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This week's higher lever history: Stalin vs Hitler

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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,888 Founders Club
    edited August 2018
    HardlyClothed said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Lenin murdered his opponents and installed an economic system responsible for starving millions to death.

    Replacing the Tsarist system with communism and beating back the western funded white armies was good.

    Stalin did Holodomor FYI.
    Lenin better than Stalin POTD.

    But you're correct re: Ukrainian genocide.

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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778
    HardlyClothed said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Lenin murdered his opponents and installed an economic system responsible for starving millions to death.

    Replacing the Tsarist system with communism and beating back the western funded white armies was good.

    Stalin did Holodomor FYI.
    Yawn. You sound poor.
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  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    YellowSnow said:

    HardlyClothed said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Lenin murdered his opponents and installed an economic system responsible for starving millions to death.

    Replacing the Tsarist system with communism and beating back the western funded white armies was good.

    Stalin did Holodomor FYI.
    Lenin better than Stalin POTD.

    But you're correct re: Ukrainian genocide.

    Retribution for the pogroms. Both sides bad etc.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,676 Founders Club
    YellowSnow said:

    HardlyClothed said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Lenin murdered his opponents and installed an economic system responsible for starving millions to death.

    Replacing the Tsarist system with communism and beating back the western funded white armies was good.

    Stalin did Holodomor FYI.
    Lenin better than Stalin POTD.

    But you're correct re: Ukrainian genocide.

    He's doing a great job of proving my point.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,123 Founders Club
    Socialism or communism require force and dead people and even after that Das Capital flees the country and you can't get a roll of fucking toilet paper

    You don't hear folks saying stupid shit like Real Nazism has never been tried and if we just do it without killing the Jews it would be great
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,888 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    Socialism or communism require force and dead people and even after that Das Capital flees the country and you can't get a roll of fucking toilet paper

    You don't hear folks saying stupid shit like Real Nazism has never been tried and if we just do it without killing the Jews it would be great

    It cannot and will not work every. That level of power in the hands of the state will always become corrupt.
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    In late, but who cares
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyCh0sOlrE
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,888 Founders Club
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    In late, but who cares
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyCh0sOlrE

    You can never be too late. I will have a listen to this today.
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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    YellowSnow said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Socialism and communism should be just as reviled as Nazis.

    And yet

    Mind boggling how much the fellow traveling left in the US was in denial about Stalin in the 1930s. Hitler in the 1930s was not much a villain at all compared to Uncle Joe.
    Not so mind boggling when you consider even now the left is in denial.
    True, but Bernie (as much of a cook as I view him to be) ain't exactly Stalin or Mao as much of a false equivalence that OBK might draw.
    But most of his supporters are classic useful idiots. I had a long discussion with one on Saturday night. Most naive, child-like hypocrite I've ever talked to.

    Shockingly ironic statements throughout. Fuck both Communism and Socialism.
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