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TSIO - Don't Go to Atlanta

DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,460
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https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/History-says-only-these-14-teams-can-make-the-2018-College-Football-Playoff-120651737/

Spoiler: We didn't make the cut.

No. 6 Washington: The Huskies are a very good team. Chris Petersen is among the best coaches in the country, and they’ve got plenty of NFL talent (from the backfield to the offensive line to the secondary). But … the Huskies don’t have a five-star on their active roster (and no, five-star Jacob Eason does not count this season as he's not eligible to play) nor have they reeled in a top 10 class the last four cycles — anther critical indicator historically for championship game participants and playoff teams. It should be stated that Washington did buck that trend in 2016, so it's hard to rule the Huskies completely out. No team since the start of 247Sports' recruiting database has won a title without at least one of those two things, however. Washington could be the first, but it will be tough slogging against the truly elite teams in the country in terms of talent and coaching (see Alabama vs. Washington in the 2016 Peach Bowl).

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  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
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    Auburn is no Alabama
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,460
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    Who was our composite 5 star in 2016?
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,796
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    Doogles said:

    Who was our composite 5 star in 2016?

    Didn't have one.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,460
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    Doogles said:

    Who was our composite 5 star in 2016?

    Didn't have one.
    So the article is wrong because we've done it before. I thought maybe Buttah could have been, but then they wouldn't have been calling Kaho Petersens highest recruit.

    Whelp, Wheels up, heading to Atlanta boys!
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,716
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    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Who was our composite 5 star in 2016?

    Didn't have one.
    So the article is wrong because we've done it before. I thought maybe Buttah could have been, but then they wouldn't have been calling Kaho Petersens highest recruit.

    Whelp, Wheels up, heading to Atlanta boys!
    It should be stated that Washington did buck that trend in 2016, so it's hard to rule the Huskies completely out. No team since the start of 247Sports' recruiting database has won a title without at least one of those two things, however. Washington could be the first
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,796
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    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Who was our composite 5 star in 2016?

    Didn't have one.
    So the article is wrong because we've done it before. I thought maybe Buttah could have been, but then they wouldn't have been calling Kaho Petersens highest recruit.

    Whelp, Wheels up, heading to Atlanta boys!
    Shaq was our last one I think? Buttah was a lowely 4 star. But again, why should having, at least, 1 be predictive of anything? We sucked so bad when Shaq was here, we had to use him at running back.
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
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    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Who was our composite 5 star in 2016?

    Didn't have one.
    So the article is wrong because we've done it before. I thought maybe Buttah could have been, but then they wouldn't have been calling Kaho Petersens highest recruit.

    Whelp, Wheels up, heading to Atlanta boys!
    It should be stated that Washington did buck that trend in 2016, so it's hard to rule the Huskies completely out. No team since the start of 247Sports' recruiting database has won a title without at least one of those two things, however. Washington could be the first
    Reading is hard
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    A program must have at least one 247Sports Composite five-star prospect on its roster (Every championship game participant and playoff team the last 16 years has had at least one).

    Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't recall us having a composite 5-star player since Shaq was on the team. Budda wasn't one, so I'm not sure who they think we had on our team in 2016 that would qualify for this criteria. That's a blatant error before they even started their analysis, which isn't a good sign.

    But regardless, this kind of "analysis" is just lazy and faulty. To start, it's being based off of a highly subjective measure (composite rankings, which includes ESPN's recruiting staff, a department that has less funding than Fetters' hot dog budget). And that subjective measure doesn't even look at those rankings holistically. If they were to measure the composite rankings of the entire roster, then their analysis would be a lot more convincing. But arbitrarily setting the cutoff at 5-star recruits is just a bad methodology.





  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,460
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    nor have they reeled in a top 10 class the last four cycles — anther critical indicator historically for championship game participants and playoff teams. It should be stated that Washington did buck that trend in 2016, so it's hard to rule the Huskies completely out.

    My understanding is THAT refers to not having a top 10 class but making the playoff anyway.

    The entire premise of the article is the criteria required to make the playoff and it states not one team has made it without at least 1 composite 5-star.

  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    Emptaman was a 2 star
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    edited August 2018
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    Stars are a leading indicator but not an end all be all ... UW gets good QB play and they are right in the mix
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,796
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    Tequilla said:

    Stars are a leading indicator but not an end all be all ... UW gets good QB play and they are right in the mix

    We can make the CFP with "good" QB play. But so far the evidence is skrong that it cannot be won - at our current talent level - w/o "elite" QB play.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    Tequilla said:

    Stars are a leading indicator but not an end all be all ... UW gets good QB play and they are right in the mix

    We can make the CFP with "good" QB play. But so far the evidence is skrong that it cannot be won - at our current talent level - w/o "elite" QB play.
    I agree with this 100% ... having elite QB play is one of the few competitive advantages that P12 schools have historically had against SEC schools
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,538
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    Matt Leinhart carved up Auburn in his first start and it was at Auburn

    We don't have Matt Leinhart though.

    RACESTOp
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