@creepycoug just went *poof*. Too many references to Marx and you are on a watchlist.
It's God's [Stalin's] way of telling me to quit arguing with the retard.
I see we're down to liberal name calling. All the same. Never having lived in the world makes one sensitive. Having lived in the world I could give a hit what you or anyone else says. I've had more insults and threats than Trump. Like water off a ducks back.
Now go back to your Marxist studies. I know how interesting they were for you. Did you do Lenin, Engels, Mao, Stalin Krushchev and Ho too?
Betting you did at least some of them. Just to see. Getting sucked in in college isn't knew here but some of us resisted those washed up hippie professors.
The irony of you saying this to someone that fled communism is mind numbing.
@creepycoug just went *poof*. Too many references to Marx and you are on a watchlist.
It's God's [Stalin's] way of telling me to quit arguing with the retard.
I see we're down to liberal name calling. All the same. Never having lived in the world makes one sensitive. Having lived in the world I could give a hit what you or anyone else says. I've had more insults and threats than Trump. Like water off a ducks back.
Now go back to your Marxist studies. I know how interesting they were for you. Did you do Lenin, Engels, Mao, Stalin Krushchev and Ho too?
Betting you did at least some of them. Just to see. Getting sucked in in college isn't knew here but some of us resisted those washed up hippie professors.
What are you fucking twelve? JFC. When you put your dick in your mouth, you really go for it eh?
You've embarrassed yourself terribly in this thread. Even by your standards, this has been a spectacularly stupid performance.
@creepycoug just went *poof*. Too many references to Marx and you are on a watchlist.
It's God's [Stalin's] way of telling me to quit arguing with the retard.
I see we're down to liberal name calling. All the same. Never having lived in the world makes one sensitive. Having lived in the world I could give a hit what you or anyone else says. I've had more insults and threats than Trump. Like water off a ducks back.
Now go back to your Marxist studies. I know how interesting they were for you. Did you do Lenin, Engels, Mao, Stalin Krushchev and Ho too?
Betting you did at least some of them. Just to see. Getting sucked in in college isn't knew here but some of us resisted those washed up hippie professors.
The irony of you saying this to someone that fled communism is mind numbing.
@creepycoug just went *poof*. Too many references to Marx and you are on a watchlist.
It's God's [Stalin's] way of telling me to quit arguing with the retard.
I see we're down to liberal name calling. All the same. Never having lived in the world makes one sensitive. Having lived in the world I could give a hit what you or anyone else says. I've had more insults and threats than Trump. Like water off a ducks back.
Now go back to your Marxist studies. I know how interesting they were for you. Did you do Lenin, Engels, Mao, Stalin Krushchev and Ho too?
Betting you did at least some of them. Just to see. Getting sucked in in college isn't knew here but some of us resisted those washed up hippie professors.
The irony of you saying this to someone that fled communism is mind numbing.
Who fled communism?
And, still, the essential point eludes you.
Bad night for cops.
Well I don't recall. So many people so many stories. I know you have some Cuban/Spanish you were in Cuba? If so I am unaware.
So now you're whining like a little bitch when you get a dose of your own medicine? Just shut the fuck up while you've only proven to be 99% dip shit.
WTFC what I studied? Now you're the thought police Goebbels? Burn some books maybe? People study all kinds of shit that they don't plan to go out and build a life upon dumb dumb. I also studied the living shit out of Plato, and I yet I don't see myself basing most of my day-to-day actions taking into account the theory of forms. Econ majors, who go on to, you know, business careers, also study Marx. Some historians spend a lifetime studying Nazi Fascism, and yet are not trying to take over Western Europe in their private time. In fact, there are several other posters on this board who have studied Marx in quite some depth, including some who share your political leanings.
Wtf is so off with your brain that you can't get this? I said, in fairly plain English, that I'm not a Marxist. Is reading hard for you?
Spend more time with your goose-stepping buddies at the donut shop Cletus. They're more your speed.
Studying Marx isn't normal but rant on.
Who's whining? I simply pointed out your beliefs.
I've been called a lot worse.
No, you were whining alright. Like this:
Who's afraid of books? See their is your liberal bullshit again. Plant evidence? What a crock of shit. People get arrested because they commit crimes and get caught. It ain't like the show CSI you watch on TV. You probably think cops sit around saying "lets shoot a black guy tonight" at briefing too.
Blah blah blah. Copper doth protest way too much. That got under your saddle and you fucking know it. And you were too stupid to recognize that it was just return fire and jumped on it like a Cop to a bribe.
Studying Marx is not normal. Okie dokie Re-Run. Maybe for people like you who need a box of crayons when they read, you're probably right. But for those of us who got near a college campus, we think otherwise.
Ask Bob or @UW_Doog_Bot or @MikeDamone if they studied Marx and if they consider themselves abnormal. I'd bet a dime to one of your Copper donuts that they've all read Das Kapital.
You are struggling mightily today.
I studied Marx. Whether or not I’m abnormal is certainly a valid question.
Das Kapital, The Marx Engles Reader, Communist Manifesto. That’s how I know he was a bad economist. I read his books.
We have a bingo. Maybe Barny Fife can comprehend this version of the explanation. God knows all of my attempts missed badly.
If only the socialist fags here would read. I posted links for Hondo that were very basic. Henry Hazlitt, Hayek, Mises, Friedman. He would even take the time to read and formulate cohesive arguments. Waste of space. An emotional dip shit. 100% that Hondo hasn’t read Marx.
You posted those links when I was working 70-80 hours a week for a few weeks. When my schedule (you know, real life) calmed down a few weeks later. I asked for them again and you refused to provide them. For quite a while. I was genuinely interested in reading them. But you see Mike. I only use this forum on my phone and the search function on mobile is shit. And desktop site on mobile is shit.
So repost them. I'd even welcome a new thread that we can argue about shit.
So now you're whining like a little bitch when you get a dose of your own medicine? Just shut the fuck up while you've only proven to be 99% dip shit.
WTFC what I studied? Now you're the thought police Goebbels? Burn some books maybe? People study all kinds of shit that they don't plan to go out and build a life upon dumb dumb. I also studied the living shit out of Plato, and I yet I don't see myself basing most of my day-to-day actions taking into account the theory of forms. Econ majors, who go on to, you know, business careers, also study Marx. Some historians spend a lifetime studying Nazi Fascism, and yet are not trying to take over Western Europe in their private time. In fact, there are several other posters on this board who have studied Marx in quite some depth, including some who share your political leanings.
Wtf is so off with your brain that you can't get this? I said, in fairly plain English, that I'm not a Marxist. Is reading hard for you?
Spend more time with your goose-stepping buddies at the donut shop Cletus. They're more your speed.
Studying Marx isn't normal but rant on.
Who's whining? I simply pointed out your beliefs.
I've been called a lot worse.
No, you were whining alright. Like this:
Who's afraid of books? See their is your liberal bullshit again. Plant evidence? What a crock of shit. People get arrested because they commit crimes and get caught. It ain't like the show CSI you watch on TV. You probably think cops sit around saying "lets shoot a black guy tonight" at briefing too.
Blah blah blah. Copper doth protest way too much. That got under your saddle and you fucking know it. And you were too stupid to recognize that it was just return fire and jumped on it like a Cop to a bribe.
Studying Marx is not normal. Okie dokie Re-Run. Maybe for people like you who need a box of crayons when they read, you're probably right. But for those of us who got near a college campus, we think otherwise.
Ask Bob or @UW_Doog_Bot or @MikeDamone if they studied Marx and if they consider themselves abnormal. I'd bet a dime to one of your Copper donuts that they've all read Das Kapital.
You are struggling mightily today.
I studied Marx. Whether or not I’m abnormal is certainly a valid question.
Das Kapital, The Marx Engles Reader, Communist Manifesto. That’s how I know he was a bad economist. I read his books.
We have a bingo. Maybe Barny Fife can comprehend this version of the explanation. God knows all of my attempts missed badly.
If only the socialist fags here would read. I posted links for Hondo that were very basic. Henry Hazlitt, Hayek, Mises, Friedman. He would even take the time to read and formulate cohesive arguments. Waste of space. An emotional dip shit. 100% that Hondo hasn’t read Marx.
You posted those links when I was working 70-80 hours a week for a few weeks. When my schedule (you know, real life) calmed down a few weeks later. I asked for them again and you refused to provide them. For quite a while. I was genuinely interested in reading them. But you see Mike. I only use this forum on my phone and the search function on mobile is shit. And desktop site on mobile is shit.
So repost them. I'd even welcome a new thread that we can argue about shit.
El oh fucking el. The only thing you were spending 80 hours on is camping out here.
So many excuses. Fuck off. You’re. It genuinely interested in anything except excuses and lying. The links are still on the board. Find them yourself fuck stick. My god you’re pathetic
So now you're whining like a little bitch when you get a dose of your own medicine? Just shut the fuck up while you've only proven to be 99% dip shit.
WTFC what I studied? Now you're the thought police Goebbels? Burn some books maybe? People study all kinds of shit that they don't plan to go out and build a life upon dumb dumb. I also studied the living shit out of Plato, and I yet I don't see myself basing most of my day-to-day actions taking into account the theory of forms. Econ majors, who go on to, you know, business careers, also study Marx. Some historians spend a lifetime studying Nazi Fascism, and yet are not trying to take over Western Europe in their private time. In fact, there are several other posters on this board who have studied Marx in quite some depth, including some who share your political leanings.
Wtf is so off with your brain that you can't get this? I said, in fairly plain English, that I'm not a Marxist. Is reading hard for you?
Spend more time with your goose-stepping buddies at the donut shop Cletus. They're more your speed.
Studying Marx isn't normal but rant on.
Who's whining? I simply pointed out your beliefs.
I've been called a lot worse.
No, you were whining alright. Like this:
Who's afraid of books? See their is your liberal bullshit again. Plant evidence? What a crock of shit. People get arrested because they commit crimes and get caught. It ain't like the show CSI you watch on TV. You probably think cops sit around saying "lets shoot a black guy tonight" at briefing too.
Blah blah blah. Copper doth protest way too much. That got under your saddle and you fucking know it. And you were too stupid to recognize that it was just return fire and jumped on it like a Cop to a bribe.
Studying Marx is not normal. Okie dokie Re-Run. Maybe for people like you who need a box of crayons when they read, you're probably right. But for those of us who got near a college campus, we think otherwise.
Ask Bob or @UW_Doog_Bot or @MikeDamone if they studied Marx and if they consider themselves abnormal. I'd bet a dime to one of your Copper donuts that they've all read Das Kapital.
You are struggling mightily today.
I studied Marx. Whether or not I’m abnormal is certainly a valid question.
Das Kapital, The Marx Engles Reader, Communist Manifesto. That’s how I know he was a bad economist. I read his books.
We have a bingo. Maybe Barny Fife can comprehend this version of the explanation. God knows all of my attempts missed badly.
If only the socialist fags here would read. I posted links for Hondo that were very basic. Henry Hazlitt, Hayek, Mises, Friedman. He would even take the time to read and formulate cohesive arguments. Waste of space. An emotional dip shit. 100% that Hondo hasn’t read Marx.
You posted those links when I was working 70-80 hours a week for a few weeks. When my schedule (you know, real life) calmed down a few weeks later. I asked for them again and you refused to provide them. For quite a while. I was genuinely interested in reading them. But you see Mike. I only use this forum on my phone and the search function on mobile is shit. And desktop site on mobile is shit.
So repost them. I'd even welcome a new thread that we can argue about shit.
El oh fucking el. The only thing you were spending 80 hours on is camping out here.
So many excuses. Fuck off. You’re. It genuinely interested in anything except excuses and lying. The links are still on the board. Find them yourself fuck stick. My god you’re pathetic
Why are you afraid to post the links again Mike? Pussy
The dems spent 20 yrs radicalizing a generation by indoctrination in the public school system. That generation is now going to eat them.
I think one of the things pushing young folks to the left has been the cost of college and the debt many of these kids are incurring from their school expenses.
But you have to ask, who is running the schools? Who is making college so expensive? What is making housing so expensive in liberal run cities and states? It's not conservatives or conservative policies.
College Expense: I don't know for certain, but I've asked the same thing. I'm aware of a few things that must be drivers. For instance, most faculty get some kind of pension and they tend to have good healthcare coverage. Pensions, as even profitable corporations have found, are expensive af - a promise most wished they'd never made (see the many 8-K filings out there reporting pension transfer transactions numbering in the billions of $). Healthcare is everybody's million $ question. Professors don't make much money relative to their options, and so it seems these benefits have settled in as strongly market driven. It is a long and hard road to get a PhD, and not everyone has what it takes. These people tend to be expensive labor. The other thing that makes it expensive is the government and all the other sources of free money. Not everyone should or needs to go to college. Take the free money out of the equation, and I suspect the price would drop.
Liberal Run Cities: Again, I'm not the expert. But I would surmise that's it's almost entirely driven by good old fashioned supply and demand dynamics. SF, Seattle, Chicago, DC, Boston, Austin, LA, etc. are money towns. Commerce, capital formation, demand for expensive talent, etc. ... these things happen in those cities to a greater extent than they do elsewhere. I just got back from Indianapolis. Not as much going on there as there is here in Seattle, for example. I'm sure the liberal city councils and the extra taxes and fees and bullshit contribute to the expense, but I'm guessing it's a drop in the bucket relative to the main driver.
I agree that there is a supply and demand component driving university costs, but I would argue this from the perspective that there are too many youths attending college. I employ people who have college degrees and are performing jobs not related to their degree, and which do not require a degree to perform them. More trade schools, less college.
I would guess about 10% of those with BS degrees are actually working in a field that is related to their major. Most companies care about college because it proved that you could see something through for 4-5 years. I'd say it's a pretty expensive and mostly unnecessary litmus test for 81% of the jobs out there.
Double major Poly Sci and Econ. I kill bugs. This checks out.
So now you're whining like a little bitch when you get a dose of your own medicine? Just shut the fuck up while you've only proven to be 99% dip shit.
WTFC what I studied? Now you're the thought police Goebbels? Burn some books maybe? People study all kinds of shit that they don't plan to go out and build a life upon dumb dumb. I also studied the living shit out of Plato, and I yet I don't see myself basing most of my day-to-day actions taking into account the theory of forms. Econ majors, who go on to, you know, business careers, also study Marx. Some historians spend a lifetime studying Nazi Fascism, and yet are not trying to take over Western Europe in their private time. In fact, there are several other posters on this board who have studied Marx in quite some depth, including some who share your political leanings.
Wtf is so off with your brain that you can't get this? I said, in fairly plain English, that I'm not a Marxist. Is reading hard for you?
Spend more time with your goose-stepping buddies at the donut shop Cletus. They're more your speed.
Studying Marx isn't normal but rant on.
Who's whining? I simply pointed out your beliefs.
I've been called a lot worse.
No, you were whining alright. Like this:
Who's afraid of books? See their is your liberal bullshit again. Plant evidence? What a crock of shit. People get arrested because they commit crimes and get caught. It ain't like the show CSI you watch on TV. You probably think cops sit around saying "lets shoot a black guy tonight" at briefing too.
Blah blah blah. Copper doth protest way too much. That got under your saddle and you fucking know it. And you were too stupid to recognize that it was just return fire and jumped on it like a Cop to a bribe.
Studying Marx is not normal. Okie dokie Re-Run. Maybe for people like you who need a box of crayons when they read, you're probably right. But for those of us who got near a college campus, we think otherwise.
Ask Bob or @UW_Doog_Bot or @MikeDamone if they studied Marx and if they consider themselves abnormal. I'd bet a dime to one of your Copper donuts that they've all read Das Kapital.
You are struggling mightily today.
I studied Marx. Whether or not I’m abnormal is certainly a valid question.
Das Kapital, The Marx Engles Reader, Communist Manifesto. That’s how I know he was a bad economist. I read his books.
We have a bingo. Maybe Barny Fife can comprehend this version of the explanation. God knows all of my attempts missed badly.
If only the socialist fags here would read. I posted links for Hondo that were very basic. Henry Hazlitt, Hayek, Mises, Friedman. He would even take the time to read and formulate cohesive arguments. Waste of space. An emotional dip shit. 100% that Hondo hasn’t read Marx.
You posted those links when I was working 70-80 hours a week for a few weeks. When my schedule (you know, real life) calmed down a few weeks later. I asked for them again and you refused to provide them. For quite a while. I was genuinely interested in reading them. But you see Mike. I only use this forum on my phone and the search function on mobile is shit. And desktop site on mobile is shit.
So repost them. I'd even welcome a new thread that we can argue about shit.
Pure crap, Hondo had no problem running his mouth in other threads during the same time frame.
I also was a history major in the 70s, but at a time when actual history was analyzed and taught. Critical thinking and writing were rewarded and at the time there was little PC indoctrination and generally US history and Western civilization was a priority. Sociology and political science, however, were already thoroughly contaminated by the commies. Today, at even so-called religious institutions, like say Baylor, liberal arts at the major universities are regressive indoctrination centers not centers of learning. Look at AOC and her “economics” degree from Boston College. Journalism programs certainly are not promoting fair and balanced reporting. When free sh*t, lying and a lust for power are the driving forces behind todays little progressive fascists – then our educational institutions are complete failures.
This cuts both ways. It sounds like you're all about indoctrination as long as it's the right kind. That's not education. That's indoctrination. Her econ degree, from Boston University, isn't to blame for her values and her beliefs. She is smarter than a good chunk of the dummies in Congress. I think that's pretty plain to see. But she's also an unrealistic dreamer who is carrying a torch for something related to her upbringing ... or something. That doesn't make her stupid any more than Marxist philosophy made Lenin stupid. I know stupid when I see it. She's terribly misguided, inexperienced, young and likely a little damaged from something. But not stupid.
I think you take an exaggerated and selective view of our educational institutions. They pump out smart and effective people who are taught to think. My kid just graduated from a place you no doubt would score as an indoctrination center, and the the truth on the ground is that it's not really true. It's a liberal place, because young smart kids often tend to question and are full of idealism because life hasn't beaten it out of them yet. And still, kids are going on to all manner of places and careers that are hardly bastions of socialist thought.
Sure, they question things a lot. That's what you should be doing right after college. There's nothing wrong with studying view points outside of the boundaries you mention above. I am certain that Plato, Aristotle and Socrates would ask you what you're so afraid of. Critical examination of the "other" didn't frighten them. I'm about as capitalist as they come. Talk about indoctrination - when your family lost everything it had to a Marxist revolution, you get pretty well indoctrinated. But I spent a lot of time at Washington studying Marx. And that made me a better thinker. Hiding me from it would have rendered me a lesser educated person. I have a pretty good understanding of historical materialism and Marxist thought, and yet I believe that at this point in human history, capitalism, ever so tweaked at the margins, is still the best system for us. My advisor in the Philo department, Ken Clatterbaugh, was a card-carrying Marxist and one of the best and smartest professors I ever had. He also wrote my recommendation to law school.
I also was a history major in the 70s, but at a time when actual history was analyzed and taught. Critical thinking and writing were rewarded and at the time there was little PC indoctrination and generally US history and Western civilization was a priority. Sociology and political science, however, were already thoroughly contaminated by the commies. Today, at even so-called religious institutions, like say Baylor, liberal arts at the major universities are regressive indoctrination centers not centers of learning. Look at AOC and her “economics” degree from Boston College. Journalism programs certainly are not promoting fair and balanced reporting. When free sh*t, lying and a lust for power are the driving forces behind todays little progressive fascists – then our educational institutions are complete failures.
This cuts both ways. It sounds like you're all about indoctrination as long as it's the right kind. That's not education. That's indoctrination. Her econ degree, from Boston University, isn't to blame for her values and her beliefs. She is smarter than a good chunk of the dummies in Congress. I think that's pretty plain to see. But she's also an unrealistic dreamer who is carrying a torch for something related to her upbringing ... or something. That doesn't make her stupid any more than Marxist philosophy made Lenin stupid. I know stupid when I see it. She's terribly misguided, inexperienced, young and likely a little damaged from something. But not stupid.
I think you take an exaggerated and selective view of our educational institutions. They pump out smart and effective people who are taught to think. My kid just graduated from a place you no doubt would score as an indoctrination center, and the the truth on the ground is that it's not really true. It's a liberal place, because young smart kids often tend to question and are full of idealism because life hasn't beaten it out of them yet. And still, kids are going on to all manner of places and careers that are hardly bastions of socialist thought.
Sure, they question things a lot. That's what you should be doing right after college. There's nothing wrong with studying view points outside of the boundaries you mention above. I am certain that Plato, Aristotle and Socrates would ask you what you're so afraid of. Critical examination of the "other" didn't frighten them. I'm about as capitalist as they come. Talk about indoctrination - when your family lost everything it had to a Marxist revolution, you get pretty well indoctrinated. But I spent a lot of time at Washington studying Marx. And that made me a better thinker. Hiding me from it would have rendered me a lesser educated person. I have a pretty good understanding of historical materialism and Marxist thought, and yet I believe that at this point in human history, capitalism, ever so tweaked at the margins, is still the best system for us. My advisor in the Philo department, Ken Clatterbaugh, was a card-carrying Marxist and one of the best and smartest professors I ever had. He also wrote my recommendation to law school.
And, still, here I am, humping for the man.
The sky is not falling. Relax.
Hahahaha adding to the list of rasins I secretly like the creep. I'm pretty sure Clatterbaugh was one of the people that convinced me living in Academia was a sure fire way to have a myopic philosophy despite being extremely smart. As much as I loved philosophy I felt you have to go out into the world to seek experience for understanding rather than just spend more time in a classroom.
I agree with that 100%. It applies across the academic spectrum too. I was speaking to one of my D's professors (science guy) about this and that after graduation, and he actually said out loud in response to something I said that he was glad I mentioned what I mentioned because "I'm in a bit of a bubble here."
Still, Ken was one of the professors who taught me how to think. Not "what" to think, but "how" to think. He didn't mind if I blasted Marx in a paper. But he insisted I do more than base my view on simplistic emotional bleeding, as our local retired cop tends to favor. To do well there, I had to understand Marx to begin with before I could write about a paper about anything having to do with it.
The Philo department at UW is a hidden gem. I assume they're still safely tucked away up on the top floor of Savory Hall where 98% of the student population don't dare (or care to) set foot. I remember how shocked people outside the major were when their shit papers would come back full of red ink and a "D+" grade on it. People think that department and major is easy. It really isn't.
I got my ass handed to me in a "Philosophy of Asian Religions" course in Savory. My ass hurt for weeks taking that class. Philo was no joke.
edit: Did well in a Logic course there, but that was harder than I thought it would be as well. I basically took these two courses the same quarter thinking they would be easy A's, because I think I had business statistics and some other math class for Econ that quarter as well, and instead ended up getting raped by the Philo courses so I never took another one. No easy A in Philo. Fuckers.
I also was a history major in the 70s, but at a time when actual history was analyzed and taught. Critical thinking and writing were rewarded and at the time there was little PC indoctrination and generally US history and Western civilization was a priority. Sociology and political science, however, were already thoroughly contaminated by the commies. Today, at even so-called religious institutions, like say Baylor, liberal arts at the major universities are regressive indoctrination centers not centers of learning. Look at AOC and her “economics” degree from Boston College. Journalism programs certainly are not promoting fair and balanced reporting. When free sh*t, lying and a lust for power are the driving forces behind todays little progressive fascists – then our educational institutions are complete failures.
This cuts both ways. It sounds like you're all about indoctrination as long as it's the right kind. That's not education. That's indoctrination. Her econ degree, from Boston University, isn't to blame for her values and her beliefs. She is smarter than a good chunk of the dummies in Congress. I think that's pretty plain to see. But she's also an unrealistic dreamer who is carrying a torch for something related to her upbringing ... or something. That doesn't make her stupid any more than Marxist philosophy made Lenin stupid. I know stupid when I see it. She's terribly misguided, inexperienced, young and likely a little damaged from something. But not stupid.
I think you take an exaggerated and selective view of our educational institutions. They pump out smart and effective people who are taught to think. My kid just graduated from a place you no doubt would score as an indoctrination center, and the the truth on the ground is that it's not really true. It's a liberal place, because young smart kids often tend to question and are full of idealism because life hasn't beaten it out of them yet. And still, kids are going on to all manner of places and careers that are hardly bastions of socialist thought.
Sure, they question things a lot. That's what you should be doing right after college. There's nothing wrong with studying view points outside of the boundaries you mention above. I am certain that Plato, Aristotle and Socrates would ask you what you're so afraid of. Critical examination of the "other" didn't frighten them. I'm about as capitalist as they come. Talk about indoctrination - when your family lost everything it had to a Marxist revolution, you get pretty well indoctrinated. But I spent a lot of time at Washington studying Marx. And that made me a better thinker. Hiding me from it would have rendered me a lesser educated person. I have a pretty good understanding of historical materialism and Marxist thought, and yet I believe that at this point in human history, capitalism, ever so tweaked at the margins, is still the best system for us. My advisor in the Philo department, Ken Clatterbaugh, was a card-carrying Marxist and one of the best and smartest professors I ever had. He also wrote my recommendation to law school.
And, still, here I am, humping for the man.
The sky is not falling. Relax.
Hahahaha adding to the list of rasins I secretly like the creep. I'm pretty sure Clatterbaugh was one of the people that convinced me living in Academia was a sure fire way to have a myopic philosophy despite being extremely smart. As much as I loved philosophy I felt you have to go out into the world to seek experience for understanding rather than just spend more time in a classroom.
I agree with that 100%. It applies across the academic spectrum too. I was speaking to one of my D's professors (science guy) about this and that after graduation, and he actually said out loud in response to something I said that he was glad I mentioned what I mentioned because "I'm in a bit of a bubble here."
Still, Ken was one of the professors who taught me how to think. Not "what" to think, but "how" to think. He didn't mind if I blasted Marx in a paper. But he insisted I do more than base my view on simplistic emotional bleeding, as our local retired cop tends to favor. To do well there, I had to understand Marx to begin with before I could write about a paper about anything having to do with it.
The Philo department at UW is a hidden gem. I assume they're still safely tucked away up on the top floor of Savory Hall where 98% of the student population don't dare (or care to) set foot. I remember how shocked people outside the major were when their shit papers would come back full of red ink and a "D+" grade on it. People think that department and major is easy. It really isn't.
I got my ass handed to me in a "Philosophy of Asian Religions" course in Savory. My ass hurt for weeks taking that class. Philo was no joke.
edit: Did well in a Logic course there, but that was harder than I thought it would be as well. I basically took these two courses the same quarter thinking they would be easy A's, because I think I had business statistics and some other math class for Econ that quarter as well, and instead ended up getting raped by the Philo courses so I never took another one. No easy A in Philo. Fuckers.
Most people I know did fine in intro to logic. 120. Then some tried intermediate, and many were uncomfortable but go through and said "no mas". The brave who went to advanced didn't enjoy it. All classes were also full of math and the version of comp. sci that existed back then.
@creepycoug just went *poof*. Too many references to Marx and you are on a watchlist.
It's God's [Stalin's] way of telling me to quit arguing with the retard.
I see we're down to liberal name calling. All the same. Never having lived in the world makes one sensitive. Having lived in the world I could give a hit what you or anyone else says. I've had more insults and threats than Trump. Like water off a ducks back.
Now go back to your Marxist studies. I know how interesting they were for you. Did you do Lenin, Engels, Mao, Stalin Krushchev and Ho too?
Betting you did at least some of them. Just to see. Getting sucked in in college isn't knew here but some of us resisted those washed up hippie professors.
The irony of you saying this to someone that fled communism is mind numbing.
Who fled communism?
And, still, the essential point eludes you.
Bad night for cops.
Well I don't recall. So many people so many stories. I know you have some Cuban/Spanish you were in Cuba? If so I am unaware.
Eludes? Maybe. Don't know definitely.
I used to think your routine was a schtick.
Now I'm more convinced that you are an actual moron in real life. Either born that way or serious head trauma in your Copper life.
@creepycoug just went *poof*. Too many references to Marx and you are on a watchlist.
It's God's [Stalin's] way of telling me to quit arguing with the retard.
I see we're down to liberal name calling. All the same. Never having lived in the world makes one sensitive. Having lived in the world I could give a hit what you or anyone else says. I've had more insults and threats than Trump. Like water off a ducks back.
Now go back to your Marxist studies. I know how interesting they were for you. Did you do Lenin, Engels, Mao, Stalin Krushchev and Ho too?
Betting you did at least some of them. Just to see. Getting sucked in in college isn't knew here but some of us resisted those washed up hippie professors.
The irony of you saying this to someone that fled communism is mind numbing.
Who fled communism?
And, still, the essential point eludes you.
Bad night for cops.
Well I don't recall. So many people so many stories. I know you have some Cuban/Spanish you were in Cuba? If so I am unaware.
Eludes? Maybe. Don't know definitely.
I used to think your routine was a schtick.
Now I'm more convinced that you are an actual moron in real life. Either born that way or serious head trauma in your Copper life.
@creepycoug just went *poof*. Too many references to Marx and you are on a watchlist.
It's God's [Stalin's] way of telling me to quit arguing with the retard.
I see we're down to liberal name calling. All the same. Never having lived in the world makes one sensitive. Having lived in the world I could give a hit what you or anyone else says. I've had more insults and threats than Trump. Like water off a ducks back.
Now go back to your Marxist studies. I know how interesting they were for you. Did you do Lenin, Engels, Mao, Stalin Krushchev and Ho too?
Betting you did at least some of them. Just to see. Getting sucked in in college isn't knew here but some of us resisted those washed up hippie professors.
The irony of you saying this to someone that fled communism is mind numbing.
Who fled communism?
And, still, the essential point eludes you.
Bad night for cops.
Well I don't recall. So many people so many stories. I know you have some Cuban/Spanish you were in Cuba? If so I am unaware.
Eludes? Maybe. Don't know definitely.
I used to think your routine was a schtick.
Now I'm more convinced that you are an actual moron in real life. Either born that way or serious head trauma in your Copper life.
Either way, you're fucking stupid.
I don't know your life story. Nor do i, at this point, give two shits. You are definitely an attorney. Petty. HTH
I also was a history major in the 70s, but at a time when actual history was analyzed and taught. Critical thinking and writing were rewarded and at the time there was little PC indoctrination and generally US history and Western civilization was a priority. Sociology and political science, however, were already thoroughly contaminated by the commies. Today, at even so-called religious institutions, like say Baylor, liberal arts at the major universities are regressive indoctrination centers not centers of learning. Look at AOC and her “economics” degree from Boston College. Journalism programs certainly are not promoting fair and balanced reporting. When free sh*t, lying and a lust for power are the driving forces behind todays little progressive fascists – then our educational institutions are complete failures.
This cuts both ways. It sounds like you're all about indoctrination as long as it's the right kind. That's not education. That's indoctrination. Her econ degree, from Boston University, isn't to blame for her values and her beliefs. She is smarter than a good chunk of the dummies in Congress. I think that's pretty plain to see. But she's also an unrealistic dreamer who is carrying a torch for something related to her upbringing ... or something. That doesn't make her stupid any more than Marxist philosophy made Lenin stupid. I know stupid when I see it. She's terribly misguided, inexperienced, young and likely a little damaged from something. But not stupid.
I think you take an exaggerated and selective view of our educational institutions. They pump out smart and effective people who are taught to think. My kid just graduated from a place you no doubt would score as an indoctrination center, and the the truth on the ground is that it's not really true. It's a liberal place, because young smart kids often tend to question and are full of idealism because life hasn't beaten it out of them yet. And still, kids are going on to all manner of places and careers that are hardly bastions of socialist thought.
Sure, they question things a lot. That's what you should be doing right after college. There's nothing wrong with studying view points outside of the boundaries you mention above. I am certain that Plato, Aristotle and Socrates would ask you what you're so afraid of. Critical examination of the "other" didn't frighten them. I'm about as capitalist as they come. Talk about indoctrination - when your family lost everything it had to a Marxist revolution, you get pretty well indoctrinated. But I spent a lot of time at Washington studying Marx. And that made me a better thinker. Hiding me from it would have rendered me a lesser educated person. I have a pretty good understanding of historical materialism and Marxist thought, and yet I believe that at this point in human history, capitalism, ever so tweaked at the margins, is still the best system for us. My advisor in the Philo department, Ken Clatterbaugh, was a card-carrying Marxist and one of the best and smartest professors I ever had. He also wrote my recommendation to law school.
And, still, here I am, humping for the man.
The sky is not falling. Relax.
Hahahaha adding to the list of rasins I secretly like the creep. I'm pretty sure Clatterbaugh was one of the people that convinced me living in Academia was a sure fire way to have a myopic philosophy despite being extremely smart. As much as I loved philosophy I felt you have to go out into the world to seek experience for understanding rather than just spend more time in a classroom.
I agree with that 100%. It applies across the academic spectrum too. I was speaking to one of my D's professors (science guy) about this and that after graduation, and he actually said out loud in response to something I said that he was glad I mentioned what I mentioned because "I'm in a bit of a bubble here."
Still, Ken was one of the professors who taught me how to think. Not "what" to think, but "how" to think. He didn't mind if I blasted Marx in a paper. But he insisted I do more than base my view on simplistic emotional bleeding, as our local retired cop tends to favor. To do well there, I had to understand Marx to begin with before I could write about a paper about anything having to do with it.
The Philo department at UW is a hidden gem. I assume they're still safely tucked away up on the top floor of Savory Hall where 98% of the student population don't dare (or care to) set foot. I remember how shocked people outside the major were when their shit papers would come back full of red ink and a "D+" grade on it. People think that department and major is easy. It really isn't.
I got my ass handed to me in a "Philosophy of Asian Religions" course in Savory. My ass hurt for weeks taking that class. Philo was no joke.
edit: Did well in a Logic course there, but that was harder than I thought it would be as well. I basically took these two courses the same quarter thinking they would be easy A's, because I think I had business statistics and some other math class for Econ that quarter as well, and instead ended up getting raped by the Philo courses so I never took another one. No easy A in Philo. Fuckers.
Most people I know did fine in intro to logic. 120. Then some tried intermediate, and many were uncomfortable but go through and said "no mas". The brave who went to advanced didn't enjoy it. All classes were also full of math and the version of comp. sci that existed back then.
bleh on logic at UW, it's completely centered around symbolic logic as a service to as you mentioned, Comp sci and math majors taking the course. It really does a disservice to anyone else attempting to take logic to, you know, learn logical argumentation.
@creepycoug just went *poof*. Too many references to Marx and you are on a watchlist.
It's God's [Stalin's] way of telling me to quit arguing with the retard.
I see we're down to liberal name calling. All the same. Never having lived in the world makes one sensitive. Having lived in the world I could give a hit what you or anyone else says. I've had more insults and threats than Trump. Like water off a ducks back.
Now go back to your Marxist studies. I know how interesting they were for you. Did you do Lenin, Engels, Mao, Stalin Krushchev and Ho too?
Betting you did at least some of them. Just to see. Getting sucked in in college isn't knew here but some of us resisted those washed up hippie professors.
The irony of you saying this to someone that fled communism is mind numbing.
Who fled communism?
And, still, the essential point eludes you.
Bad night for cops.
Well I don't recall. So many people so many stories. I know you have some Cuban/Spanish you were in Cuba? If so I am unaware.
Eludes? Maybe. Don't know definitely.
I used to think your routine was a schtick.
Now I'm more convinced that you are an actual moron in real life. Either born that way or serious head trauma in your Copper life.
@creepycoug just went *poof*. Too many references to Marx and you are on a watchlist.
It's God's [Stalin's] way of telling me to quit arguing with the retard.
I see we're down to liberal name calling. All the same. Never having lived in the world makes one sensitive. Having lived in the world I could give a hit what you or anyone else says. I've had more insults and threats than Trump. Like water off a ducks back.
Now go back to your Marxist studies. I know how interesting they were for you. Did you do Lenin, Engels, Mao, Stalin Krushchev and Ho too?
Betting you did at least some of them. Just to see. Getting sucked in in college isn't knew here but some of us resisted those washed up hippie professors.
The irony of you saying this to someone that fled communism is mind numbing.
Who fled communism?
And, still, the essential point eludes you.
Bad night for cops.
Well I don't recall. So many people so many stories. I know you have some Cuban/Spanish you were in Cuba? If so I am unaware.
Eludes? Maybe. Don't know definitely.
I used to think your routine was a schtick.
Now I'm more convinced that you are an actual moron in real life. Either born that way or serious head trauma in your Copper life.
Either way, you're fucking stupid.
I don't know your life story. Nor do i, at this point, give two shits. You are definitely an attorney. Petty. HTH
I don't know your life story. Nor do i, at this point, give two shits. You are definitely a donut-shop frequenting, evidence-planting, dishonest ex-Copper.
I also was a history major in the 70s, but at a time when actual history was analyzed and taught. Critical thinking and writing were rewarded and at the time there was little PC indoctrination and generally US history and Western civilization was a priority. Sociology and political science, however, were already thoroughly contaminated by the commies. Today, at even so-called religious institutions, like say Baylor, liberal arts at the major universities are regressive indoctrination centers not centers of learning. Look at AOC and her “economics” degree from Boston College. Journalism programs certainly are not promoting fair and balanced reporting. When free sh*t, lying and a lust for power are the driving forces behind todays little progressive fascists – then our educational institutions are complete failures.
This cuts both ways. It sounds like you're all about indoctrination as long as it's the right kind. That's not education. That's indoctrination. Her econ degree, from Boston University, isn't to blame for her values and her beliefs. She is smarter than a good chunk of the dummies in Congress. I think that's pretty plain to see. But she's also an unrealistic dreamer who is carrying a torch for something related to her upbringing ... or something. That doesn't make her stupid any more than Marxist philosophy made Lenin stupid. I know stupid when I see it. She's terribly misguided, inexperienced, young and likely a little damaged from something. But not stupid.
I think you take an exaggerated and selective view of our educational institutions. They pump out smart and effective people who are taught to think. My kid just graduated from a place you no doubt would score as an indoctrination center, and the the truth on the ground is that it's not really true. It's a liberal place, because young smart kids often tend to question and are full of idealism because life hasn't beaten it out of them yet. And still, kids are going on to all manner of places and careers that are hardly bastions of socialist thought.
Sure, they question things a lot. That's what you should be doing right after college. There's nothing wrong with studying view points outside of the boundaries you mention above. I am certain that Plato, Aristotle and Socrates would ask you what you're so afraid of. Critical examination of the "other" didn't frighten them. I'm about as capitalist as they come. Talk about indoctrination - when your family lost everything it had to a Marxist revolution, you get pretty well indoctrinated. But I spent a lot of time at Washington studying Marx. And that made me a better thinker. Hiding me from it would have rendered me a lesser educated person. I have a pretty good understanding of historical materialism and Marxist thought, and yet I believe that at this point in human history, capitalism, ever so tweaked at the margins, is still the best system for us. My advisor in the Philo department, Ken Clatterbaugh, was a card-carrying Marxist and one of the best and smartest professors I ever had. He also wrote my recommendation to law school.
And, still, here I am, humping for the man.
The sky is not falling. Relax.
Hahahaha adding to the list of rasins I secretly like the creep. I'm pretty sure Clatterbaugh was one of the people that convinced me living in Academia was a sure fire way to have a myopic philosophy despite being extremely smart. As much as I loved philosophy I felt you have to go out into the world to seek experience for understanding rather than just spend more time in a classroom.
I agree with that 100%. It applies across the academic spectrum too. I was speaking to one of my D's professors (science guy) about this and that after graduation, and he actually said out loud in response to something I said that he was glad I mentioned what I mentioned because "I'm in a bit of a bubble here."
Still, Ken was one of the professors who taught me how to think. Not "what" to think, but "how" to think. He didn't mind if I blasted Marx in a paper. But he insisted I do more than base my view on simplistic emotional bleeding, as our local retired cop tends to favor. To do well there, I had to understand Marx to begin with before I could write about a paper about anything having to do with it.
The Philo department at UW is a hidden gem. I assume they're still safely tucked away up on the top floor of Savory Hall where 98% of the student population don't dare (or care to) set foot. I remember how shocked people outside the major were when their shit papers would come back full of red ink and a "D+" grade on it. People think that department and major is easy. It really isn't.
I got my ass handed to me in a "Philosophy of Asian Religions" course in Savory. My ass hurt for weeks taking that class. Philo was no joke.
edit: Did well in a Logic course there, but that was harder than I thought it would be as well. I basically took these two courses the same quarter thinking they would be easy A's, because I think I had business statistics and some other math class for Econ that quarter as well, and instead ended up getting raped by the Philo courses so I never took another one. No easy A in Philo. Fuckers.
Most people I know did fine in intro to logic. 120. Then some tried intermediate, and many were uncomfortable but go through and said "no mas". The brave who went to advanced didn't enjoy it. All classes were also full of math and the version of comp. sci that existed back then.
bleh on logic at UW, it's completely centered around symbolic logic as a service to as you mentioned, Comp sci and math majors taking the course. It really does a disservice to anyone else attempting to take logic to, you know, learn logical argumentation.
Yeah, that's what sucked about it. I thought I was taking some debate prep type logic class and instead basically got my third math class of the quarter. FML.
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You've embarrassed yourself terribly in this thread. Even by your standards, this has been a spectacularly stupid performance.
Just go sleep it off stupid.
Bad night for cops.
Eludes? Maybe. Don't know definitely.
So repost them. I'd even welcome a new thread that we can argue about shit.
So many excuses. Fuck off. You’re. It genuinely interested in anything except excuses and lying. The links are still on the board. Find them yourself fuck stick. My god you’re pathetic
edit: Did well in a Logic course there, but that was harder than I thought it would be as well. I basically took these two courses the same quarter thinking they would be easy A's, because I think I had business statistics and some other math class for Econ that quarter as well, and instead ended up getting raped by the Philo courses so I never took another one. No easy A in Philo. Fuckers.
Now I'm more convinced that you are an actual moron in real life. Either born that way or serious head trauma in your Copper life.
Either way, you're fucking stupid.