Ah, so establishment polticians doing closed conference calls and private fundraising dinners with their donors is fine but keeping press out of a town hall with constituents is suddenly a threat to the 1st amendment.
It was a public event.
Ok then fundraisers and conference calls with wealthy donors should be public or provide transcripts to reporters.
Or it’s fine if she wants to hold a private event with constituents who don’t even have to pony up for her access.
It was billed as a townhall event, not a private event. The reasons she gave for excluding the press were complete horseshit.
There was an illegal immigrant from our state that was targeted by ICE and deported just because he spoke to the press if I recall
Ah, so establishment polticians doing closed conference calls and private fundraising dinners with their donors is fine but keeping press out of a town hall with constituents is suddenly a threat to the 1st amendment.
It was a public event.
Ok then fundraisers and conference calls with wealthy donors should be public or provide transcripts to reporters.
Or it’s fine if she wants to hold a private event with constituents who don’t even have to pony up for her access.
It was billed as a townhall event, not a private event. The reasons she gave for excluding the press were complete horseshit.
There was an illegal immigrant from our state that was targeted by ICE and deported just because he spoke to the press if I recall
Illegal immigrants aren't constituents
Ah so people who live and work in her district, many of them for decades, and who are directly impacted by her proposed policies are not her constituents and should not be allowed access to her.
Maybe we should only allow uber wealthy immigrants to provide input into our politics. Rupert Murdoch perhaps. He’s been such a positive influence on our political system in his time here.
I didn't say they shouldn't have access to her.
You're the one who brought up how she should be able to meet with her constituents in this thread. Multiple times. I agree.
Then you brought up how the presence of the press can be a threat to illegal immigrants. Which may well be true.
But by definition illegal immigrants are not her constituents, unless you're arguing that they vote anyway, which would be a very off brand argument for you.
She didn't say anything about illegal immigrants.... Just immigrants.
Ah, so establishment polticians doing closed conference calls and private fundraising dinners with their donors is fine but keeping press out of a town hall with constituents is suddenly a threat to the 1st amendment.
It was a public event.
Ok then fundraisers and conference calls with wealthy donors should be public or provide transcripts to reporters.
Or it’s fine if she wants to hold a private event with constituents who don’t even have to pony up for her access.
It was billed as a townhall event, not a private event. The reasons she gave for excluding the press were complete horseshit.
There was an illegal immigrant from our state that was targeted by ICE and deported just because he spoke to the press if I recall
Illegal immigrants aren't constituents
Ah so people who live and work in her district, many of them for decades, and who are directly impacted by her proposed policies are not her constituents and should not be allowed access to her.
Maybe we should only allow uber wealthy immigrants to provide input into our politics. Rupert Murdoch perhaps. He’s been such a positive influence on our political system in his time here.
I didn't say they shouldn't have access to her.
You're the one who brought up how she should be able to meet with her constituents in this thread. Multiple times. I agree.
Then you brought up how the presence of the press can be a threat to illegal immigrants. Which may well be true.
But by definition illegal immigrants are not her constituents, unless you're arguing that they vote anyway, which would be a very off brand argument for you.
She didn't say anything about illegal immigrants.... Just immigrants.
Believe it or not, and I'll type slowly since I know this might come as a shock, I'm not talking to her.
Ah, so establishment polticians doing closed conference calls and private fundraising dinners with their donors is fine but keeping press out of a town hall with constituents is suddenly a threat to the 1st amendment.
It was a public event.
Ok then fundraisers and conference calls with wealthy donors should be public or provide transcripts to reporters.
Or it’s fine if she wants to hold a private event with constituents who don’t even have to pony up for her access.
It was billed as a townhall event, not a private event. The reasons she gave for excluding the press were complete horseshit.
There was an illegal immigrant from our state that was targeted by ICE and deported just because he spoke to the press if I recall
Illegal immigrants aren't constituents
Ah so people who live and work in her district, many of them for decades, and who are directly impacted by her proposed policies are not her constituents and should not be allowed access to her.
Maybe we should only allow uber wealthy immigrants to provide input into our politics. Rupert Murdoch perhaps. He’s been such a positive influence on our political system in his time here.
I didn't say they shouldn't have access to her.
You're the one who brought up how she should be able to meet with her constituents in this thread. Multiple times. I agree.
Then you brought up how the presence of the press can be a threat to illegal immigrants. Which may well be true.
But by definition illegal immigrants are not her constituents, unless you're arguing that they vote anyway, which would be a very off brand argument for you.
Ah, so establishment polticians doing closed conference calls and private fundraising dinners with their donors is fine but keeping press out of a town hall with constituents is suddenly a threat to the 1st amendment.
It was a public event.
Ok then fundraisers and conference calls with wealthy donors should be public or provide transcripts to reporters.
Or it’s fine if she wants to hold a private event with constituents who don’t even have to pony up for her access.
It was billed as a townhall event, not a private event. The reasons she gave for excluding the press were complete horseshit.
There was an illegal immigrant from our state that was targeted by ICE and deported just because he spoke to the press if I recall
Illegal immigrants aren't constituents
Ah so people who live and work in her district, many of them for decades, and who are directly impacted by her proposed policies are not her constituents and should not be allowed access to her.
Maybe we should only allow uber wealthy immigrants to provide input into our politics. Rupert Murdoch perhaps. He’s been such a positive influence on our political system in his time here.
I didn't say they shouldn't have access to her.
You're the one who brought up how she should be able to meet with her constituents in this thread. Multiple times. I agree.
Then you brought up how the presence of the press can be a threat to illegal immigrants. Which may well be true.
But by definition illegal immigrants are not her constituents, unless you're arguing that they vote anyway, which would be a very off brand argument for you.
I believe her constituents are everyone who lives in her district whether they vote or not, and everyone whether they’re legal immigrants or not. They are impacted by politics regardless and should be able to talk to the politicians that make policy decisions.
And if the politican wants to provide a setting that makes those people feel more comfortable voicing their concerns then that is also fine.
I didn't vote for Trump. I'm anti wall and anti separating families. I'm pretty fucking middle on immigration. Buttfuck man you don't get to just blatantly change the meaning of constituent.
Ah, so establishment polticians doing closed conference calls and private fundraising dinners with their donors is fine but keeping press out of a town hall with constituents is suddenly a threat to the 1st amendment.
Yeah I’m not a fan of this even if there seems to be a reasonable argument. @dnc can criticize it but I don’t want to hear shit from Trump voters.
@dnc adheres to the same sunny brand of compassionate reform conservatism as me. There are many conservative leaning non Trump voters amongst our ranks.
Ah, so establishment polticians doing closed conference calls and private fundraising dinners with their donors is fine but keeping press out of a town hall with constituents is suddenly a threat to the 1st amendment.
It was a public event.
Ok then fundraisers and conference calls with wealthy donors should be public or provide transcripts to reporters.
Or it’s fine if she wants to hold a private event with constituents who don’t even have to pony up for her access.
It was billed as a townhall event, not a private event. The reasons she gave for excluding the press were complete horseshit.
There was an illegal immigrant from our state that was targeted by ICE and deported just because he spoke to the press if I recall
Illegal immigrants aren't constituents
Ah so people who live and work in her district, many of them for decades, and who are directly impacted by her proposed policies are not her constituents and should not be allowed access to her.
Maybe we should only allow uber wealthy immigrants to provide input into our politics. Rupert Murdoch perhaps. He’s been such a positive influence on our political system in his time here.
I didn't say they shouldn't have access to her.
You're the one who brought up how she should be able to meet with her constituents in this thread. Multiple times. I agree.
Then you brought up how the presence of the press can be a threat to illegal immigrants. Which may well be true.
But by definition illegal immigrants are not her constituents, unless you're arguing that they vote anyway, which would be a very off brand argument for you.
I prefer access to her vagina
Access to her vagina is a basic human right. All for one and one for all comrade!
Yeah I’m not a fan of this even if there seems to be a reasonable argument. @dnc can criticize it but I don’t want to hear shit from Trump voters.
@dnc adheres to the same sunny brand of compassionate reform conservatism as me. There are many conservative leaning non Trump voters amongst our ranks.
You me and Grundle are all that I'm aware of. Sort of Boobs.
Ah, so establishment polticians doing closed conference calls and private fundraising dinners with their donors is fine but keeping press out of a town hall with constituents is suddenly a threat to the 1st amendment.
It was a public event.
Ok then fundraisers and conference calls with wealthy donors should be public or provide transcripts to reporters.
Or it’s fine if she wants to hold a private event with constituents who don’t even have to pony up for her access.
It was billed as a townhall event, not a private event. The reasons she gave for excluding the press were complete horseshit.
There was an illegal immigrant from our state that was targeted by ICE and deported just because he spoke to the press if I recall
If it was about Trump you’d find a way to blame Obama or Hillary.
Yes. Trump is literally Obama and Hillary's fault. How are you not understanding this?
He doesn't stand on his own merit at all. It's a direct reflection of Obama and Hillary's failure.
Every single thing he does that you don't like is Hillary and Obama's fault. (and the dem party as a whole but those are the only two that actually matter)
If it was about Trump you’d find a way to blame Obama or Hillary.
Yes. Trump is literally Obama and Hillary's fault. How are you not understanding this?
He doesn't stand on his own merit at all. It's a direct reflection of Obama and Hillary's failure.
Every single thing he does that you don't like is Hillary and Obama's fault. (and the dem party as a whole but those are the only two that actually matter)
Yeah I’m not a fan of this even if there seems to be a reasonable argument. @dnc can criticize it but I don’t want to hear shit from Trump voters.
@dnc adheres to the same sunny brand of compassionate reform conservatism as me. There are many conservative leaning non Trump voters amongst our ranks.
You me and Grundle are all that I'm aware of. Sort of Boobs.
@UW_Doog_Bot is 2 silver dollar, compassionate libertarian, non Trump supporter.
@creepycoug and @CirrhosisDawg are open borders / free flow of labor to capital, fuck dumb natives, conservatives.
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This isn't about Trump or trump voters
It's about rank hypocrisy
HTH
He doesn't stand on his own merit at all. It's a direct reflection of Obama and Hillary's failure.
Every single thing he does that you don't like is Hillary and Obama's fault. (and the dem party as a whole but those are the only two that actually matter)
@creepycoug and @CirrhosisDawg are open borders / free flow of labor to capital, fuck dumb natives, conservatives.