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World to be a half degree cooler with new agreement

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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,280
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    edited October 2016
    2001400ex said:

    Didn't figure it would take death long to reply to a global warming thread.

    China will start reducing greenhouse gases 8 years from now and India will start in 12. BRB JO

    At the current rate, we'll have WW3 before then, which will probably kill this deal.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    Didn't figure it would take death long to reply to a global warming thread.

    China will start reducing greenhouse gases 8 years from now and India will start in 12. BRB JO

    At the current rate, we'll have WW3 before then, which will probably kill this deal.
    Yes it's lame. They should start reducing greenhouse gases now. But the conservatives went with business needs over environment and liberals were too much of a pussy to push back. If anyone here has been to China or India, you'll know they need to reduce that shit now.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,003
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    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Sledog said:

    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.

    You'd rather go back to when rivers were catching on fire. The economy being strangled by EPA is bunch of bullshit.
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,280
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.

    You'd rather go back to when rivers were catching on fire. The economy being strangled by EPA is bunch of bullshit.
    It actually isn't. EPA regulations have been another reason manufacturing companies have moved overseas. Because environmental controls have such an economic tie to it, controls must have a global standard and all nations must follow it. All this deal does is guarantee China another 12 years of competitive advantages over the rest of the world.
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.

    You'd rather go back to when rivers were catching on fire. The economy being strangled by EPA is bunch of bullshit.
    It actually isn't. EPA regulations have been another reason manufacturing companies have moved overseas. Because environmental controls have such an economic tie to it, controls must have a global standard and all nations must follow it. All this deal does is guarantee China another 12 years of competitive advantages over the rest of the world.
    Have you been to China?

    They can have their zero protection manufacturing jobs.

    I like to be able to breathe the air.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.

    You'd rather go back to when rivers were catching on fire. The economy being strangled by EPA is bunch of bullshit.
    It actually isn't. EPA regulations have been another reason manufacturing companies have moved overseas. Because environmental controls have such an economic tie to it, controls must have a global standard and all nations must follow it. All this deal does is guarantee China another 12 years of competitive advantages over the rest of the world.
    Then why are a lot of jobs over there call centers and human capital jobs? Jobs are outsourced cause people will work all day for a bowl of rice. I'm my world, we start people off at $50k first day out of school. In India, they work for $9k. Not to mention that Japan manufacturers cars here while GM and Ford manufacture in Canada and Mexico.

    Regulations are a tiny part of why businesses outsource.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,003
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.

    You'd rather go back to when rivers were catching on fire. The economy being strangled by EPA is bunch of bullshit.
    Only rivers I've seen destroyed were the fault of the EPA. Check out the mess Durango Colorado on the Animas river. The EPA destroyed the entire eco system, not once but twice. They were told by experts not to mess with it as it would do exactly what occurred. the EPA is now just an arm of the "progressives" (code for commie but you know that being a member) used to destroy the economy because change of that magnitude can not occur without crisis and the EPA through it's overreaching regulations causes economic loss.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.

    You'd rather go back to when rivers were catching on fire. The economy being strangled by EPA is bunch of bullshit.
    Only rivers I've seen destroyed were the fault of the EPA. Check out the mess Durango Colorado on the Animas river. The EPA destroyed the entire eco system, not once but twice. They were told by experts not to mess with it as it would do exactly what occurred. the EPA is now just an arm of the "progressives" (code for commie but you know that being a member) used to destroy the economy because change of that magnitude can not occur without crisis and the EPA through it's overreaching regulations causes economic loss.
    Oh, so you are saying the environment is worse now than it was in the 50s and 60s before the EPA?

    Remember, @RaceBannon stands with this.
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.

    You'd rather go back to when rivers were catching on fire. The economy being strangled by EPA is bunch of bullshit.
    It actually isn't. EPA regulations have been another reason manufacturing companies have moved overseas. Because environmental controls have such an economic tie to it, controls must have a global standard and all nations must follow it. All this deal does is guarantee China another 12 years of competitive advantages over the rest of the world.
    Have you been to China?

    They can have their zero protection manufacturing jobs.

    I like to be able to breathe the air.
    That's exactly his point though...when those jobs were here (and other places) they didn't cause the pollution that they do in China.
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    DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,476
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    How self-important of America to think our Carbon foot print matters while China and India keep pumping out carcinogens and making us pay for it.

    China will continue to do what they do, collect our debt, and pollute the planet to make profits at wal-mart.

    You're going to be happy we over spent on military shit the last 30 years when it all goes down.
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,280
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    edited October 2016

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.

    You'd rather go back to when rivers were catching on fire. The economy being strangled by EPA is bunch of bullshit.
    It actually isn't. EPA regulations have been another reason manufacturing companies have moved overseas. Because environmental controls have such an economic tie to it, controls must have a global standard and all nations must follow it. All this deal does is guarantee China another 12 years of competitive advantages over the rest of the world.
    Have you been to China?

    They can have their zero protection manufacturing jobs.

    I like to be able to breathe the air.
    I agree that their air quality is crap. But they won't stop. The big issue is, what are we going to do when it gets so bad that that the shit starts blowing over to OUR? west coast?

    As long as they can continue to economically benefit from their emissions they'll keep doing it.

    The improvements that America and it's allies our accomplishing with emission controls doesn't make one dent to what India and China are going to do on their end to destroy it over the next 8 years and 12 years respectively.

    We like to think we accomplished something, when we actually accomplished nothing.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    edited October 2016

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.

    You'd rather go back to when rivers were catching on fire. The economy being strangled by EPA is bunch of bullshit.
    It actually isn't. EPA regulations have been another reason manufacturing companies have moved overseas. Because environmental controls have such an economic tie to it, controls must have a global standard and all nations must follow it. All this deal does is guarantee China another 12 years of competitive advantages over the rest of the world.
    Have you been to China?

    They can have their zero protection manufacturing jobs.

    I like to be able to breathe the air.
    That's exactly his point though...when those jobs were here (and other places) they didn't cause the pollution that they do in China.
    Holy shit, so many things wrong with this. Your memory of American pollution is terrible. Look up history of water, air, land, whatever, pollution in America.
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.

    You'd rather go back to when rivers were catching on fire. The economy being strangled by EPA is bunch of bullshit.
    It actually isn't. EPA regulations have been another reason manufacturing companies have moved overseas. Because environmental controls have such an economic tie to it, controls must have a global standard and all nations must follow it. All this deal does is guarantee China another 12 years of competitive advantages over the rest of the world.
    Have you been to China?

    They can have their zero protection manufacturing jobs.

    I like to be able to breathe the air.
    That's exactly his point though...when those jobs were here (and other places) they didn't cause the pollution that they do in China.
    Sark is better than Ty POTD.
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    edited October 2016
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.

    You'd rather go back to when rivers were catching on fire. The economy being strangled by EPA is bunch of bullshit.
    It actually isn't. EPA regulations have been another reason manufacturing companies have moved overseas. Because environmental controls have such an economic tie to it, controls must have a global standard and all nations must follow it. All this deal does is guarantee China another 12 years of competitive advantages over the rest of the world.
    Have you been to China?

    They can have their zero protection manufacturing jobs.

    I like to be able to breathe the air.
    That's exactly his point though...when those jobs were here (and other places) they didn't cause the pollution that they do in China.
    Holy shit, so many things wrong with this. Your memory of American pollution is terrible. Look up history of water, air, land, whatever, pollution in America.
    To copy you....HOLY SHIT you are a moron. Did all the manufacturing jobs move to China in the 1960s?

    Effin moron with a speed limit IQ...the only pollution you should have been worried about it the heavy metal pollution of your mom's drinking water 9 months before you were born...
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.

    You'd rather go back to when rivers were catching on fire. The economy being strangled by EPA is bunch of bullshit.
    It actually isn't. EPA regulations have been another reason manufacturing companies have moved overseas. Because environmental controls have such an economic tie to it, controls must have a global standard and all nations must follow it. All this deal does is guarantee China another 12 years of competitive advantages over the rest of the world.
    Have you been to China?

    They can have their zero protection manufacturing jobs.

    I like to be able to breathe the air.
    That's exactly his point though...when those jobs were here (and other places) they didn't cause the pollution that they do in China.
    Holy shit, so many things wrong with this. Your memory of American pollution is terrible. Look up history of water, air, land, whatever, pollution in America.
    To copy you....HOLY SHIT you are a moron. Did all the manufacturing jobs move to China in the 1960s?

    Effin moron with a speed limit IQ...the only pollution you should have been worried about it the heavy metal pollution of your mom's drinking water 9 months before you were born...
    Did they move there in the 70s when the EPA was created? Or how about the grand time known as the 80s?
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.

    You'd rather go back to when rivers were catching on fire. The economy being strangled by EPA is bunch of bullshit.
    It actually isn't. EPA regulations have been another reason manufacturing companies have moved overseas. Because environmental controls have such an economic tie to it, controls must have a global standard and all nations must follow it. All this deal does is guarantee China another 12 years of competitive advantages over the rest of the world.
    Have you been to China?

    They can have their zero protection manufacturing jobs.

    I like to be able to breathe the air.
    That's exactly his point though...when those jobs were here (and other places) they didn't cause the pollution that they do in China.
    Holy shit, so many things wrong with this. Your memory of American pollution is terrible. Look up history of water, air, land, whatever, pollution in America.
    To copy you....HOLY SHIT you are a moron. Did all the manufacturing jobs move to China in the 1960s?

    Effin moron with a speed limit IQ...the only pollution you should have been worried about it the heavy metal pollution of your mom's drinking water 9 months before you were born...
    Did they move there in the 70s when the EPA was created? Or how about the grand time known as the 80s?
    Like I said...you are a moron with a speed limit IQ...

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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.

    You'd rather go back to when rivers were catching on fire. The economy being strangled by EPA is bunch of bullshit.
    It actually isn't. EPA regulations have been another reason manufacturing companies have moved overseas. Because environmental controls have such an economic tie to it, controls must have a global standard and all nations must follow it. All this deal does is guarantee China another 12 years of competitive advantages over the rest of the world.
    Have you been to China?

    They can have their zero protection manufacturing jobs.

    I like to be able to breathe the air.
    That's exactly his point though...when those jobs were here (and other places) they didn't cause the pollution that they do in China.
    Holy shit, so many things wrong with this. Your memory of American pollution is terrible. Look up history of water, air, land, whatever, pollution in America.
    To copy you....HOLY SHIT you are a moron. Did all the manufacturing jobs move to China in the 1960s?

    Effin moron with a speed limit IQ...the only pollution you should have been worried about it the heavy metal pollution of your mom's drinking water 9 months before you were born...
    Did they move there in the 70s when the EPA was created? Or how about the grand time known as the 80s?
    Like I said...you are a moron with a speed limit IQ...

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    This chart is proving my point. But I'd like to see it extended to 2015.
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    d2dd2d Member Posts: 3,109
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    edited October 2016

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sure we strangle our economy while others do nothing. Good plan.

    You'd rather go back to when rivers were catching on fire. The economy being strangled by EPA is bunch of bullshit.
    It actually isn't. EPA regulations have been another reason manufacturing companies have moved overseas. Because environmental controls have such an economic tie to it, controls must have a global standard and all nations must follow it. All this deal does is guarantee China another 12 years of competitive advantages over the rest of the world.
    Have you been to China?

    They can have their zero protection manufacturing jobs.

    I like to be able to breathe the air.
    That's exactly his point though...when those jobs were here (and other places) they didn't cause the pollution that they do in China.
    Holy shit, so many things wrong with this. Your memory of American pollution is terrible. Look up history of water, air, land, whatever, pollution in America.
    To copy you....HOLY SHIT you are a moron. Did all the manufacturing jobs move to China in the 1960s?

    Effin moron with a speed limit IQ...the only pollution you should have been worried about it the heavy metal pollution of your mom's drinking water 9 months before you were born...
    Did they move there in the 70s when the EPA was created? Or how about the grand time known as the 80s?
    Like I said...you are a moron with a speed limit IQ...

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    When I need facts I ALWAYS got to the United Nations. That's what I like to do. They ALWAYS look out for the best interests of the United States.
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