Since when is winning a Rose Bowl a participation ribbon? Forget just the Petersen era. UW as a program hasn't won a big bowl game in fucking 18 years. Only one team wins the national title and it ain't going to be UW. "A shot at the playoffs" means absolutely fucking nothing when your team is not ready to compete at that level yet and only further damages the brand and national perception of the program by getting cock slapped by some BBC having, zero-fuck giving Bama thugs. For the first time in my life I would like to see UW finish the season with a big bowl win against a big-time opponent and use the glory of that big win to bring in a monster 2020 recruiting class.
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Since when is winning a Rose Bowl a participation ribbon? Forget just the Petersen era. UW as a program hasn't won a big bowl game in fucking 18 years. Only one team wins the national title and it ain't going to be UW. "A shot at the playoffs" means absolutely fucking nothing when your team is not ready to compete at that level yet and only further damages the brand and national perception of the program by getting cock slapped by some BBC having, zero-fuck giving Bama thugs. For the first time in my life I would like to see UW finish the season with a big bowl win against a big-time opponent and use the glory of that big win to bring in a monster 2020 recruiting class.
What a loser. This is what happens when you value TBSing over the games on the field.
Being a team to make the playoffs 2/3 years says a lot more than being a one hit wonder.
Of course we'll take a Rose Bowl if that's what the season presents, but it won't be better than getting to the only thing that matters In this era, a chance to compete for the real title.
It's not a loser mentality. It's about being realistic. UW in the playoffs means UW gets slaughtered again on national TV. You say you would rather have "a chance to compete for the real title" and that's the problem. UW can't compete at that level yet. Not with Brownsocks and these JAG receivers and JAG inside backers and probably JAG pass rushers.
For example, If you're a boxing coach do you want your fighter to accept a title shot against Mike Tyson in his prime before he's anywhere near ready to fight that dude. No, because he's gonna get killed and fuck up his confidence.
Another example, USC post Rose Bowl victory against Penn State was on fire. National perception of them increased massively, the SC hype train started again, and recruits took notice and wanted to jump on board including our #1 recruit at the time. Compare that to SC after getting stomped by Notre Dame and Ohio State. Their perception is down and recruits are wondering if Helton is the right guy? Will he be there for four more years? Can he develop players and put them in the league? A guy you would normally expect to be an SC lock (Faatui Tuitele) eliminates them early in his process. Sama Paama commits to UW before even visiting SC.
Basically, winning big bowl games against quality national opponents is GOOD. Getting you're ass whooped in big bowl games against national opponents is BAD. UW is not winning a Playoff game and they certainly aren't winning the national title so making the Playoffs only adds another loss to their record (probably an ugly, blowout loss) and hurts the program brand, perception, and recruiting. On top of that the players won't be confident playing against quality national opponents until they get some wins against them. The Penn State game they were a bunch of shrivel dicks again. Penn State looked way more confident and relaxed than UW.
UW needs to take a step forward this season. That means winning the conference title again and winning the Rose Bowl against a tough national opponent like Michigan or Penn State. Losing their bowl game is not a step forward. It's more of the same and opposing coaches will be telling recruits "UW can't win the big game, they've plateaued, they're as good as they're gonna get, come here and win a national title, etc". For fuck sakes, Petersen has zero impressive bowl wins at UW. He needs one on his resume.
Since when is winning a Rose Bowl a participation ribbon? Forget just the Petersen era. UW as a program hasn't won a big bowl game in fucking 18 years. Only one team wins the national title and it ain't going to be UW. "A shot at the playoffs" means absolutely fucking nothing when your team is not ready to compete at that level yet and only further damages the brand and national perception of the program by getting cock slapped by some BBC having, zero-fuck giving Bama thugs. For the first time in my life I would like to see UW finish the season with a big bowl win against a big-time opponent and use the glory of that big win to bring in a monster 2020 recruiting class.
What a loser. This is what happens when you value TBSing over the games on the field.
Being a team to make the playoffs 2/3 years says a lot more than being a one hit wonder.
Of course we'll take a Rose Bowl if that's what the season presents, but it won't be better than getting to the only thing that matters In this era, a chance to compete for the real title.
It's not a loser mentality. It's about being realistic. UW in the playoffs means UW gets slaughtered again on national TV. You say you would rather have "a chance to compete for the real title" and that's the problem. UW can't compete at that level yet. Not with Brownsocks and these JAG receivers and JAG inside backers and probably JAG pass rushers.
For example, If you're a boxing coach do you want your fighter to accept a title shot against Mike Tyson in his prime before he's anywhere near ready to fight that dude. No, because he's gonna get killed and fuck up his confidence.
Another example, USC post Rose Bowl victory against Penn State was on fire. National perception of them increased massively, the SC hype train started again, and recruits took notice and wanted to jump on board including our #1 recruit at the time. Compare that to SC after getting stomped by Notre Dame and Ohio State. Their perception is down and recruits are wondering if Helton is the right guy? Will he be there for four more years? Can he develop players and put them in the league? A guy you would normally expect to be an SC lock (Faatui Tuitele) eliminates them early in his process. Sama Paama commits to UW before even visiting SC.
Basically, winning big bowl games against quality national opponents is GOOD. Getting you're ass whooped in big bowl games against national opponents is BAD. UW is not winning a Playoff game and they certainly aren't winning the national title so making the Playoffs only adds another loss to their record (probably an ugly, blowout loss) and hurts the program brand, perception, and recruiting. On top of that the players won't be confident playing against quality national opponents until they get some wins against them. The Penn State game they were a bunch of shrivel dicks again. Penn State looked way more confident and relaxed than UW.
UW needs to take a step forward this season. That means winning the conference title again and winning the Rose Bowl against a tough national opponent like Michigan or Penn State. Losing their bowl game is not a step forward. It's more of the same and opposing coaches will be telling recruits "UW can't win the big game, they've plateaued, they're as good as they're gonna get, come here and win a national title, etc". For fuck sakes, Petersen has zero impressive bowl wins at UW. He needs one on his resume.
Just like it was better that we went to the Fiesta Bowl last year right?
Since when is winning a Rose Bowl a participation ribbon? Forget just the Petersen era. UW as a program hasn't won a big bowl game in fucking 18 years. Only one team wins the national title and it ain't going to be UW. "A shot at the playoffs" means absolutely fucking nothing when your team is not ready to compete at that level yet and only further damages the brand and national perception of the program by getting cock slapped by some BBC having, zero-fuck giving Bama thugs. For the first time in my life I would like to see UW finish the season with a big bowl win against a big-time opponent and use the glory of that big win to bring in a monster 2020 recruiting class.
What a loser. This is what happens when you value TBSing over the games on the field.
Being a team to make the playoffs 2/3 years says a lot more than being a one hit wonder.
Of course we'll take a Rose Bowl if that's what the season presents, but it won't be better than getting to the only thing that matters In this era, a chance to compete for the real title.
It's not a loser mentality. It's about being realistic. UW in the playoffs means UW gets slaughtered again on national TV. You say you would rather have "a chance to compete for the real title" and that's the problem. UW can't compete at that level yet. Not with Brownsocks and these JAG receivers and JAG inside backers and probably JAG pass rushers.
For example, If you're a boxing coach do you want your fighter to accept a title shot against Mike Tyson in his prime before he's anywhere near ready to fight that dude. No, because he's gonna get killed and fuck up his confidence.
Another example, USC post Rose Bowl victory against Penn State was on fire. National perception of them increased massively, the SC hype train started again, and recruits took notice and wanted to jump on board including our #1 recruit at the time. Compare that to SC after getting stomped by Notre Dame and Ohio State. Their perception is down and recruits are wondering if Helton is the right guy? Will he be there for four more years? Can he develop players and put them in the league? A guy you would normally expect to be an SC lock (Faatui Tuitele) eliminates them early in his process. Sama Paama commits to UW before even visiting SC.
Basically, winning big bowl games against quality national opponents is GOOD. Getting you're ass whooped in big bowl games against national opponents is BAD. UW is not winning a Playoff game and they certainly aren't winning the national title so making the Playoffs only adds another loss to their record (probably an ugly, blowout loss) and hurts the program brand, perception, and recruiting. On top of that the players won't be confident playing against quality national opponents until they get some wins against them. The Penn State game they were a bunch of shrivel dicks again. Penn State looked way more confident and relaxed than UW.
UW needs to take a step forward this season. That means winning the conference title again and winning the Rose Bowl against a tough national opponent like Michigan or Penn State. Losing their bowl game is not a step forward. It's more of the same and opposing coaches will be telling recruits "UW can't win the big game, they've plateaued, they're as good as they're gonna get, come here and win a national title, etc". For fuck sakes, Petersen has zero impressive bowl wins at UW. He needs one on his resume.
So missing the playoffs and losing the Cotton Bowel is worse than missing the playoffs and winning the Rose Bowel?
W. JW.
Higher level shit. We're just lucky you poast here at all.
@dnc So if UW makes the Playoffs again and get stomped by Bama by 40 points in a semi-final game and USC goes to the Rose Bowl and beats Michigan or somebody with JT Daniels giving Helton two Rose Bowl victories to his name are you going to be happy? Or are you going to think maybe it would have been better for UW to go to the Rose Bowl and have a better chance at winning that game than the Playoff game. You're a fucking idiot if you say you'd still rather take the Playoff game. WE DON'T WANT BAMA YOU DUMBFUCK!
@dnc So if UW makes the Playoffs again and get stomped by Bama by 40 points in a semi-final game and USC goes to the Rose Bowl and beats Michigan or somebody with JT Daniels giving Helton two Rose Bowl victories to his name are you going to be happy? Or are you going to think maybe it would have been better for UW to go to the Rose Bowl and have a better chance at winning that game than the Playoff game. You're a fucking idiot if you say you'd still rather take the Playoff game. WE DON'T WANT BAMA YOU DUMBFUCK!
Sure I'd take a RB win over a 40 point loss to Bama.
Since when is winning a Rose Bowl a participation ribbon? Forget just the Petersen era. UW as a program hasn't won a big bowl game in fucking 18 years. Only one team wins the national title and it ain't going to be UW. "A shot at the playoffs" means absolutely fucking nothing when your team is not ready to compete at that level yet and only further damages the brand and national perception of the program by getting cock slapped by some BBC having, zero-fuck giving Bama thugs. For the first time in my life I would like to see UW finish the season with a big bowl win against a big-time opponent and use the glory of that big win to bring in a monster 2020 recruiting class.
What a loser. This is what happens when you value TBSing over the games on the field.
Being a team to make the playoffs 2/3 years says a lot more than being a one hit wonder.
Of course we'll take a Rose Bowl if that's what the season presents, but it won't be better than getting to the only thing that matters In this era, a chance to compete for the real title.
It's not a loser mentality. It's about being realistic. UW in the playoffs means UW gets slaughtered again on national TV. You say you would rather have "a chance to compete for the real title" and that's the problem. UW can't compete at that level yet. Not with Brownsocks and these JAG receivers and JAG inside backers and probably JAG pass rushers.
For example, If you're a boxing coach do you want your fighter to accept a title shot against Mike Tyson in his prime before he's anywhere near ready to fight that dude. No, because he's gonna get killed and fuck up his confidence.
Another example, USC post Rose Bowl victory against Penn State was on fire. National perception of them increased massively, the SC hype train started again, and recruits took notice and wanted to jump on board including our #1 recruit at the time. Compare that to SC after getting stomped by Notre Dame and Ohio State. Their perception is down and recruits are wondering if Helton is the right guy? Will he be there for four more years? Can he develop players and put them in the league? A guy you would normally expect to be an SC lock (Faatui Tuitele) eliminates them early in his process. Sama Paama commits to UW before even visiting SC.
Basically, winning big bowl games against quality national opponents is GOOD. Getting you're ass whooped in big bowl games against national opponents is BAD. UW is not winning a Playoff game and they certainly aren't winning the national title so making the Playoffs only adds another loss to their record (probably an ugly, blowout loss) and hurts the program brand, perception, and recruiting. On top of that the players won't be confident playing against quality national opponents until they get some wins against them. The Penn State game they were a bunch of shrivel dicks again. Penn State looked way more confident and relaxed than UW.
UW needs to take a step forward this season. That means winning the conference title again and winning the Rose Bowl against a tough national opponent like Michigan or Penn State. Losing their bowl game is not a step forward. It's more of the same and opposing coaches will be telling recruits "UW can't win the big game, they've plateaued, they're as good as they're gonna get, come here and win a national title, etc". For fuck sakes, Petersen has zero impressive bowl wins at UW. He needs one on his resume.
Just like it was better that we went to the Fiesta Bowl last year right?
Yeah it was fucking better you idiot. At least we had a chance to win the fucking game. The semi-competitive game against Bama has you idiots overestimating UW's ability to compete at that level. Jalen Hurts couldn't throw the fucking ball. He was a RB playing QB. That's why our defense was able to look respectable. But Bama with a capable QB like Tua Tagovailoa would absolutely slaughter UW with Brownsocks. 40 point blowout and that's if their nice and don't run up the score on us.
Or let's put it this way, if we're bad enough to lose to Bama by 40 we sure as shit ain't winning the Rose Bowel. Let's hope we make the Holiday Bowel so we can win!
Since when is winning a Rose Bowl a participation ribbon? Forget just the Petersen era. UW as a program hasn't won a big bowl game in fucking 18 years. Only one team wins the national title and it ain't going to be UW. "A shot at the playoffs" means absolutely fucking nothing when your team is not ready to compete at that level yet and only further damages the brand and national perception of the program by getting cock slapped by some BBC having, zero-fuck giving Bama thugs. For the first time in my life I would like to see UW finish the season with a big bowl win against a big-time opponent and use the glory of that big win to bring in a monster 2020 recruiting class.
What a loser. This is what happens when you value TBSing over the games on the field.
Being a team to make the playoffs 2/3 years says a lot more than being a one hit wonder.
Of course we'll take a Rose Bowl if that's what the season presents, but it won't be better than getting to the only thing that matters In this era, a chance to compete for the real title.
It's not a loser mentality. It's about being realistic. UW in the playoffs means UW gets slaughtered again on national TV. You say you would rather have "a chance to compete for the real title" and that's the problem. UW can't compete at that level yet. Not with Brownsocks and these JAG receivers and JAG inside backers and probably JAG pass rushers.
For example, If you're a boxing coach do you want your fighter to accept a title shot against Mike Tyson in his prime before he's anywhere near ready to fight that dude. No, because he's gonna get killed and fuck up his confidence.
Another example, USC post Rose Bowl victory against Penn State was on fire. National perception of them increased massively, the SC hype train started again, and recruits took notice and wanted to jump on board including our #1 recruit at the time. Compare that to SC after getting stomped by Notre Dame and Ohio State. Their perception is down and recruits are wondering if Helton is the right guy? Will he be there for four more years? Can he develop players and put them in the league? A guy you would normally expect to be an SC lock (Faatui Tuitele) eliminates them early in his process. Sama Paama commits to UW before even visiting SC.
Basically, winning big bowl games against quality national opponents is GOOD. Getting you're ass whooped in big bowl games against national opponents is BAD. UW is not winning a Playoff game and they certainly aren't winning the national title so making the Playoffs only adds another loss to their record (probably an ugly, blowout loss) and hurts the program brand, perception, and recruiting. On top of that the players won't be confident playing against quality national opponents until they get some wins against them. The Penn State game they were a bunch of shrivel dicks again. Penn State looked way more confident and relaxed than UW.
UW needs to take a step forward this season. That means winning the conference title again and winning the Rose Bowl against a tough national opponent like Michigan or Penn State. Losing their bowl game is not a step forward. It's more of the same and opposing coaches will be telling recruits "UW can't win the big game, they've plateaued, they're as good as they're gonna get, come here and win a national title, etc". For fuck sakes, Petersen has zero impressive bowl wins at UW. He needs one on his resume.
Just like it was better that we went to the Fiesta Bowl last year right?
Yeah it was fucking better you idiot. At least we had a chance to win the fucking game. The semi-competitive game against Bama has you idiots overestimating UW's ability to compete at that level. Jalen Hurts couldn't throw the fucking ball. He was a RB playing QB. That's why our defense was able to look respectable. But Bama with a capable QB like Tua Tagovailoa would absolutely slaughter UW with Brownsocks. 40 point blowout and that's if their nice and don't run up the score on us.
I liked this fucktarded argument better when PGOS was the fucktard
@dnc So if UW makes the Playoffs again and get stomped by Bama by 40 points in a semi-final game and USC goes to the Rose Bowl and beats Michigan or somebody with JT Daniels giving Helton two Rose Bowl victories to his name are you going to be happy? Or are you going to think maybe it would have been better for UW to go to the Rose Bowl and have a better chance at winning that game than the Playoff game. You're a fucking idiot if you say you'd still rather take the Playoff game. WE DON'T WANT BAMA YOU DUMBFUCK!
Except you keep framing it as we will win the rose bowel which is far from any guarantee. See the fiesta bowel last year.
I'd rather our team becomes a fixture in the CFP even if it's as the 4th team in.
Both are uncertain outcomes but one gives you notoriety in and of itself.
I'd also like to poont out that if we make the playoff there's only a 33% chance of meeting Bama in round one (actually less because Bama's not guaranteed to make it, but basically 33%). Winning the round 1 playoff game >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not making the playoffs.
Considering there's no guarantee you win the RB anyway it's a no fucking brainer you take the playoffs over the RB every fucking time. Weird shit happens. You want as many cracks at the pinata as you can get.
Or let's put it this way, if we're bad enough to lose to Bama by 40 we sure as shit ain't winning the Rose Bowel. Let's hope we make the Holiday Bowel so we can win!
No we can beat Michigan or Penn State this season. Michigan has had issues at the QB position like we have and probably will again this season. Penn State without Barkley is much more beatable. Bama's recruiting is on an entirely different level than those schools and would slaughter us.
@dnc So if UW makes the Playoffs again and get stomped by Bama by 40 points in a semi-final game and USC goes to the Rose Bowl and beats Michigan or somebody with JT Daniels giving Helton two Rose Bowl victories to his name are you going to be happy? Or are you going to think maybe it would have been better for UW to go to the Rose Bowl and have a better chance at winning that game than the Playoff game. You're a fucking idiot if you say you'd still rather take the Playoff game. WE DON'T WANT BAMA YOU DUMBFUCK!
Except you keep framing it as we will win the rose bowel which is far from any guarantee. See the fiesta bowel last year.
I'd rather our team becomes a fixture in the CFP even if it's as the 4th team in.
Both are uncertain outcomes but one gives you notoriety in and of itself.
NOGAF that the 2009 ducks lost the rose bowel.
How many fucking times do I have to say it? I'm not guaranteeing a Rose Bowl victory but arguing UW's chances of winning that game are much higher than a Playoff game. There's a huge fucking difference between Bama/Ohio State/Georgia recruiting and Penn State, Michigan, Nebraska recruiting. I would say chances of beating Bama in a playoff game are 2% right now. Chances of winning the Rose Bowl against say Michgan, 40% chance.
Getting your ass beat in the playoffs gives you notoriety alright. Notoriety means being famous or well known for a negative reason. UW would gain notoriety nationally for being a college football PRETENDER who can't compete with the big boys.
I'd also like to poont out that if we make the playoff there's only a 33% chance of meeting Bama in round one (actually less because Bama's not guaranteed to make it, but basically 33%). Winning the round 1 playoff game >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not making the playoffs.
Considering there's no guarantee you win the RB anyway it's a no fucking brainer you take the playoffs over the RB every fucking time. Weird shit happens. You want as many cracks at the pinata as you can get.
Yeap, if you have a 50/50 shot at $10k or a 20/80 shot at $100k you take the 20/80 everyday.
Plus, none of these scenarios are guaranteed. Weird shit happens. Contenders lose their divisions. 2 loss teams sneak into conference championships. Good teams drop bad games against Appalachia States etc. Just because the parity in is lower in college football doesn't mean the games shouldn't get played. You take the shot at the title whenever you can get it.
I'd also like to poont out that if we make the playoff there's only a 33% chance of meeting Bama in round one (actually less because Bama's not guaranteed to make it, but basically 33%). Winning the round 1 playoff game >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not making the playoffs.
Considering there's no guarantee you win the RB anyway it's a no fucking brainer you take the playoffs over the RB every fucking time. Weird shit happens. You want as many cracks at the pinata as you can get.
UW is NOT beating anybody in the Playoffs with Jake Browning. Get the fuck out of here.
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For example, If you're a boxing coach do you want your fighter to accept a title shot against Mike Tyson in his prime before he's anywhere near ready to fight that dude. No, because he's gonna get killed and fuck up his confidence.
Another example, USC post Rose Bowl victory against Penn State was on fire. National perception of them increased massively, the SC hype train started again, and recruits took notice and wanted to jump on board including our #1 recruit at the time. Compare that to SC after getting stomped by Notre Dame and Ohio State. Their perception is down and recruits are wondering if Helton is the right guy? Will he be there for four more years? Can he develop players and put them in the league? A guy you would normally expect to be an SC lock (Faatui Tuitele) eliminates them early in his process. Sama Paama commits to UW before even visiting SC.
Basically, winning big bowl games against quality national opponents is GOOD. Getting you're ass whooped in big bowl games against national opponents is BAD. UW is not winning a Playoff game and they certainly aren't winning the national title so making the Playoffs only adds another loss to their record (probably an ugly, blowout loss) and hurts the program brand, perception, and recruiting. On top of that the players won't be confident playing against quality national opponents until they get some wins against them. The Penn State game they were a bunch of shrivel dicks again. Penn State looked way more confident and relaxed than UW.
UW needs to take a step forward this season. That means winning the conference title again and winning the Rose Bowl against a tough national opponent like Michigan or Penn State. Losing their bowl game is not a step forward. It's more of the same and opposing coaches will be telling recruits "UW can't win the big game, they've plateaued, they're as good as they're gonna get, come here and win a national title, etc". For fuck sakes, Petersen has zero impressive bowl wins at UW. He needs one on his resume.
Just like it was better that we went to the Fiesta Bowl last year right?
W. JW.
Higher level shit. We're just lucky you poast here at all.
We're not going to lose by 40 to Bama.
STOp being a pussy.
I'd rather our team becomes a fixture in the CFP even if it's as the 4th team in.
Both are uncertain outcomes but one gives you notoriety in and of itself.
NOGAF that the 2009 ducks lost the rose bowel.
Considering there's no guarantee you win the RB anyway it's a no fucking brainer you take the playoffs over the RB every fucking time. Weird shit happens. You want as many cracks at the pinata as you can get.
Getting your ass beat in the playoffs gives you notoriety alright. Notoriety means being famous or well known for a negative reason. UW would gain notoriety nationally for being a college football PRETENDER who can't compete with the big boys.
Plus, none of these scenarios are guaranteed. Weird shit happens. Contenders lose their divisions. 2 loss teams sneak into conference championships. Good teams drop bad games against Appalachia States etc. Just because the parity in is lower in college football doesn't mean the games shouldn't get played. You take the shot at the title whenever you can get it.