I want this kid horribly. He looks fantastic. Not even sure where you play him he's so good at so many things.
RB.
There aren't many good RBs on the WC next year we are likely to get. There are a lot of great WRs and Ss, so I would put him at RB.
I'd actually consider recruiting him as an athlete and letting the class start to figure out where he ends up.
I have a hard time believing that he's gotten great coaching at Garfield ... so he's got a great potential to be molded into an elite player at any position he ends up at.
Sometimes these boreds are so white. Seattle public schools biggest problem isn't coaching. It's small turnouts.
The little league football in the CD and Rainier Valley is still top notch, with heavily involved parents and coaches. You can see future bad-ass players at 10-12 years old. Many or most top performers get plucked by Coker's Man-on-Man mill O'Dea, or Eastside Catholic, Kennedy, Blanchet, AB Murphy, etc. Others will enroll at Bellevue, Newport, Quah, Edmonds-Woodway, or Meadowdale.
Garfield had Mark Stewart for a year, after owning WESCO at Meadowdale for a decade. He moved on, but the current coach is not bad. The hardest thing for Garfield, Franklin, and other Metro Schools is winning games outside of Metro with 25 to 30 players on their sideline, compared to 70 or 80 across the field. Watch an O'Dea practice sometime and you'll see where the in-City talent goes, even though a bunch of them right short buses.
Coaching, funding, turn out.. The schools plucking those kids have better coaching. It's naive to think otherwise.
Lincoln in Tacoma was very similar to the Seattle schools. Once they got a good coach, kids went to Lincoln instead of Lakes, Curtis, Wilson, Bellarmine, etc. That combined with good coaching made them a good program. It's not rocket science.
Tacoma has only Bellarmine, Roady. And what kid is going to Franklin if he gets a free ride at Kennedy, Blanchet, O'Dea or Prep.
And if you're right, why couldn't Stewart win at Garfield after going 13-1 a couple times elsewhere? Answer: 85 players vs 25. There's only so many to go around. Metro is a Basketball league.
I'm sure it's difficult, but you cultivate relationships with the youth programs and recruit. Go to junior highs and get involved with the kids. Give them some pointers, take an interest in their life, meet the parents.
The GTA has Bellarmine, Lakes, Curtis, Mt Tahoma, Wilson, etc. All schools with some good players. Lincoln took players away that would have went to those schools. They also made kids practice, started off season training, and cared about the fucking kids.
No reason why Garfield can't do the same to the Seattle Public Schools. You sell the program, actively get kids to turn out. Despite the difficulties, it's the same as anywhere else. You make the program something that is cool and beneficial to be involved with.
There is a reason only 25-30 kids turn out. The coaching is dreck and I doubt they put anywhere near the effort the coaches at the premier high schools do.
Not saying it couldn't happen. Saying it won't. No time soon. Not even with proven great coaches like Stewart.
I'm not as well versed with Garfield football or Stewart as you. I know there are difficulties. Money plays a big part and parents rightfully send their kids to private schools.
It won't happen because the district, principals, and AD's don't really care.
Most the coaches only coach because they enjoy football and have some kind of playing background. They get a little extra money too. They don't want to put in the effort to win.
I've seen it a lot. It even happens at private schools. Why should they put in all that extra effort? It doesn't get them paid more, most have families, and they inherit shitty teams.
Let me just say FUCKING THIS to this comment. Some Roosevelt parents were advocating putting portables on the football field because the school is crammed, and you know, "Who needs sports? Right?" Fucking awful, horrible people. The fucking worst kinds of dull, boring, dreadful, humorless, joyless mother-fucking people ever. Goddamn, I am growing to hate this fucking city with a passion.
Ironically, Hale is now decent in Football and great in Basketball. And families are now clamoring to get in there, when only a few years back, many were bitching when they got sent to Hale and away from Roosevelt. Horrible cunts.
Hale still sucks at football and virtually everything else.
Roosevelt, Garfield and Ballard after working years to play up to Kingco 4A levels, are now playing down to the metro public competition.
Okay, Hales mediocre, but a winning record at least. Have you seen Sealth, Cleveland or Ingraham play? If NH sucks, what properly describes those shit shows?
Hale and Roosevelt (Lake City Braves which probably also feeds in to Blanchet, Seattle Prep and ODea) and to the same extent Ballard have the benefit of some junior football feeding into them. It's not great junior football but some is better than none. Hale has had the benefit of playing a pretty soft schedule. They were winning their division when Ballard Roosevelt and Garfield were playing in Kingco. BTW winning playoff games against Wesco teams is the equivalent of beating seamount teams. Hale and Roosevelt have benefited as well as having some stability at the head coaching position.
I want this kid horribly. He looks fantastic. Not even sure where you play him he's so good at so many things.
RB.
There aren't many good RBs on the WC next year we are likely to get. There are a lot of great WRs and Ss, so I would put him at RB.
I'd actually consider recruiting him as an athlete and letting the class start to figure out where he ends up.
I have a hard time believing that he's gotten great coaching at Garfield ... so he's got a great potential to be molded into an elite player at any position he ends up at.
Sometimes these boreds are so white. Seattle public schools biggest problem isn't coaching. It's small turnouts.
The little league football in the CD and Rainier Valley is still top notch, with heavily involved parents and coaches. You can see future bad-ass players at 10-12 years old. Many or most top performers get plucked by Coker's Man-on-Man mill O'Dea, or Eastside Catholic, Kennedy, Blanchet, AB Murphy, etc. Others will enroll at Bellevue, Newport, Quah, Edmonds-Woodway, or Meadowdale.
Garfield had Mark Stewart for a year, after owning WESCO at Meadowdale for a decade. He moved on, but the current coach is not bad. The hardest thing for Garfield, Franklin, and other Metro Schools is winning games outside of Metro with 25 to 30 players on their sideline, compared to 70 or 80 across the field. Watch an O'Dea practice sometime and you'll see where the in-City talent goes, even though a bunch of them right short buses.
Coaching, funding, turn out.. The schools plucking those kids have better coaching. It's naive to think otherwise.
Lincoln in Tacoma was very similar to the Seattle schools. Once they got a good coach, kids went to Lincoln instead of Lakes, Curtis, Wilson, Bellarmine, etc. That combined with good coaching made them a good program. It's not rocket science.
Tacoma has only Bellarmine, Roady. And what kid is going to Franklin if he gets a free ride at Kennedy, Blanchet, O'Dea or Prep.
And if you're right, why couldn't Stewart win at Garfield after going 13-1 a couple times elsewhere? Answer: 85 players vs 25. There's only so many to go around. Metro is a Basketball league.
I'm sure it's difficult, but you cultivate relationships with the youth programs and recruit. Go to junior highs and get involved with the kids. Give them some pointers, take an interest in their life, meet the parents.
The GTA has Bellarmine, Lakes, Curtis, Mt Tahoma, Wilson, etc. All schools with some good players. Lincoln took players away that would have went to those schools. They also made kids practice, started off season training, and cared about the fucking kids.
No reason why Garfield can't do the same to the Seattle Public Schools. You sell the program, actively get kids to turn out. Despite the difficulties, it's the same as anywhere else. You make the program something that is cool and beneficial to be involved with.
There is a reason only 25-30 kids turn out. The coaching is dreck and I doubt they put anywhere near the effort the coaches at the premier high schools do.
Not saying it couldn't happen. Saying it won't. No time soon. Not even with proven great coaches like Stewart.
I'm not as well versed with Garfield football or Stewart as you. I know there are difficulties. Money plays a big part and parents rightfully send their kids to private schools.
It won't happen because the district, principals, and AD's don't really care.
Most the coaches only coach because they enjoy football and have some kind of playing background. They get a little extra money too. They don't want to put in the effort to win.
I've seen it a lot. It even happens at private schools. Why should they put in all that extra effort? It doesn't get them paid more, most have families, and they inherit shitty teams.
Let me just say FUCKING THIS to this comment. Some Roosevelt parents were advocating putting portables on the football field because the school is crammed, and you know, "Who needs sports? Right?" Fucking awful, horrible people. The fucking worst kinds of dull, boring, dreadful, humorless, joyless mother-fucking people ever. Goddamn, I am growing to hate this fucking city with a passion.
Ironically, Hale is now decent in Football and great in Basketball. And families are now clamoring to get in there, when only a few years back, many were bitching when they got sent to Hale and away from Roosevelt. Horrible cunts.
Hale still sucks at football and virtually everything else.
Roosevelt, Garfield and Ballard after working years to play up to Kingco 4A levels, are now playing down to the metro public competition.
Okay, Hales mediocre, but a winning record at least. Have you seen Sealth, Cleveland or Ingraham play? If NH sucks, what properly describes those shit shows?
Hale and Roosevelt (Lake City Braves which probably also feeds in to Blanchet, Seattle Prep and ODea) and to the same extent Ballard have the benefit of some junior football feeding into them. It's not great junior football but some is better than none. Hale has had the benefit of playing a pretty soft schedule. They were winning their division when Ballard Roosevelt and Garfield were playing in Kingco. BTW winning playoff games against Wesco teams is the equivalent of beating seamount teams. Hale and Roosevelt have benefited as well as having some stability at the head coaching position.
If you mean ECath or O'Dea, that's one thing. But Wesco fucking plungered the Metro publics this year, so what are you talking about?
Wow talking shit about Roosevelt! Come catch these hands at 7-11 I'm ready to rumble @dnc
@huskyhooligan is correct, Roosevelt kids mostly drink beer down at Magnuson and drive drunk and then twenty years later sit around the duchess and suck each other's dicks over the "glory" days. It's pretty sick.
Don't we all do that? Is that considered bad somehow?
You sound like some sort of sober, responsible, mature grown-up.
Hey if we're going to eliminate EC and O'Dea lets throw out Meadowdale and the league looks even more soft all things considered such as actual peewee or middle school football in most of those locations. Lets also remember that most of Metro is playing up in classification. Bainbridge, Ingraham, Franklin, Hale, Sealth, West Seattle, Cleveland, and Beach (I'm excluding private schools for obvious reasons) should be in 2A.
So now you're making excuses for why Metro pubs got plungered by Wesco's? Perennially soft Lynnwood (Wesco #4) has one average year and crushed both Ballard and Garfield (Legit 3A/Not Opt-ups) hanging 56 and 63 points on them. Metro's pubs didn't win a single playoff game. Wesco puts several 3A and 4A teams in the playoffs every year, and they advance. Point is Seattle's pubs have no sidelines & thus, no game. Metro is the softest football league in Western Washington, by far.
But quick old Duchess guy side note, RIP to Bill Resler.
Damn! I hadn't heard about this. He was a fanstastic coach and brilliant professor. Had him for a strategic tax planning course at Foster. Basically taught us how to how to outsmart the IRS...it was rad. Anybody that shows up to class everyday wearing sweatpants is alright by me. RIP Bill
So now you're making excuses for why Metro pubs got plungered by Wesco's? Perennially soft Lynnwood (Wesco #4) has one average year and crushed both Ballard and Garfield (Legit 3A/Not Opt-ups) hanging 56 and 63 points on them. Metro's pubs didn't win a single playoff game. Wesco puts several 3A and 4A teams in the playoffs every year, and they advance. Point is Seattle's pubs have no sidelines & thus, no game. Metro is the softest football league in Western Washington, by far.
So now you're making excuses for why Metro pubs got plungered by Wesco's? Perennially soft Lynnwood (Wesco #4) has one average year and crushed both Ballard and Garfield (Legit 3A/Not Opt-ups) hanging 56 and 63 points on them. Metro's pubs didn't win a single playoff game. Wesco puts several 3A and 4A teams in the playoffs every year, and they advance. Point is Seattle's pubs have no sidelines & thus, no game. Metro is the softest football league in Western Washington, by far.
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You sound like some sort of sober, responsible, mature grown-up.
LEAVE!!
And yes we all do that, but listening to the old guys at the duchess talk about their old Roosevelt/Blanchet days can get annoying as fuck.
Perennially soft Lynnwood (Wesco #4) has one average year and crushed both Ballard and Garfield (Legit 3A/Not Opt-ups) hanging 56 and 63 points on them. Metro's pubs didn't win a single playoff game. Wesco puts several 3A and 4A teams in the playoffs every year, and they advance. Point is Seattle's pubs have no sidelines & thus, no game. Metro is the softest football league in Western Washington, by far.