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Trump's taxes on imports are now larger than taxes from the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare)

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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    I’m glad we’ve confirmed that Trump is Sark. Self promoting loser that inflates results to satisfy his stupid fans.

    Don't forget better than Ty and the losers that gave him 8 years
    You were a Sark believer too. We all heard the Holiday bowl pod. Thanks for the FREE PUB btw.

    You seem to have a habit of being easily fooled by used car salesmen types.

    How long until you figure out the ruse this time?

    I’m glad we’ve confirmed that Trump is Sark. Self promoting loser that inflates results to satisfy his stupid fans.

    Don't forget better than Ty and the losers that gave him 8 years
    You were a Sark believer too. We all heard the Holiday bowl pod. Thanks for the FREE PUB btw.

    You seem to have a habit of being easily fooled by used car salesmen types.

    How long until you figure out the ruse this time?
    Everyone remembers and no one forgets I bashed sark the day he was hired and coined FREE PUB! No one forgets that. I was banned from doog man in December 2009 after a season of sark bashing. Kim said we needed sizzle.
    How did you survive until 2009?
    Hard to be banned for criticizing Owen.
    I think I got the axe after the Air Force game.
    That’s a solid effort. I had many time outs. Kim coined the 23 times saying because of me.
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    SarkFanSixtyNineSarkFanSixtyNine Member Posts: 362
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    arent you guys supposed to like higher taxes
    if we must increase govt revenue a tax that incentivizes national industry seems pretty ideal to me
    now that i think about it thats probably why china uses tariffs excessively as liberals fascinatingly transform into reaganomic libertarians to justify bashing orange man

    Tariffs do not increase government revenue. They kill trade, markets, industry and gdp.
    maybe you should go suck ronald reagan's dick
    china's economic success while using exorbitant tariffs and foreign barriers makes me question your beliefs

    What’s it like sucking Xi’s dick? Is he making great leaps forward?
    How am I sucking Xi's dick? China is a menace to all of humanity and must be destroyed by finally responding to their trade war in kind. I don't care how many Pac12 viewers are lost.
    A strong US would lead on trade and finance.
    What would successfully doing this ultimately result in?
    Tariffs on chinese exports?

    I see this is hard for you, but how about:
    Widespread wealth and prosperity (for those with the skills and education to compete), American economic dominance in the trade of high value good and services, US monopoly on innovation, enhanced national security, overwhelming international influence in economic and military affairs. Basically everything trump wants to give away because his base doesn’t understand and can’t compete.
    Why would the US remain dominant in any of those long-term? Because you were nice to people at one point?


    China model:
    enslave the dumb and mediocre citizens
    buy up raw material sources across the globe
    completely ignore all environmental concerns
    completely ignore all human concerns
    steal any advanced tech by implanting spies that take advantage of open western societies
    subvert foreign governments by implanting spies that take advantage of open western societies
    subvert foreign institutions by implanting spies that take advantage of open western societies
    subvert foreign governments by blackmailing or buying politicians who will act to benefit China
    use all resources gained in this manner to further your imperialistic ambitions


    The proposed liberal US model:
    impose ridiculous regulations on anyone hoping to do anything material
    let anyone in the world into the country with no standards at all and also give them free stuff
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    CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    T

    arent you guys supposed to like higher taxes
    if we must increase govt revenue a tax that incentivizes national industry seems pretty ideal to me
    now that i think about it thats probably why china uses tariffs excessively as liberals fascinatingly transform into reaganomic libertarians to justify bashing orange man

    Tariffs do not increase government revenue. They kill trade, markets, industry and gdp.
    maybe you should go suck ronald reagan's dick
    china's economic success while using exorbitant tariffs and foreign barriers makes me question your beliefs

    What’s it like sucking Xi’s dick? Is he making great leaps forward?
    How am I sucking Xi's dick? China is a menace to all of humanity and must be destroyed by finally responding to their trade war in kind. I don't care how many Pac12 viewers are lost.
    A strong US would lead on trade and finance.
    What would successfully doing this ultimately result in?
    Tariffs on chinese exports?

    I see this is hard for you, but how about:
    Widespread wealth and prosperity (for those with the skills and education to compete), American economic dominance in the trade of high value good and services, US monopoly on innovation, enhanced national security, overwhelming international influence in economic and military affairs. Basically everything trump wants to give away because his base doesn’t understand and can’t compete.
    Why would the US remain dominant in any of those long-term? Because you were nice to people at one point?


    China model:
    enslave the dumb and mediocre citizens
    buy up raw material sources across the globe
    completely ignore all environmental concerns
    completely ignore all human concerns
    steal any advanced tech by implanting spies that take advantage of open western societies
    subvert foreign governments by implanting spies that take advantage of open western societies
    subvert foreign institutions by implanting spies that take advantage of open western societies
    subvert foreign governments by blackmailing or buying politicians who will act to benefit China
    use all resources gained in this manner to further your imperialistic ambitions


    The proposed liberal US model:
    impose ridiculous regulations on anyone hoping to do anything material
    let anyone in the world into the country with no standards at all and also give them free stuff
    Oh. I see.
    MAGA is top speed for you.
    Good luck!
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    SarkFanSixtyNineSarkFanSixtyNine Member Posts: 362
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    Why should I believe that the US could magically remain dominant in the incredibly high value spheres you listed? The US has already experienced a radical shrinking of global influence since the 70s. I laughed at England as they dwindled from rulers of practically the whole goddamn world to a shitty irrelevant muslim island. I genuinely WISH I could believe what you say, but it just doesn't make any sense.


    Look at how ruthless and pragmatic China is when it comes to its own people. Obviously, they'll treat foreigners even worse if they ever become capable. Letting them do whatever the fuck they want because it means I get slightly cheaper low quality garbage for another decade is FS. I pray to G*d that this menace can be stopped.
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    CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    Why should I believe that the US could magically remain dominant in the incredibly high value spheres you listed? The US has already experienced a radical shrinking of global influence since the 70s. I laughed at England as they dwindled from rulers of practically the whole goddamn world to a shitty irrelevant muslim island. I genuinely WISH I could believe what you say, but it just doesn't make any sense.


    Look at how ruthless and pragmatic China is when it comes to its own people. Obviously, they'll treat foreigners even worse if they ever become capable. Letting them do whatever the fuck they want because it means I get slightly cheaper low quality garbage for another decade is FS. I pray to G*d that this menace can be stopped.

    If you are smarter, richer and more innovative, you impose your will. That’s supposed to be the US role. China is a mere nuisance in the path towards the path of continued and constant US economic dominance (and a nice deflection for trump from Russia).

    China can’t compete against the US. Their only hope is American panic. Trump is stoking that outcome, and that fear.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,283
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    T

    arent you guys supposed to like higher taxes
    if we must increase govt revenue a tax that incentivizes national industry seems pretty ideal to me
    now that i think about it thats probably why china uses tariffs excessively as liberals fascinatingly transform into reaganomic libertarians to justify bashing orange man

    Tariffs do not increase government revenue. They kill trade, markets, industry and gdp.
    maybe you should go suck ronald reagan's dick
    china's economic success while using exorbitant tariffs and foreign barriers makes me question your beliefs

    What’s it like sucking Xi’s dick? Is he making great leaps forward?
    How am I sucking Xi's dick? China is a menace to all of humanity and must be destroyed by finally responding to their trade war in kind. I don't care how many Pac12 viewers are lost.
    You seem to be enamored by china’s government controlled mercantilist economic system. They’ve accumulated massive amounts of foreign currency and US debt through a corrupt economic model that keeps its people poor and takes advantage of US economic weakness (reliance on debt to fund our current consumption). Trump’s populist and protectionist economic policies feed the beast and makes the situation worse. A strong US would lead on trade and finance. Instead, we have a raving lunatic spouting nationalistic nonsense to an audience of dunces.

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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    Why should I believe that the US could magically remain dominant in the incredibly high value spheres you listed? The US has already experienced a radical shrinking of global influence since the 70s. I laughed at England as they dwindled from rulers of practically the whole goddamn world to a shitty irrelevant muslim island. I genuinely WISH I could believe what you say, but it just doesn't make any sense.


    Look at how ruthless and pragmatic China is when it comes to its own people. Obviously, they'll treat foreigners even worse if they ever become capable. Letting them do whatever the fuck they want because it means I get slightly cheaper low quality garbage for another decade is FS. I pray to G*d that this menace can be stopped.

    China ruling the world would suck for us.

    Fortunately I’m certain that will never happen.

    Look man, they suck, but we are tolerant of their BS for the sake of world peace.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,765
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    arent you guys supposed to like higher taxes
    if we must increase govt revenue a tax that incentivizes national industry seems pretty ideal to me
    now that i think about it thats probably why china uses tariffs excessively as liberals fascinatingly transform into reaganomic libertarians to justify bashing orange man

    Tariffs do not increase government revenue. They kill trade, markets, industry and gdp.
    But they protect and aid domestic labor and production. Ask China.

    Oh no! What will we do with less cheap Walmart shit?
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,765
    First Anniversary 5 Up Votes 5 Awesomes First Comment

    arent you guys supposed to like higher taxes
    if we must increase govt revenue a tax that incentivizes national industry seems pretty ideal to me
    now that i think about it thats probably why china uses tariffs excessively as liberals fascinatingly transform into reaganomic libertarians to justify bashing orange man

    Tariffs do not increase government revenue. They kill trade, markets, industry and gdp.
    maybe you should go suck ronald reagan's dick
    china's economic success while using exorbitant tariffs and foreign barriers makes me question your beliefs

    What’s it like sucking Xi’s dick? Is he making great leaps forward?
    Don't get Cirrho worked up, or he'll start un-closeting his dick sucking obsessions like he did here.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,765
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    T

    arent you guys supposed to like higher taxes
    if we must increase govt revenue a tax that incentivizes national industry seems pretty ideal to me
    now that i think about it thats probably why china uses tariffs excessively as liberals fascinatingly transform into reaganomic libertarians to justify bashing orange man

    Tariffs do not increase government revenue. They kill trade, markets, industry and gdp.
    maybe you should go suck ronald reagan's dick
    china's economic success while using exorbitant tariffs and foreign barriers makes me question your beliefs

    What’s it like sucking Xi’s dick? Is he making great leaps forward?
    How am I sucking Xi's dick? China is a menace to all of humanity and must be destroyed by finally responding to their trade war in kind. I don't care how many Pac12 viewers are lost.
    A strong US would lead on trade and finance.
    What would successfully doing this ultimately result in?
    Tariffs on chinese exports?

    I see this is hard for you, but how about:
    Widespread wealth and prosperity (for those with the skills and education to compete), American economic dominance in the trade of high value good and services, US monopoly on innovation, enhanced national security, overwhelming international influence in economic and military affairs. Basically everything trump wants to give away because his base doesn’t understand and can’t compete.
    Why do globalism-promoting fags like yourself hate sovereignty, self-determination, democracy and freedom so much?
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,765
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    edited October 2018

    Why should I believe that the US could magically remain dominant in the incredibly high value spheres you listed? The US has already experienced a radical shrinking of global influence since the 70s. I laughed at England as they dwindled from rulers of practically the whole goddamn world to a shitty irrelevant muslim island. I genuinely WISH I could believe what you say, but it just doesn't make any sense.

    Look at how ruthless and pragmatic China is when it comes to its own people. Obviously, they'll treat foreigners even worse if they ever become capable. Letting them do whatever the fuck they want because it means I get slightly cheaper low quality garbage for another decade is FS. I pray to G*d that this menace can be stopped.

    If you are smarter, richer and more innovative, you impose your will. That’s supposed to be the US role. China is a mere nuisance in the path towards the path of continued and constant US economic dominance (and a nice deflection for trump from Russia).

    China can’t compete against the US. Their only hope is American panic. Trump is stoking that outcome, and that fear.
    You're a fucking idiot trying to sloganeer your way to seeming bright, but your bulb is dim as fuck. The US under Bush and Obama ran up massive deficits and the same massive national debt you constantly whine about engaging in the exact practices you advocate for. So the only real question is this: How fucking stupid do you have to be to continue on that path? Answer: Cirrho-level Stoopid.
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    CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    Why should I believe that the US could magically remain dominant in the incredibly high value spheres you listed? The US has already experienced a radical shrinking of global influence since the 70s. I laughed at England as they dwindled from rulers of practically the whole goddamn world to a shitty irrelevant muslim island. I genuinely WISH I could believe what you say, but it just doesn't make any sense.

    Look at how ruthless and pragmatic China is when it comes to its own people. Obviously, they'll treat foreigners even worse if they ever become capable. Letting them do whatever the fuck they want because it means I get slightly cheaper low quality garbage for another decade is FS. I pray to G*d that this menace can be stopped.

    If you are smarter, richer and more innovative, you impose your will. That’s supposed to be the US role. China is a mere nuisance in the path towards the path of continued and constant US economic dominance (and a nice deflection for trump from Russia).

    China can’t compete against the US. Their only hope is American panic. Trump is stoking that outcome, and that fear.
    You're a fucking idiot trying to sloganeer your way to seeming bright, but your bulb is dim as fuck. The US under Bush and Obama ran up massive deficits and the same massive national debt you constantly whine about engaging in the exact practices you advocate for. So the only real question is this: How fucking stupid do you have to be to continue on that path? Answer: Cirrho-level Stoopid.
    Smaller markets. Higher prices. Inflation. Less wealth.

    It makes sense that retards think this is “winning.”

    TurdbufferFS.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Sledog said:

    T

    arent you guys supposed to like higher taxes
    if we must increase govt revenue a tax that incentivizes national industry seems pretty ideal to me
    now that i think about it thats probably why china uses tariffs excessively as liberals fascinatingly transform into reaganomic libertarians to justify bashing orange man

    Tariffs do not increase government revenue. They kill trade, markets, industry and gdp.
    maybe you should go suck ronald reagan's dick
    china's economic success while using exorbitant tariffs and foreign barriers makes me question your beliefs

    What’s it like sucking Xi’s dick? Is he making great leaps forward?
    How am I sucking Xi's dick? China is a menace to all of humanity and must be destroyed by finally responding to their trade war in kind. I don't care how many Pac12 viewers are lost.
    You seem to be enamored by china’s government controlled mercantilist economic system. They’ve accumulated massive amounts of foreign currency and US debt through a corrupt economic model that keeps its people poor and takes advantage of US economic weakness (reliance on debt to fund our current consumption). Trump’s populist and protectionist economic policies feed the beast and makes the situation worse. A strong US would lead on trade and finance. Instead, we have a raving lunatic spouting nationalistic nonsense to an audience of dunces.

    And you won't why some people call conservatives racist. Thinking about it. I've never seen you actually argue against that point.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Why should I believe that the US could magically remain dominant in the incredibly high value spheres you listed? The US has already experienced a radical shrinking of global influence since the 70s. I laughed at England as they dwindled from rulers of practically the whole goddamn world to a shitty irrelevant muslim island. I genuinely WISH I could believe what you say, but it just doesn't make any sense.


    Look at how ruthless and pragmatic China is when it comes to its own people. Obviously, they'll treat foreigners even worse if they ever become capable. Letting them do whatever the fuck they want because it means I get slightly cheaper low quality garbage for another decade is FS. I pray to G*d that this menace can be stopped.

    El oh El. Like a few Muslims have anything so to with the reason England isn't a world power.

    Besides, I know a few women over there now for the Hawks game and none have been raped yet.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Trump could be the greatest president in history if 1)He’d shut the fuck up and 2) realize a trade deficit isn’t a problem that needs to be “solved”.

    That, and tell the congress to fuck off on their spending.

    We actual agree on this @MikeDamone . Trump also needs to stop his spending too but otherwise great post.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,638
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    2001400ex said:

    Why should I believe that the US could magically remain dominant in the incredibly high value spheres you listed? The US has already experienced a radical shrinking of global influence since the 70s. I laughed at England as they dwindled from rulers of practically the whole goddamn world to a shitty irrelevant muslim island. I genuinely WISH I could believe what you say, but it just doesn't make any sense.


    Look at how ruthless and pragmatic China is when it comes to its own people. Obviously, they'll treat foreigners even worse if they ever become capable. Letting them do whatever the fuck they want because it means I get slightly cheaper low quality garbage for another decade is FS. I pray to G*d that this menace can be stopped.

    Besides, I know a few women over there now for the Hawks game and none have been raped yet.
    Now I know youre fucking lying. Porking lots are porking lots, bitch.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    Why should I believe that the US could magically remain dominant in the incredibly high value spheres you listed? The US has already experienced a radical shrinking of global influence since the 70s. I laughed at England as they dwindled from rulers of practically the whole goddamn world to a shitty irrelevant muslim island. I genuinely WISH I could believe what you say, but it just doesn't make any sense.


    Look at how ruthless and pragmatic China is when it comes to its own people. Obviously, they'll treat foreigners even worse if they ever become capable. Letting them do whatever the fuck they want because it means I get slightly cheaper low quality garbage for another decade is FS. I pray to G*d that this menace can be stopped.

    Besides, I know a few women over there now for the Hawks game and none have been raped yet.
    Now I know youre fucking lying. Porking lots are porking lots, bitch.
    The game is tomorrow. Notice my use of the word "yet".
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,765
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    Why should I believe that the US could magically remain dominant in the incredibly high value spheres you listed? The US has already experienced a radical shrinking of global influence since the 70s. I laughed at England as they dwindled from rulers of practically the whole goddamn world to a shitty irrelevant muslim island. I genuinely WISH I could believe what you say, but it just doesn't make any sense.

    Look at how ruthless and pragmatic China is when it comes to its own people. Obviously, they'll treat foreigners even worse if they ever become capable. Letting them do whatever the fuck they want because it means I get slightly cheaper low quality garbage for another decade is FS. I pray to G*d that this menace can be stopped.

    If you are smarter, richer and more innovative, you impose your will. That’s supposed to be the US role. China is a mere nuisance in the path towards the path of continued and constant US economic dominance (and a nice deflection for trump from Russia).

    China can’t compete against the US. Their only hope is American panic. Trump is stoking that outcome, and that fear.
    You're a fucking idiot trying to sloganeer your way to seeming bright, but your bulb is dim as fuck. The US under Bush and Obama ran up massive deficits and the same massive national debt you constantly whine about engaging in the exact practices you advocate for. So the only real question is this: How fucking stupid do you have to be to continue on that path? Answer: Cirrho-level Stoopid.
    Smaller markets. Higher prices. Inflation. Less wealth.

    It makes sense that retards think this is “winning.”

    TurdbufferFS.

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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,765
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    Why should I believe that the US could magically remain dominant in the incredibly high value spheres you listed? The US has already experienced a radical shrinking of global influence since the 70s. I laughed at England as they dwindled from rulers of practically the whole goddamn world to a shitty irrelevant muslim island. I genuinely WISH I could believe what you say, but it just doesn't make any sense.

    Look at how ruthless and pragmatic China is when it comes to its own people. Obviously, they'll treat foreigners even worse if they ever become capable. Letting them do whatever the fuck they want because it means I get slightly cheaper low quality garbage for another decade is FS. I pray to G*d that this menace can be stopped.

    If you are smarter, richer and more innovative, you impose your will. That’s supposed to be the US role. China is a mere nuisance in the path towards the path of continued and constant US economic dominance (and a nice deflection for trump from Russia).

    China can’t compete against the US. Their only hope is American panic. Trump is stoking that outcome, and that fear.
    You're a fucking idiot trying to sloganeer your way to seeming bright, but your bulb is dim as fuck. The US under Bush and Obama ran up massive deficits and the same massive national debt you constantly whine about engaging in the exact practices you advocate for. So the only real question is this: How fucking stupid do you have to be to continue on that path? Answer: Cirrho-level Stoopid.
    Smaller markets. Higher prices. Inflation. Less wealth.

    It makes sense that retards think this is “winning.”

    TurdbufferFS.
    Your 2.5 decades of epic failures and massive trade deficits speak for themselves.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,283
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    T

    arent you guys supposed to like higher taxes
    if we must increase govt revenue a tax that incentivizes national industry seems pretty ideal to me
    now that i think about it thats probably why china uses tariffs excessively as liberals fascinatingly transform into reaganomic libertarians to justify bashing orange man

    Tariffs do not increase government revenue. They kill trade, markets, industry and gdp.
    maybe you should go suck ronald reagan's dick
    china's economic success while using exorbitant tariffs and foreign barriers makes me question your beliefs

    What’s it like sucking Xi’s dick? Is he making great leaps forward?
    How am I sucking Xi's dick? China is a menace to all of humanity and must be destroyed by finally responding to their trade war in kind. I don't care how many Pac12 viewers are lost.
    You seem to be enamored by china’s government controlled mercantilist economic system. They’ve accumulated massive amounts of foreign currency and US debt through a corrupt economic model that keeps its people poor and takes advantage of US economic weakness (reliance on debt to fund our current consumption). Trump’s populist and protectionist economic policies feed the beast and makes the situation worse. A strong US would lead on trade and finance. Instead, we have a raving lunatic spouting nationalistic nonsense to an audience of dunces.

    And you won't why some people call conservatives racist. Thinking about it. I've never seen you actually argue against that point.
    Buckwheats racist? Bullshit.
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