yarmulkes, tallit, other expressions of Judaism or Jewishness) are welcome and encouraged,” Ms. Horowitz said in a Facebook message explaining the decision, The Post reported. “We do ask that participants not bring pro-Israel paraphernalia in solidarity with our queer Palestinian friends.”
March organizer Rae Gaines, who is also Jewish, told the Forward that Jewish Pride flags, which are rainbow flags with a Star of David in the middle, are also banned because they too closely resemble the Israel flag.
“The issue [with the Jewish Pride flag] is where the Star of David is positioned in a way that looks like an Israeli flag, it creates an unsafe space,” she said. “It really is a shame that Israel took this symbol of Judaism and turned it into this nationalist symbol. … I understand the Jewish pride flag is a symbol that a lot of Jews have come to embrace, but there are so many other Jewish symbols that we can use to express our Judaism, like a Star of David [on a necklace], like a yarmulke, a tallit.”
Banning Israeli symbols from events advertised as inclusive is not new. In 2017, the Chicago Dyke March came under fire after ejecting three pro-LGBTQ marchers who were waving Jewish Pride flags. Organizers defended their decision by saying the ban was against Zionism, not Jews. Several organizations soon followed suit under the same argument, including Chicago SlutWalk.
The event organizers are clearly picking and choosing what's offensive based on their own biased beliefs that have nothing to do with the event itself. If you're going to draw a line and say the state of Israel is bad, but the Palestinian Liberation Organization is okay, you're being a bigot. Worried about offending "our Palestinian sisters" but not giving a shit about their Israeli counterparts? Bigoted. I personally don't think it's being driven by antisemitism (more a misguided effort to promote social justice), but I sure as shit couldn't rebuke anyone who does make that claim. -
"PLO has a track record that is just as heinous as Israel's" I don't necessarily disagree with this in theory.GreenRiverGatorz said:
So is that the goal of an LGBT march, compensate for the power dynamics of peoples' heritages? That's a pretty sad deviation from a previously wonderful celebration.ZoneUW said:
How is it possible for a reasonably intelligent person to have absolutely no grasp of power dynamics?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Wait, you're still defending this after reading the article?ZoneUW said:
Don't waste your time benny, the Bob bros can't separate the state of Israel from the Jewish people in their minds. It requires too much critical thinking.BennyBeaver said:The march, which is returning to Washington after a 12-year hiatus, is seeking to be more radical than its previous version, including LGBTQ people of various races, religions, socioeconomic classes and gender identities, organizers told The Washington Post.
However, pro-Zionist and “nationalist symbols,” including Israeli and Jewish Pride flags, will not be welcomed at the event, organizers said.
Yael Horowitz, a Jewish march organizer, said the ban is a protest against “nations that have specific oppressive tendencies.”
“If someone would show up with an American flag but with the stripes as a rainbow, we would treat it the same way,” she told The Post. “I think what’s getting erased here is pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are very different things.”
The Palestinian flag, however, will be permitted, she added.
“Jewish stars and other identifications and celebrations of Jewishness (yarmulkes, tallit, other expressions of Judaism or Jewishness) are welcome and encouraged,” Ms. Horowitz said in a Facebook message explaining the decision, The Post reported. “We do ask that participants not bring pro-Israel paraphernalia in solidarity with our queer Palestinian friends.”
March organizer Rae Gaines, who is also Jewish, told the Forward that Jewish Pride flags, which are rainbow flags with a Star of David in the middle, are also banned because they too closely resemble the Israel flag.
“The issue [with the Jewish Pride flag] is where the Star of David is positioned in a way that looks like an Israeli flag, it creates an unsafe space,” she said. “It really is a shame that Israel took this symbol of Judaism and turned it into this nationalist symbol. … I understand the Jewish pride flag is a symbol that a lot of Jews have come to embrace, but there are so many other Jewish symbols that we can use to express our Judaism, like a Star of David [on a necklace], like a yarmulke, a tallit.”
Banning Israeli symbols from events advertised as inclusive is not new. In 2017, the Chicago Dyke March came under fire after ejecting three pro-LGBTQ marchers who were waving Jewish Pride flags. Organizers defended their decision by saying the ban was against Zionism, not Jews. Several organizations soon followed suit under the same argument, including Chicago SlutWalk.
The event organizers are clearly picking and choosing what's offensive based on their own biased beliefs that have nothing to do with the event itself. If you're going to draw a line and say the state of Israel is bad, but the Palestinian Liberation Organization is okay, you're being a bigot. Worried about offending "our Palestinian sisters" but not giving a shit about their Israeli counterparts? Bigoted. I personally don't think it's being driven by antisemitism (more a misguided effort to promote social justice), but I sure as shit couldn't rebuke anyone who does make that claim.
Gays
Lesbians
transgenders
Palestinians
Mossad Operatives
One of these things is not like the others...
And that doesn't address the fact that the PLO has a track record that is just as heinous as Israel's. That they did so from a position of relative oppression does not excuse murder and terrorism. Yet the organizers explicitly allow that flag to fly.
"That they did so from a position of relative oppression does not excuse murder and terrorism."
But if PLO has done things JUST AS HEINOUS, and Israel had more power and backing, how does this go on to justify Israel's actions that you say PLO is responding to in "JUST AS BAD" of a way.
As you point out someone else's hypocrisy, often you are just highlighting your own hypocrisy on the flip side. -
PurpleThrobber said:
Uhhh...JoobsZoneUW said:Do you support a white ethnostate? If not, why do you support a Jewish ethnostate but not a white one?
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Depending on your position on the victim totem poll discrimination and prejudice may be okayZoneUW said:
How is it possible for a reasonably intelligent person to have absolutely no grasp of power dynamics?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Wait, you're still defending this after reading the article?ZoneUW said:
Don't waste your time benny, the Bob bros can't separate the state of Israel from the Jewish people in their minds. It requires too much critical thinking.BennyBeaver said:The march, which is returning to Washington after a 12-year hiatus, is seeking to be more radical than its previous version, including LGBTQ people of various races, religions, socioeconomic classes and gender identities, organizers told The Washington Post.
However, pro-Zionist and “nationalist symbols,” including Israeli and Jewish Pride flags, will not be welcomed at the event, organizers said.
Yael Horowitz, a Jewish march organizer, said the ban is a protest against “nations that have specific oppressive tendencies.”
“If someone would show up with an American flag but with the stripes as a rainbow, we would treat it the same way,” she told The Post. “I think what’s getting erased here is pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are very different things.”
The Palestinian flag, however, will be permitted, she added.
“Jewish stars and other identifications and celebrations of Jewishness (yarmulkes, tallit, other expressions of Judaism or Jewishness) are welcome and encouraged,” Ms. Horowitz said in a Facebook message explaining the decision, The Post reported. “We do ask that participants not bring pro-Israel paraphernalia in solidarity with our queer Palestinian friends.”
March organizer Rae Gaines, who is also Jewish, told the Forward that Jewish Pride flags, which are rainbow flags with a Star of David in the middle, are also banned because they too closely resemble the Israel flag.
“The issue [with the Jewish Pride flag] is where the Star of David is positioned in a way that looks like an Israeli flag, it creates an unsafe space,” she said. “It really is a shame that Israel took this symbol of Judaism and turned it into this nationalist symbol. … I understand the Jewish pride flag is a symbol that a lot of Jews have come to embrace, but there are so many other Jewish symbols that we can use to express our Judaism, like a Star of David [on a necklace], like a yarmulke, a tallit.”
Banning Israeli symbols from events advertised as inclusive is not new. In 2017, the Chicago Dyke March came under fire after ejecting three pro-LGBTQ marchers who were waving Jewish Pride flags. Organizers defended their decision by saying the ban was against Zionism, not Jews. Several organizations soon followed suit under the same argument, including Chicago SlutWalk.
The event organizers are clearly picking and choosing what's offensive based on their own biased beliefs that have nothing to do with the event itself. If you're going to draw a line and say the state of Israel is bad, but the Palestinian Liberation Organization is okay, you're being a bigot. Worried about offending "our Palestinian sisters" but not giving a shit about their Israeli counterparts? Bigoted. I personally don't think it's being driven by antisemitism (more a misguided effort to promote social justice), but I sure as shit couldn't rebuke anyone who does make that claim.
Gays
Lesbians
transgenders
Palestinians
Mossad Operatives
One of these things is not like the others... -
Stop pandering....TurdBomber said:PurpleThrobber said:
Uhhh...JoobsZoneUW said:Do you support a white ethnostate? If not, why do you support a Jewish ethnostate but not a white one?
Oh wait
carry on -
This Yankoff has a special portal.BennyBeaver said:
Stop pandering....TurdBomber said:PurpleThrobber said:
Uhhh...JoobsZoneUW said:Do you support a white ethnostate? If not, why do you support a Jewish ethnostate but not a white one?
Oh wait
carry on -
Where are you seeing me justify anything from Israel? The PLO is responsible for countless murders of Israeli civilians. To allow their flag but not Israel's is hypocritical.ZoneUW said:
"PLO has a track record that is just as heinous as Israel's" I don't necessarily disagree with this in theory.GreenRiverGatorz said:
So is that the goal of an LGBT march, compensate for the power dynamics of peoples' heritages? That's a pretty sad deviation from a previously wonderful celebration.ZoneUW said:
How is it possible for a reasonably intelligent person to have absolutely no grasp of power dynamics?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Wait, you're still defending this after reading the article?ZoneUW said:
Don't waste your time benny, the Bob bros can't separate the state of Israel from the Jewish people in their minds. It requires too much critical thinking.BennyBeaver said:The march, which is returning to Washington after a 12-year hiatus, is seeking to be more radical than its previous version, including LGBTQ people of various races, religions, socioeconomic classes and gender identities, organizers told The Washington Post.
However, pro-Zionist and “nationalist symbols,” including Israeli and Jewish Pride flags, will not be welcomed at the event, organizers said.
Yael Horowitz, a Jewish march organizer, said the ban is a protest against “nations that have specific oppressive tendencies.”
“If someone would show up with an American flag but with the stripes as a rainbow, we would treat it the same way,” she told The Post. “I think what’s getting erased here is pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are very different things.”
The Palestinian flag, however, will be permitted, she added.
“Jewish stars and other identifications and celebrations of Jewishness (yarmulkes, tallit, other expressions of Judaism or Jewishness) are welcome and encouraged,” Ms. Horowitz said in a Facebook message explaining the decision, The Post reported. “We do ask that participants not bring pro-Israel paraphernalia in solidarity with our queer Palestinian friends.”
March organizer Rae Gaines, who is also Jewish, told the Forward that Jewish Pride flags, which are rainbow flags with a Star of David in the middle, are also banned because they too closely resemble the Israel flag.
“The issue [with the Jewish Pride flag] is where the Star of David is positioned in a way that looks like an Israeli flag, it creates an unsafe space,” she said. “It really is a shame that Israel took this symbol of Judaism and turned it into this nationalist symbol. … I understand the Jewish pride flag is a symbol that a lot of Jews have come to embrace, but there are so many other Jewish symbols that we can use to express our Judaism, like a Star of David [on a necklace], like a yarmulke, a tallit.”
Banning Israeli symbols from events advertised as inclusive is not new. In 2017, the Chicago Dyke March came under fire after ejecting three pro-LGBTQ marchers who were waving Jewish Pride flags. Organizers defended their decision by saying the ban was against Zionism, not Jews. Several organizations soon followed suit under the same argument, including Chicago SlutWalk.
The event organizers are clearly picking and choosing what's offensive based on their own biased beliefs that have nothing to do with the event itself. If you're going to draw a line and say the state of Israel is bad, but the Palestinian Liberation Organization is okay, you're being a bigot. Worried about offending "our Palestinian sisters" but not giving a shit about their Israeli counterparts? Bigoted. I personally don't think it's being driven by antisemitism (more a misguided effort to promote social justice), but I sure as shit couldn't rebuke anyone who does make that claim.
Gays
Lesbians
transgenders
Palestinians
Mossad Operatives
One of these things is not like the others...
And that doesn't address the fact that the PLO has a track record that is just as heinous as Israel's. That they did so from a position of relative oppression does not excuse murder and terrorism. Yet the organizers explicitly allow that flag to fly.
"That they did so from a position of relative oppression does not excuse murder and terrorism."
But if PLO has done things JUST AS HEINOUS, and Israel had more power and backing, how does this go on to justify Israel's actions that you say PLO is responding to in "JUST AS BAD" of a way.
As you point out someone else's hypocrisy, often you are just highlighting your own hypocrisy on the flip side. -
Yet no one ever gives Yella shit for his white ethno board
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What was this thread about again?TurdBomber said:PurpleThrobber said:
Uhhh...JoobsZoneUW said:Do you support a white ethnostate? If not, why do you support a Jewish ethnostate but not a white one?
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BennyBeaver said:
I think the event organizers have a better grasp on the event and it's purpose than you do.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Wait, you're still defending this after reading the article?ZoneUW said:
Don't waste your time benny, the Bob bros can't separate the state of Israel from the Jewish people in their minds. It requires too much critical thinking.BennyBeaver said:The march, which is returning to Washington after a 12-year hiatus, is seeking to be more radical than its previous version, including LGBTQ people of various races, religions, socioeconomic classes and gender identities, organizers told The Washington Post.
However, pro-Zionist and “nationalist symbols,” including Israeli and Jewish Pride flags, will not be welcomed at the event, organizers said.
Yael Horowitz, a Jewish march organizer, said the ban is a protest against “nations that have specific oppressive tendencies.”
“If someone would show up with an American flag but with the stripes as a rainbow, we would treat it the same way,” she told The Post. “I think what’s getting erased here is pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are very different things.”
The Palestinian flag, however, will be permitted, she added.
“Jewish stars and other identifications and celebrations of Jewishness (yarmulkes, tallit, other expressions of Judaism or Jewishness) are welcome and encouraged,” Ms. Horowitz said in a Facebook message explaining the decision, The Post reported. “We do ask that participants not bring pro-Israel paraphernalia in solidarity with our queer Palestinian friends.”
March organizer Rae Gaines, who is also Jewish, told the Forward that Jewish Pride flags, which are rainbow flags with a Star of David in the middle, are also banned because they too closely resemble the Israel flag.
“The issue [with the Jewish Pride flag] is where the Star of David is positioned in a way that looks like an Israeli flag, it creates an unsafe space,” she said. “It really is a shame that Israel took this symbol of Judaism and turned it into this nationalist symbol. … I understand the Jewish pride flag is a symbol that a lot of Jews have come to embrace, but there are so many other Jewish symbols that we can use to express our Judaism, like a Star of David [on a necklace], like a yarmulke, a tallit.”
Banning Israeli symbols from events advertised as inclusive is not new. In 2017, the Chicago Dyke March came under fire after ejecting three pro-LGBTQ marchers who were waving Jewish Pride flags. Organizers defended their decision by saying the ban was against Zionism, not Jews. Several organizations soon followed suit under the same argument, including Chicago SlutWalk.
The event organizers are clearly picking and choosing what's offensive based on their own biased beliefs that have nothing to do with the event itself. If you're going to draw a line and say the state of Israel is bad, but the Palestinian Liberation Organization is okay, you're being a bigot. Worried about offending "our Palestinian sisters" but not giving a shit about their Israeli counterparts? Bigoted. I personally don't think it's being driven by antisemitism (more a misguided effort to promote social justice), but I sure as shit couldn't rebuke anyone who does make that claim.
People have been throwing around the “White Flag” way too easily today.
But this I always trust the corches poast truly qualifies.
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It’s been a long day. You should put the phone down and catch some winks.ZoneUW said:
"PLO has a track record that is just as heinous as Israel's" I don't necessarily disagree with this in theory.GreenRiverGatorz said:
So is that the goal of an LGBT march, compensate for the power dynamics of peoples' heritages? That's a pretty sad deviation from a previously wonderful celebration.ZoneUW said:
How is it possible for a reasonably intelligent person to have absolutely no grasp of power dynamics?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Wait, you're still defending this after reading the article?ZoneUW said:
Don't waste your time benny, the Bob bros can't separate the state of Israel from the Jewish people in their minds. It requires too much critical thinking.BennyBeaver said:The march, which is returning to Washington after a 12-year hiatus, is seeking to be more radical than its previous version, including LGBTQ people of various races, religions, socioeconomic classes and gender identities, organizers told The Washington Post.
However, pro-Zionist and “nationalist symbols,” including Israeli and Jewish Pride flags, will not be welcomed at the event, organizers said.
Yael Horowitz, a Jewish march organizer, said the ban is a protest against “nations that have specific oppressive tendencies.”
“If someone would show up with an American flag but with the stripes as a rainbow, we would treat it the same way,” she told The Post. “I think what’s getting erased here is pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are very different things.”
The Palestinian flag, however, will be permitted, she added.
“Jewish stars and other identifications and celebrations of Jewishness (yarmulkes, tallit, other expressions of Judaism or Jewishness) are welcome and encouraged,” Ms. Horowitz said in a Facebook message explaining the decision, The Post reported. “We do ask that participants not bring pro-Israel paraphernalia in solidarity with our queer Palestinian friends.”
March organizer Rae Gaines, who is also Jewish, told the Forward that Jewish Pride flags, which are rainbow flags with a Star of David in the middle, are also banned because they too closely resemble the Israel flag.
“The issue [with the Jewish Pride flag] is where the Star of David is positioned in a way that looks like an Israeli flag, it creates an unsafe space,” she said. “It really is a shame that Israel took this symbol of Judaism and turned it into this nationalist symbol. … I understand the Jewish pride flag is a symbol that a lot of Jews have come to embrace, but there are so many other Jewish symbols that we can use to express our Judaism, like a Star of David [on a necklace], like a yarmulke, a tallit.”
Banning Israeli symbols from events advertised as inclusive is not new. In 2017, the Chicago Dyke March came under fire after ejecting three pro-LGBTQ marchers who were waving Jewish Pride flags. Organizers defended their decision by saying the ban was against Zionism, not Jews. Several organizations soon followed suit under the same argument, including Chicago SlutWalk.
The event organizers are clearly picking and choosing what's offensive based on their own biased beliefs that have nothing to do with the event itself. If you're going to draw a line and say the state of Israel is bad, but the Palestinian Liberation Organization is okay, you're being a bigot. Worried about offending "our Palestinian sisters" but not giving a shit about their Israeli counterparts? Bigoted. I personally don't think it's being driven by antisemitism (more a misguided effort to promote social justice), but I sure as shit couldn't rebuke anyone who does make that claim.
Gays
Lesbians
transgenders
Palestinians
Mossad Operatives
One of these things is not like the others...
And that doesn't address the fact that the PLO has a track record that is just as heinous as Israel's. That they did so from a position of relative oppression does not excuse murder and terrorism. Yet the organizers explicitly allow that flag to fly.
"That they did so from a position of relative oppression does not excuse murder and terrorism."
But if PLO has done things JUST AS HEINOUS, and Israel had more power and backing, how does this go on to justify Israel's actions that you say PLO is responding to in "JUST AS BAD" of a way.
As you point out someone else's hypocrisy, often you are just highlighting your own hypocrisy on the flip side. -
White Flag POTDsalemcoog said:
It’s been a long day. You should put the phone down and catch some winks.ZoneUW said:
"PLO has a track record that is just as heinous as Israel's" I don't necessarily disagree with this in theory.GreenRiverGatorz said:
So is that the goal of an LGBT march, compensate for the power dynamics of peoples' heritages? That's a pretty sad deviation from a previously wonderful celebration.ZoneUW said:
How is it possible for a reasonably intelligent person to have absolutely no grasp of power dynamics?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Wait, you're still defending this after reading the article?ZoneUW said:
Don't waste your time benny, the Bob bros can't separate the state of Israel from the Jewish people in their minds. It requires too much critical thinking.BennyBeaver said:The march, which is returning to Washington after a 12-year hiatus, is seeking to be more radical than its previous version, including LGBTQ people of various races, religions, socioeconomic classes and gender identities, organizers told The Washington Post.
However, pro-Zionist and “nationalist symbols,” including Israeli and Jewish Pride flags, will not be welcomed at the event, organizers said.
Yael Horowitz, a Jewish march organizer, said the ban is a protest against “nations that have specific oppressive tendencies.”
“If someone would show up with an American flag but with the stripes as a rainbow, we would treat it the same way,” she told The Post. “I think what’s getting erased here is pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are very different things.”
The Palestinian flag, however, will be permitted, she added.
“Jewish stars and other identifications and celebrations of Jewishness (yarmulkes, tallit, other expressions of Judaism or Jewishness) are welcome and encouraged,” Ms. Horowitz said in a Facebook message explaining the decision, The Post reported. “We do ask that participants not bring pro-Israel paraphernalia in solidarity with our queer Palestinian friends.”
March organizer Rae Gaines, who is also Jewish, told the Forward that Jewish Pride flags, which are rainbow flags with a Star of David in the middle, are also banned because they too closely resemble the Israel flag.
“The issue [with the Jewish Pride flag] is where the Star of David is positioned in a way that looks like an Israeli flag, it creates an unsafe space,” she said. “It really is a shame that Israel took this symbol of Judaism and turned it into this nationalist symbol. … I understand the Jewish pride flag is a symbol that a lot of Jews have come to embrace, but there are so many other Jewish symbols that we can use to express our Judaism, like a Star of David [on a necklace], like a yarmulke, a tallit.”
Banning Israeli symbols from events advertised as inclusive is not new. In 2017, the Chicago Dyke March came under fire after ejecting three pro-LGBTQ marchers who were waving Jewish Pride flags. Organizers defended their decision by saying the ban was against Zionism, not Jews. Several organizations soon followed suit under the same argument, including Chicago SlutWalk.
The event organizers are clearly picking and choosing what's offensive based on their own biased beliefs that have nothing to do with the event itself. If you're going to draw a line and say the state of Israel is bad, but the Palestinian Liberation Organization is okay, you're being a bigot. Worried about offending "our Palestinian sisters" but not giving a shit about their Israeli counterparts? Bigoted. I personally don't think it's being driven by antisemitism (more a misguided effort to promote social justice), but I sure as shit couldn't rebuke anyone who does make that claim.
Gays
Lesbians
transgenders
Palestinians
Mossad Operatives
One of these things is not like the others...
And that doesn't address the fact that the PLO has a track record that is just as heinous as Israel's. That they did so from a position of relative oppression does not excuse murder and terrorism. Yet the organizers explicitly allow that flag to fly.
"That they did so from a position of relative oppression does not excuse murder and terrorism."
But if PLO has done things JUST AS HEINOUS, and Israel had more power and backing, how does this go on to justify Israel's actions that you say PLO is responding to in "JUST AS BAD" of a way.
As you point out someone else's hypocrisy, often you are just highlighting your own hypocrisy on the flip side. -
Sounds like it’s beddy bye tim for Benny Boy as well. Sweet dreams.BennyBeaver said:
White Flag POTDsalemcoog said:
It’s been a long day. You should put the phone down and catch some winks.ZoneUW said:
"PLO has a track record that is just as heinous as Israel's" I don't necessarily disagree with this in theory.GreenRiverGatorz said:
So is that the goal of an LGBT march, compensate for the power dynamics of peoples' heritages? That's a pretty sad deviation from a previously wonderful celebration.ZoneUW said:
How is it possible for a reasonably intelligent person to have absolutely no grasp of power dynamics?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Wait, you're still defending this after reading the article?ZoneUW said:
Don't waste your time benny, the Bob bros can't separate the state of Israel from the Jewish people in their minds. It requires too much critical thinking.BennyBeaver said:The march, which is returning to Washington after a 12-year hiatus, is seeking to be more radical than its previous version, including LGBTQ people of various races, religions, socioeconomic classes and gender identities, organizers told The Washington Post.
However, pro-Zionist and “nationalist symbols,” including Israeli and Jewish Pride flags, will not be welcomed at the event, organizers said.
Yael Horowitz, a Jewish march organizer, said the ban is a protest against “nations that have specific oppressive tendencies.”
“If someone would show up with an American flag but with the stripes as a rainbow, we would treat it the same way,” she told The Post. “I think what’s getting erased here is pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are very different things.”
The Palestinian flag, however, will be permitted, she added.
“Jewish stars and other identifications and celebrations of Jewishness (yarmulkes, tallit, other expressions of Judaism or Jewishness) are welcome and encouraged,” Ms. Horowitz said in a Facebook message explaining the decision, The Post reported. “We do ask that participants not bring pro-Israel paraphernalia in solidarity with our queer Palestinian friends.”
March organizer Rae Gaines, who is also Jewish, told the Forward that Jewish Pride flags, which are rainbow flags with a Star of David in the middle, are also banned because they too closely resemble the Israel flag.
“The issue [with the Jewish Pride flag] is where the Star of David is positioned in a way that looks like an Israeli flag, it creates an unsafe space,” she said. “It really is a shame that Israel took this symbol of Judaism and turned it into this nationalist symbol. … I understand the Jewish pride flag is a symbol that a lot of Jews have come to embrace, but there are so many other Jewish symbols that we can use to express our Judaism, like a Star of David [on a necklace], like a yarmulke, a tallit.”
Banning Israeli symbols from events advertised as inclusive is not new. In 2017, the Chicago Dyke March came under fire after ejecting three pro-LGBTQ marchers who were waving Jewish Pride flags. Organizers defended their decision by saying the ban was against Zionism, not Jews. Several organizations soon followed suit under the same argument, including Chicago SlutWalk.
The event organizers are clearly picking and choosing what's offensive based on their own biased beliefs that have nothing to do with the event itself. If you're going to draw a line and say the state of Israel is bad, but the Palestinian Liberation Organization is okay, you're being a bigot. Worried about offending "our Palestinian sisters" but not giving a shit about their Israeli counterparts? Bigoted. I personally don't think it's being driven by antisemitism (more a misguided effort to promote social justice), but I sure as shit couldn't rebuke anyone who does make that claim.
Gays
Lesbians
transgenders
Palestinians
Mossad Operatives
One of these things is not like the others...
And that doesn't address the fact that the PLO has a track record that is just as heinous as Israel's. That they did so from a position of relative oppression does not excuse murder and terrorism. Yet the organizers explicitly allow that flag to fly.
"That they did so from a position of relative oppression does not excuse murder and terrorism."
But if PLO has done things JUST AS HEINOUS, and Israel had more power and backing, how does this go on to justify Israel's actions that you say PLO is responding to in "JUST AS BAD" of a way.
As you point out someone else's hypocrisy, often you are just highlighting your own hypocrisy on the flip side.
