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Roger Rosengarten, 2020 4* OL, Littleton (Valor Christian), CO (COMMITTED)

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  • NEsnake12NEsnake12 Posts: 3,245
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    animate said:

    Redman wasn't the only Husky that got one over on a future Duck. Left tackle Roger Rosengarten took defensive lineman Maceal Afaese down and pushed him to the ground as Afaese was trying to get around the corner during 1-1's.




    like the dude ... but he definitely needs way more junk in the trunk.

    But way better to add size/weight when you already have the compete, aggression and skill ... rather than the other way around.
    The majority of OL who develop into high NFL draft picks are skinnier, more athletic guys who redshirt and fill out in their early college seasons. McGary and Andre Dillard are great examples of that
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  • chuckchuck Posts: 4,375
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    animate said:

    Redman wasn't the only Husky that got one over on a future Duck. Left tackle Roger Rosengarten took defensive lineman Maceal Afaese down and pushed him to the ground as Afaese was trying to get around the corner during 1-1's.




    like the dude ... but he definitely needs way more junk in the trunk.

    But way better to add size/weight when you already have the compete, aggression and skill ... rather than the other way around.
    If he was soft I would be somewhat worried. He’s not. I love how aggressive he is. Just bulk him up and he’s going to be really fucking good.

    OL class was major this year. First time we have had 3 or 4 top level guys that won’t be out of place as a junior vs the blue bloods.

    Huff has to get them dialed in and knowing who to block. That’s half the battle and we seem so fucking bad against the blitz and routinely fuck this up.
    That has been the failure to date. The whole starting five plus a couple of key reserves win the overwhelming majority of their matchups. They just dont seem to match up with anyone at all on way too many snaps.
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  • DoogCouricsDoogCourics Posts: 5,107
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    animate said:

    Redman wasn't the only Husky that got one over on a future Duck. Left tackle Roger Rosengarten took defensive lineman Maceal Afaese down and pushed him to the ground as Afaese was trying to get around the corner during 1-1's.




    like the dude ... but he definitely needs way more junk in the trunk.

    But way better to add size/weight when you already have the compete, aggression and skill ... rather than the other way around.
    If he was soft I would be somewhat worried. He’s not. I love how aggressive he is. Just bulk him up and he’s going to be really fucking good.

    OL class was major this year. First time we have had 3 or 4 top level guys that won’t be out of place as a junior vs the blue bloods.

    Huff has to get them dialed in and knowing who to block. That’s half the battle and we seem so fucking bad against the blitz and routinely fuck this up.
    I believe it was Millen who all year tailed on the blocking concepts. He said they were all 20-30 years old and didn’t make sense with today’s football and schemes.

    He wasn’t sure if that’s Huff or if it was the weird fucked up offense that Pete ran. I’d think it was the latter since the offense also had 47 formation shifts and motions to confuse defenses. Wouldn’t surprise me if some weird blocking schemes were a part of that. Simplify the playbook and simplify the blocking scheme.
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  • EmotermanEmoterman Posts: 2,526
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    animate said:

    Redman wasn't the only Husky that got one over on a future Duck. Left tackle Roger Rosengarten took defensive lineman Maceal Afaese down and pushed him to the ground as Afaese was trying to get around the corner during 1-1's.




    like the dude ... but he definitely needs way more junk in the trunk.

    But way better to add size/weight when you already have the compete, aggression and skill ... rather than the other way around.
    If he was soft I would be somewhat worried. He’s not. I love how aggressive he is. Just bulk him up and he’s going to be really fucking good.

    OL class was major this year. First time we have had 3 or 4 top level guys that won’t be out of place as a junior vs the blue bloods.

    Huff has to get them dialed in and knowing who to block. That’s half the battle and we seem so fucking bad against the blitz and routinely fuck this up.
    I believe it was Millen who all year tailed on the blocking concepts. He said they were all 20-30 years old and didn’t make sense with today’s football and schemes.

    He wasn’t sure if that’s Huff or if it was the weird fucked up offense that Pete ran. I’d think it was the latter since the offense also had 47 formation shifts and motions to confuse defenses. Wouldn’t surprise me if some weird blocking schemes were a part of that. Simplify the playbook and simplify the blocking scheme.
    Pretty sure it's been reported they use a bizarre pass pro system wherein tackles block down and guards are responsible for the edge rushers.
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  • DoogCouricsDoogCourics Posts: 5,107
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    Emoterman said:

    animate said:

    Redman wasn't the only Husky that got one over on a future Duck. Left tackle Roger Rosengarten took defensive lineman Maceal Afaese down and pushed him to the ground as Afaese was trying to get around the corner during 1-1's.




    like the dude ... but he definitely needs way more junk in the trunk.

    But way better to add size/weight when you already have the compete, aggression and skill ... rather than the other way around.
    If he was soft I would be somewhat worried. He’s not. I love how aggressive he is. Just bulk him up and he’s going to be really fucking good.

    OL class was major this year. First time we have had 3 or 4 top level guys that won’t be out of place as a junior vs the blue bloods.

    Huff has to get them dialed in and knowing who to block. That’s half the battle and we seem so fucking bad against the blitz and routinely fuck this up.
    I believe it was Millen who all year tailed on the blocking concepts. He said they were all 20-30 years old and didn’t make sense with today’s football and schemes.

    He wasn’t sure if that’s Huff or if it was the weird fucked up offense that Pete ran. I’d think it was the latter since the offense also had 47 formation shifts and motions to confuse defenses. Wouldn’t surprise me if some weird blocking schemes were a part of that. Simplify the playbook and simplify the blocking scheme.
    Pretty sure it's been reported they use a bizarre pass pro system wherein tackles block down and guards are responsible for the edge rushers.
    Yup. That’s what Millen discussed.

    FWIW, during his interview with Softy when Lake was talking about the NFL style offense he was wanting to run, he mentioned running NFL blocking schemes. So it points to Pete’s retarded offense of trying to outsmart being the reason the blocking scheme sucked and not just because Huff taught it.
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  • BasemanBaseman Posts: 9,850
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    edited January 18

    animate said:

    Redman wasn't the only Husky that got one over on a future Duck. Left tackle Roger Rosengarten took defensive lineman Maceal Afaese down and pushed him to the ground as Afaese was trying to get around the corner during 1-1's.




    like the dude ... but he definitely needs way more junk in the trunk.

    But way better to add size/weight when you already have the compete, aggression and skill ... rather than the other way around.
    If he was soft I would be somewhat worried. He’s not. I love how aggressive he is. Just bulk him up and he’s going to be really fucking good.

    OL class was major this year. First time we have had 3 or 4 top level guys that won’t be out of place as a junior vs the blue bloods.

    Huff has to get them dialed in and knowing who to block. That’s half the battle and we seem so fucking bad against the blitz and routinely fuck this up.
    I believe it was Millen who all year tailed on the blocking concepts. He said they were all 20-30 years old and didn’t make sense with today’s football and schemes.

    He wasn’t sure if that’s Huff or if it was the weird fucked up offense that Pete ran. I’d think it was the latter since the offense also had 47 formation shifts and motions to confuse defenses. Wouldn’t surprise me if some weird blocking schemes were a part of that. Simplify the playbook and simplify the blocking scheme.
    An offensive line coach is there for technique based on the system and packages installed by the OC. Huff is not the problem. You can't block 6 with 5 especially if the opposing d sends a 7th --a delayed lb dog --with a 5-step drop from your QB.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Posts: 61,126
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    No more excuses for Huff. Produce or get the fuck out
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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Posts: 26,004
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    Baseman said:

    animate said:

    Redman wasn't the only Husky that got one over on a future Duck. Left tackle Roger Rosengarten took defensive lineman Maceal Afaese down and pushed him to the ground as Afaese was trying to get around the corner during 1-1's.




    like the dude ... but he definitely needs way more junk in the trunk.

    But way better to add size/weight when you already have the compete, aggression and skill ... rather than the other way around.
    If he was soft I would be somewhat worried. He’s not. I love how aggressive he is. Just bulk him up and he’s going to be really fucking good.

    OL class was major this year. First time we have had 3 or 4 top level guys that won’t be out of place as a junior vs the blue bloods.

    Huff has to get them dialed in and knowing who to block. That’s half the battle and we seem so fucking bad against the blitz and routinely fuck this up.
    I believe it was Millen who all year tailed on the blocking concepts. He said they were all 20-30 years old and didn’t make sense with today’s football and schemes.

    He wasn’t sure if that’s Huff or if it was the weird fucked up offense that Pete ran. I’d think it was the latter since the offense also had 47 formation shifts and motions to confuse defenses. Wouldn’t surprise me if some weird blocking schemes were a part of that. Simplify the playbook and simplify the blocking scheme.
    An offensive line coach is there for technique based on the system and packages installed by the OC. Huff is not the problem. You can't block 6 with 5 especially if the opposing d sends a 7th --a delayed lb dog --with a 5-step drop from your QB.
    Partially true. I don’t know if it was scheme, QB error, or OL fuck ups. Abundance really. I know defenses disguise things, but hot routes are how to beat the blitz. All I really know is that we have been awful against the blitz for years.

    I don’t know enough about our scheme to really know what was the main problem, but I do know we suck and rarely make the opponent pay for being extra guys.

    Eason was bad even when extra guys weren’t coming. He had no feel in the pocket and I remember times he either stepped into pressure or felt it when it wasn’t there. It’s mostly a natural feel some QB’s have and some don’t. After accuracy and decision making it’s the most important aspect of playing QB. The great ones all know how to slide around. Tom Brady runs like a 5.8 40, but he’s amazing at making little adjustments to give him time to throw.
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  • MeekMeek Posts: 7,031
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    didn't this kid sign in December? How is this happening now...

    more importantly how DF is that logo on our official paperwork?


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  • Neighbor2972Neighbor2972 Posts: 3,493
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    Yeah he signed in December, its probably just his school doing a ceremony with all the athletes
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  • dncdnc Posts: 47,433
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    Meek said:

    didn't this kid sign in December? How is this happening now...

    more importantly how DF is that logo on our official paperwork?


    Because it's not official paperwork?
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  • rustysavagerustysavage Posts: 809
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    dhdawg said:

    Rosengarten is 100% going to UW. Blue-collar, hard working, physical kid from Colorado. Not a flashy guy. UW aligns with his identity and he also want to major in Business. Give him and his parents the Built for Life presentation as well as information about the Foster school of Business and it'll be a wrap. There's a reason UW got the last visit and we've never lost a recruiting battle to Oregon when we get the last visit. Don't know or care what the crystal ballers have heard. He's obviously going to UW. Will be a huge commitment that could motivate Hatchett to join him soon after and that would easily be the best OT class out West.

    I kind of agree with you. I'm not sold we're gonna push super hard for him which is why he may go to Oregon but if we want him I think we can win this one.
    No hedging needed. We want him bad. He's one of the top-3 OT prospects out West. They'll push hard for him, therefore there's 0% chance he's going to Oregon.
    Are you being serious?? He has a 5% to end up in Seattle. You define "homerness"
    Lol
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  • dncdnc Posts: 47,433
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    edited June 3

    Is there a particular reason why Huff has already offered 40+ kids in this class? Should we be worried?

    I'm worried about you
    I'm just asking. Seemed like he's been throwing out a lot of early offers relative to other position coaches, when there's still time to close.

    I stand by that assessment, though I think Courics did a good job of putting it into context. That was the type of response I was looking for.
    If we take 4 OL then his position accounts for roughly 20% of the class and the 19.6% of outstanding offers being to OL is perfectly on par.

    If we take 3 OL then his position accounts for roughly 15% of this class and he's a bit ahead of schedule but hardly at an alarming rate.

    I'm hoping for a 4 man OL class, quite honestly.
    Turns out he signed 5 in a 22 person class for 23%. So he was actually well behind the pace for the slots he was given.

    Also he had arguably the strongest performance of any of our position coaches save perhaps Adams.
  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Posts: 11,051
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    dnc said:
    Hopefully freshman-sophomore Badass MFer Trey Adams and not junior Hurt Trey Adams or senior Broken, Lazy, and Don't Care Anymore Trey Adams
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  • dncdnc Posts: 47,433
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    dnc said:
    Hopefully freshman-sophomore Badass MFer Trey Adams and not junior Hurt Trey Adams or senior Broken, Lazy, and Don't Care Anymore Trey Adams
    "Young" to a college football player doesn't mean junior or senior.

    hth
  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Posts: 11,051
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    dnc said:

    dnc said:
    Hopefully freshman-sophomore Badass MFer Trey Adams and not junior Hurt Trey Adams or senior Broken, Lazy, and Don't Care Anymore Trey Adams
    "Young" to a college football player doesn't mean junior or senior.

    hth
    Ah but is the "young" qualifier in reference to Trey Adams' early playing years or to the fact that Roger is, himself younger than Trey?
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  • dncdnc Posts: 47,433
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    dnc said:

    dnc said:
    Hopefully freshman-sophomore Badass MFer Trey Adams and not junior Hurt Trey Adams or senior Broken, Lazy, and Don't Care Anymore Trey Adams
    "Young" to a college football player doesn't mean junior or senior.

    hth
    Ah but is the "young" qualifier in reference to Trey Adams' early playing years or to the fact that Roger is, himself younger than Trey?
    it's obvious what he's saying
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