Mad Son's Ramblings: Washington on the right track but not there yet
Mad Son's Ramblings: Washington on the right track but not there yet
Mad Son is back to break down what was and what's still to come.
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Pre snap movement is fine if you're using it to dictate defensive play calls. I still see the biggest play calling problem being a lack of identity and getting out of rhythm.
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The one theme that this offense has is that it is trying to confuse the other team – no identity, lots of "trick"plays, pre-snap movement before nearly every play, and calling the unexpected. Sure, you may expect Washington to run a dive to pick up one yard, but won't a delayed counter confuse you? Apparently not if you're Arizona, or anyone else in the country. I get taking advantage of mismatches and holes in the defense can be advantageous, but this clearly isn't working. Empirically the misdirection does not create enough opportunities for the drives it kills. This team can only score on explosive plays because the offense can not create any sustained drives. This is the major sticking point that will continue to hold this team back.
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Ohio State uses pre snap movement to destroy Oregon in the NCG. Very problematic line of reasoning that's found purchase here.
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YBEHardcore_Husky said:Mad Son's Ramblings: Washington on the right track but not there yet
Mad Son is back to break down what was and what's still to come.
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My problem with it is that *IS* the identity. It is a substitute for any real substance in the offense is the problem.doogsinparadise said:Pre snap movement is fine if you're using it to dictate defensive play calls. I still see the biggest play calling problem being a lack of identity and getting out of rhythm.
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Pre snap movement is great when your dumbass offensive players are smart enough to do it and still run the play correctly. Unfortunately these are some serious dumb fucks so a lot of coaches just say fuck it.
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Pre snap movement is not the problem.
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The problem is going away from stuff that works just to be cute and "smarter" than the other guys.
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Our offense will never be great so long as Smith is the OC. Just so many bad calls.
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It's the perfect time to play Furd, just after they have 2 physical games against USC and UCLA. They are softened by high #s of injuries.
UW needs to throw a lot early on Furd's weakened secondary to stretch the defenders out.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/stats/byteam?cat1=defense&conference=I-A_PAC12&year=2016
UW's punting is 2nd worst in the Pac, 38.5 yards/punt:
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/stats/byteam?cat1=special&cat2=Punting&conference=I-A_PAC12&year=2016
UW needs to find a 4th and 1 play that works on offense. They will find themselves in a bunch of 4th and shorts against Furd. Smiff is absolutely horrible on 4th and short.
UW is throwing the second fewest # of passes in the Pac, 26.3/game. Furd is #1 at only 20 passes/game.
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Paragraphs are good.
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DisagreeTierbsHsotBoobs said:Paragraphs are good.
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OK @TequillaMad_Son said:
DisagreeTierbsHsotBoobs said:Paragraphs are good.
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Short paragraphs are even better.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Paragraphs are good.
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I think the issue is the slow developing run plays especially on the 4th & 1 situations. We? lined up and ran a QB sneak at one point in the game and got it. I don't know if it a 4th and 1 but it was a relatively easy pick up.doogsinparadise said:The problem is going away from stuff that works just to be cute and "smarter" than the other guys.
Compare that to the plays where the RB is 7 yards deep and is practically standing still by time he gets the handoff. The D knows they have to penetrate and sell out to stop the run. Smiff's play calling gives them time to get that penetration and our? drives end. -
On Sat., the play calling seemed at least OK (I was buzzed the whole game and near a really obnoxious Husky/Trump fan who came down from Auburn...). The problem was as much the execution, big plays surrendered on d, and special teams gaffes. Overall though Smith's calls haven't been great (ever).
I thought Browning did OK. He fucked up at times, but he wasn't playing scared which is the huge complaint on this board.
Hugh was actually replaced by Paul Siccoro or whatever his name was in the '84 season I think. IDK. I was in kindergarten and I can barely remember the Orange Bowl. Browning is good enough to fend off Carter-Sammy and T-Rod. -
The first three paragraphs of @Mad_Son's piece really hit the mark, IMO. Solid effort.
Regarding pre-snap motion, it's certainly fair to debate whether Smith is getting max value out of it. But motion has been a staple of Petersen's offenses for a long time; this 2010 explainer describes well how it was used effectively at BSU. -
Don't feed the Doogs.TTJ said:The first three paragraphs of @Mad_Son's piece really hit the mark, IMO. Solid effort.
Regarding pre-snap motion, it's certainly fair to debate whether Smith is getting max value out of it. But motion has been a staple of Petersen's offenses for a long time; this 2010 explainer describes well how it was used effectively at BSU. -
The counters are easy to pick on ... but they are low hanging fruit that masks the real reason short yardage plays fail which is due to lack of execution.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
I think the issue is the slow developing run plays especially on the 4th & 1 situations. We? lined up and ran a QB sneak at one point in the game and got it. I don't know if it a 4th and 1 but it was a relatively easy pick up.doogsinparadise said:The problem is going away from stuff that works just to be cute and "smarter" than the other guys.
In particular, if you look at the counter on the 4th and 1 in the 2nd half there was 1) interior pressure that moved Eldrenkamp off of his route and late to his block point, 2) Sample letting the OLB on the line in untouched and focused on the secondary defender, and 3) the OLB that came in untouched blew up both Eldrenkamp/Daniels leaving Gaskin without an escort into the hole. If the play was blocked well it not only picks up the 1st down rather easily, but likely picks up the TD.
For those that want to just run the ball up the middle, that's exactly what we did after Coleman's OT run and immediately lost 3 yards due to interior penetration.
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McCaffrey is McCaffrey but IMHO, Stanford's OL isn't as good as it was last year.
I don't think Burns will do well in a night game @ Husky Stadium and his numbers against lesser secondaries aren't very good. I see him averaging less than 6 yards per attempt and throwing 2 INTs. UW will probably blitz more than they have so far this season but I've been pleased with how Mathis, Qualls, and Vea have looked as pass-rushers. We'll probably see Jaylen Johnson get some snaps which will help the rotation.
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Rather easilyHFNY said:McCaffrey is McCaffrey but IMHO, Stanford's OL isn't as good as it was last year.
I don't think Burns will do well in a night game @ Husky Stadium and his numbers against lesser secondaries aren't very good. I see him averaging less than 6 yards per attempt and throwing 2 INTs. UW will probably blitz more than they have so far this season but I've been pleased with how Mathis, Qualls, and Vea have looked as pass-rushers. We'll probably see Jaylen Johnson get some snaps which will help the rotation.
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Rather easily would be 34-17, so very bold of you.Pitchfork51 said:
Rather easilyHFNY said:McCaffrey is McCaffrey but IMHO, Stanford's OL isn't as good as it was last year.
I don't think Burns will do well in a night game @ Husky Stadium and his numbers against lesser secondaries aren't very good. I see him averaging less than 6 yards per attempt and throwing 2 INTs. UW will probably blitz more than they have so far this season but I've been pleased with how Mathis, Qualls, and Vea have looked as pass-rushers. We'll probably see Jaylen Johnson get some snaps which will help the rotation.
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If we score it will be a miracle.
