Mad Son's Ramblings: Washington on the right track but not there yet

Hardcore_Husky

Mad Son's Ramblings: Washington on the right track but not there yet

Mad Son is back to break down what was and what's still to come.

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RaceBannon

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doogsinparadise

Pre snap movement is fine if you're using it to dictate defensive play calls. I still see the biggest play calling problem being a lack of identity and getting out of rhythm.

TurdBomber

The one theme that this offense has is that it is trying to confuse the other team – no identity, lots of "trick"plays, pre-snap movement before nearly every play, and calling the unexpected. Sure, you may expect Washington to run a dive to pick up one yard, but won't a delayed counter confuse you? Apparently not if you're Arizona, or anyone else in the country. I get taking advantage of mismatches and holes in the defense can be advantageous, but this clearly isn't working. Empirically the misdirection does not create enough opportunities for the drives it kills. This team can only score on explosive plays because the offense can not create any sustained drives. This is the major sticking point that will continue to hold this team back.

THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, FUCKING THIS.

doogsinparadise

Ohio State uses pre snap movement to destroy Oregon in the NCG. Very problematic line of reasoning that's found purchase here.

doogsinparadise

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WilburHooksHands

Hardcore_Husky said:

Mad Son's Ramblings: Washington on the right track but not there yet

Mad Son is back to break down what was and what's still to come.

Read the full story here

YBE

Mad_Son

doogsinparadise said:

Pre snap movement is fine if you're using it to dictate defensive play calls. I still see the biggest play calling problem being a lack of identity and getting out of rhythm.

My problem with it is that *IS* the identity. It is a substitute for any real substance in the offense is the problem.

Pitchfork51

Pre snap movement is great when your dumbass offensive players are smart enough to do it and still run the play correctly. Unfortunately these are some serious dumb fucks so a lot of coaches just say fuck it.

doogsinparadise

Pre snap movement is not the problem.

doogsinparadise

The problem is going away from stuff that works just to be cute and "smarter" than the other guys.

Dawgs4ever

Our offense will never be great so long as Smith is the OC. Just so many bad calls.

priapism

It's the perfect time to play Furd, just after they have 2 physical games against USC and UCLA. They are softened by high #s of injuries.

UW needs to throw a lot early on Furd's weakened secondary to stretch the defenders out.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/stats/byteam?cat1=defense&conference=I-A_PAC12&year=2016

UW's punting is 2nd worst in the Pac, 38.5 yards/punt:
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/stats/byteam?cat1=special&cat2=Punting&conference=I-A_PAC12&year=2016

UW needs to find a 4th and 1 play that works on offense. They will find themselves in a bunch of 4th and shorts against Furd. Smiff is absolutely horrible on 4th and short.

UW is throwing the second fewest # of passes in the Pac, 26.3/game. Furd is #1 at only 20 passes/game.

UW needs to get an early lead. This will be a fast, 3 hour, low-scoring game.

TierbsHsotBoobs

Paragraphs are good.

Mad_Son

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Paragraphs are good.

Disagree

TierbsHsotBoobs

Mad_Son said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Paragraphs are good.

Disagree

OK @Tequilla

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Paragraphs are good.

Short paragraphs are even better.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

doogsinparadise said:

The problem is going away from stuff that works just to be cute and "smarter" than the other guys.

I think the issue is the slow developing run plays especially on the 4th & 1 situations. We? lined up and ran a QB sneak at one point in the game and got it. I don't know if it a 4th and 1 but it was a relatively easy pick up.

Compare that to the plays where the RB is 7 yards deep and is practically standing still by time he gets the handoff. The D knows they have to penetrate and sell out to stop the run. Smiff's play calling gives them time to get that penetration and our? drives end.

Fire_Marshall_Bill

On Sat., the play calling seemed at least OK (I was buzzed the whole game and near a really obnoxious Husky/Trump fan who came down from Auburn...). The problem was as much the execution, big plays surrendered on d, and special teams gaffes. Overall though Smith's calls haven't been great (ever).

I thought Browning did OK. He fucked up at times, but he wasn't playing scared which is the huge complaint on this board.

Hugh was actually replaced by Paul Siccoro or whatever his name was in the '84 season I think. IDK. I was in kindergarten and I can barely remember the Orange Bowl. Browning is good enough to fend off Carter-Sammy and T-Rod.

TTJ

The first three paragraphs of @Mad_Son's piece really hit the mark, IMO. Solid effort.

Regarding pre-snap motion, it's certainly fair to debate whether Smith is getting max value out of it. But motion has been a staple of Petersen's offenses for a long time; this 2010 explainer describes well how it was used effectively at BSU.

Kaepsknee

TTJ said:

The first three paragraphs of @Mad_Son's piece really hit the mark, IMO. Solid effort.

Regarding pre-snap motion, it's certainly fair to debate whether Smith is getting max value out of it. But motion has been a staple of Petersen's offenses for a long time; this 2010 explainer describes well how it was used effectively at BSU.

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