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"We've only been an elite program again for 1 year"

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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    salemcoog said:

    UW is the same level program as Clemson, LSU and Florida.

    We are below the first tier, but we are in the second tier. That's how we got Pete.

    If we had ACTUALLY fallen into the third tier (with teams like Ole Miss and Oklahoma State), there's no way we'd have gotten Pete.

    Other than the fact that those schools all have recent multiple natties....




    Spot on???
    Poont of clarification.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,468

    UW is the same level program as Clemson, LSU and Florida.

    We are below the first tier, but we are in the second tier. That's how we got Pete.

    If we had ACTUALLY fallen into the third tier (with teams like Ole Miss and Oklahoma State), there's no way we'd have gotten Pete.

    This. What other school in the country that hadn't dun better than 5-4 in conference since 2001 could have gotten Pete? The fundamentals were always there to be a top 10- 15 type program and we just fucked it up with decades of gross mismanagement. Look at Nebraska - who's gonna be their savior given the decay of their program?
    SLEEPING GIANT
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,808 Founders Club
    edited September 2017
    AZDuck said:

    UW is the same level program as Clemson, LSU and Florida.

    We are below the first tier, but we are in the second tier. That's how we got Pete.

    If we had ACTUALLY fallen into the third tier (with teams like Ole Miss and Oklahoma State), there's no way we'd have gotten Pete.

    This. What other school in the country that hadn't dun better than 5-4 in conference since 2001 could have gotten Pete? The fundamentals were always there to be a top 10- 15 type program and we just fucked it up with decades of gross mismanagement. Look at Nebraska - who's gonna be their savior given the decay of their program?
    SLEEPING Tier 2 GIANT
    Fixed.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Swaye said:

    I like this list:

    https://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/ranking-the-greatest-college-football-programs-of-all-time.html/?a=viewall

    I'd take the top 8 as serious Elite schools, but I could see the argument for including Miami and FSU, I just discounted them because their HUGE amount of success is relatively recent (going back to WWI). To me, 10-25 are second tier, and even though they only went to 15, 16-25 would include schools like UW, Oregon, Clemson, Tennessee, Wisconsin, etc.

    Agree. We're definitely Tier 2, say, somewhere between 15 and 20 ish. 1984 really fucked us- i.e., having 1.5 natties since 1980 would really boost the resume. Hell, we'd be tied with USC over the same timeframe (sorry 1979 USC...ha, ha)
    UW fucked itself in 1984.
    Yeah they lost a game on the road to a team that finished top 10; that's a pretty minor blemish on the best overall resume that year. 1984 BYU is the least deserving National Champ of the modern era of CF.
    You are right about BYU.
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 3,023
    Baseman said:

    AEB said:

    Fine. I accept the scorn. Furthermore, I accept the DDY tiered ranking of deuce. I’m full on Doog right now and in the preason poll, I stated I was still “happy to be here” and “not critical yet.” I still think the stadium getting done with a shitbag program was a huge signal to us being elite (defined now as tier deuce). Some Luddite mentioned ATM as a comp - yes, based on their financial backing and maneuvering into the SEC, ATM is a great comp and proof we aren’t shit. They even have their own Sark. Finally, UW has no single benefactor, an even bigger signal of our eliteness, and very much unlike our grellow, gas pumping, power bottom state neighbor or Okie State for examples.

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    Ahem. Big and Elite, you say?
    I just puked in my mouth.