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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,470 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Stupid is being a fucking sheep who lets the government force them to buy a pile of shit policy from a private insurance company

    Yeah, well when you get sick just deal with it. I don't want My taxes paying for your diabetes meds or kidney dialysis.

    Fair is fair.
    Why do you support Obamacare then? You don't get to choose.
    Why do you support the system before Obamacare? You didn't get to choose then either.
    I got to choose my insurance you fucking moron. At a good price for what I wanted. I don't care about supporting those that can't afford health CARE. It's far cheaper to just write them a check than this fucked up Obamacare that I am helping to crash by not partaking in.

    I don't want people to die in the street. We'll take care of them in my administration

    If you had health insurance before, you still took care of those who couldn't afford care.

    HTH

    BTW, you can still choose your insurance plan and there's actually more options now. It's amazing how clueless you are.
    I don't have a problem supporting others. Your fellow lib doucheballbag has the issue with that

    There are not better options. Stop being such a shill for a failed and utterly stupid law
    The law is fucked up, don't get me wrong. You are just placing your anger in the wrong area. You can't argue that increased transparency with the exchanges is a bad thing.
    I'm not angry

    The law made things worse and it is getting repealed

    Case closed
  • topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
    dflea said:

    topdawgnc said:

    dflea said:

    Toppy pays more taxes than any Democrat.

    Oh wait, no he doesn't, he just shoots off his cake hole like he does.

    Shut your cunt, toppy. Nobody believes you're paying anyone's way except you.

    You must not know how to read.

    Not uncommon for your ilk.
    What is my ilk you little bitch?

    I've had a job since I was 12. I've never had any government assistance of any kind my whole life.

    Still, my parents paid for my college, and I've never missed a meal I didnt choose to, so I don;t pretend to be gritty and tuff like those that have had a rougher life than I've had. But I bet I'm tuff enough to shut your dumb ass up.
    You sound angry.

    And a lot like you care.

    Maybe you should vote Trump.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,533 Founders Club

    You're a sheep who fucks sheep

    That escalated quickly.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Stupid is being a fucking sheep who lets the government force them to buy a pile of shit policy from a private insurance company

    Yeah, well when you get sick just deal with it. I don't want My taxes paying for your diabetes meds or kidney dialysis.

    Fair is fair.
    Why do you support Obamacare then? You don't get to choose.
    Why do you support the system before Obamacare? You didn't get to choose then either.
    I got to choose my insurance you fucking moron. At a good price for what I wanted. I don't care about supporting those that can't afford health CARE. It's far cheaper to just write them a check than this fucked up Obamacare that I am helping to crash by not partaking in.

    I don't want people to die in the street. We'll take care of them in my administration

    If you had health insurance before, you still took care of those who couldn't afford care.

    HTH

    BTW, you can still choose your insurance plan and there's actually more options now. It's amazing how clueless you are.
    I don't have a problem supporting others. Your fellow lib doucheballbag has the issue with that

    There are not better options. Stop being such a shill for a failed and utterly stupid law
    The law is fucked up, don't get me wrong. You are just placing your anger in the wrong area. You can't argue that increased transparency with the exchanges is a bad thing.
    I'm not angry

    The law made things worse and it is getting repealed

    Case closed
    How has the law made things worse? Our economy has gotten better (the exact opposite of the cratering your news source predicted). And health care costs have slowed their massive gains.

    And it won't get repealed.

    There's thing to fix with the law, but it's a start at fixing the real issues.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,470 Founders Club
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,533 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Stupid is being a fucking sheep who lets the government force them to buy a pile of shit policy from a private insurance company

    Yeah, well when you get sick just deal with it. I don't want My taxes paying for your diabetes meds or kidney dialysis.

    Fair is fair.
    Why do you support Obamacare then? You don't get to choose.
    Why do you support the system before Obamacare? You didn't get to choose then either.
    I got to choose my insurance you fucking moron. At a good price for what I wanted. I don't care about supporting those that can't afford health CARE. It's far cheaper to just write them a check than this fucked up Obamacare that I am helping to crash by not partaking in.

    I don't want people to die in the street. We'll take care of them in my administration

    If you had health insurance before, you still took care of those who couldn't afford care.

    HTH

    BTW, you can still choose your insurance plan and there's actually more options now. It's amazing how clueless you are.
    I don't have a problem supporting others. Your fellow lib doucheballbag has the issue with that

    There are not better options. Stop being such a shill for a failed and utterly stupid law
    The law is fucked up, don't get me wrong. You are just placing your anger in the wrong area. You can't argue that increased transparency with the exchanges is a bad thing.
    I'm not angry

    The law made things worse and it is getting repealed

    Case closed
    How has the law made things worse? Our economy has gotten better (the exact opposite of the cratering your news source predicted). And health care costs have slowed their massive gains.

    And it won't get repealed.

    There's thing to fix with the law, but it's a start at fixing the real issues.
    I'm not 100 percent sure, but it feels like nothing you said in this post is actually correct.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Stupid is being a fucking sheep who lets the government force them to buy a pile of shit policy from a private insurance company

    Yeah, well when you get sick just deal with it. I don't want My taxes paying for your diabetes meds or kidney dialysis.

    Fair is fair.
    Why do you support Obamacare then? You don't get to choose.
    Why do you support the system before Obamacare? You didn't get to choose then either.
    I got to choose my insurance you fucking moron. At a good price for what I wanted. I don't care about supporting those that can't afford health CARE. It's far cheaper to just write them a check than this fucked up Obamacare that I am helping to crash by not partaking in.

    I don't want people to die in the street. We'll take care of them in my administration

    If you had health insurance before, you still took care of those who couldn't afford care.

    HTH

    BTW, you can still choose your insurance plan and there's actually more options now. It's amazing how clueless you are.
    I don't have a problem supporting others. Your fellow lib doucheballbag has the issue with that

    There are not better options. Stop being such a shill for a failed and utterly stupid law
    The law is fucked up, don't get me wrong. You are just placing your anger in the wrong area. You can't argue that increased transparency with the exchanges is a bad thing.
    I'm not angry

    The law made things worse and it is getting repealed

    Case closed
    How has the law made things worse? Our economy has gotten better (the exact opposite of the cratering your news source predicted). And health care costs have slowed their massive gains.

    And it won't get repealed.

    There's thing to fix with the law, but it's a start at fixing the real issues.
    I'm not 100 percent sure, but it feels like nothing you said in this post is actually correct.
    Lol except the fact the economy has gotten better. You're news source said it would crater and it didn't. The bill needs a lot of fixing. You know, the rest of my post was wrong.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,533 Founders Club
    I'm going to need to see evidence that health care costs have slowed their massive gains. Not even sure what that sentence means. Does that mean costs rose tremendously under Obamacare, but are now finally slowing? Or does it mean that costs are retreating since Obamacare? Or something else? Please enlighten.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Swaye said:

    I'm going to need to see evidence that health care costs have slowed their massive gains. Not even sure what that sentence means. Does that mean costs rose tremendously under Obamacare, but are now finally slowing? Or does it mean that costs are retreating since Obamacare? Or something else? Please enlighten.

    It means health care costs were growing at 8-10% a year or whatever. And now they are growing at 3-5% or whatever. My personal insurance stayed the same 2 years ago (my firm shopped insurance and changed after the current provider said 5% increase). Then last year it went up 3%.
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Mad_Son said:

    There should be credits for being smart with your money i.e. extra retirement investing (Roth IRA contributions ), having a 5 figure liquid savings account, paying extra principal on your house, etc. . Anything that makes it less likely that the government will have to take care of you financially somewhere down the road. Reward people for being smart with their money rather than just for having kids.

    Holy crap I would love to pay down the principal on my mortgage and have that count account my taxes. At least the mortgage interest counts on some level...
    That would have very harmful economic repercussions. You are now incentivizing taking on debt for those who may not need to. Why pay for a house with cash when you can take out a 20 year mortgage and have it count against future taxable income?
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,242
    topdawgnc said:

    dflea said:

    topdawgnc said:

    dflea said:

    Toppy pays more taxes than any Democrat.

    Oh wait, no he doesn't, he just shoots off his cake hole like he does.

    Shut your cunt, toppy. Nobody believes you're paying anyone's way except you.

    You must not know how to read.

    Not uncommon for your ilk.
    What is my ilk you little bitch?

    I've had a job since I was 12. I've never had any government assistance of any kind my whole life.

    Still, my parents paid for my college, and I've never missed a meal I didnt choose to, so I don;t pretend to be gritty and tuff like those that have had a rougher life than I've had. But I bet I'm tuff enough to shut your dumb ass up.
    You sound angry.

    And a lot like you care.

    Maybe you should vote Trump.
    Of course I care about taxes you fuckhead - because I pay them

    And yeah - it pisses me off when some shitbird like you thinks you know what my ilk is. You have a habit of pretending you know shit you don't.

    I might vote for Trump if he ever grows a pair and says HOW he'll make America great instead of just paying lip service.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,505

    dflea said:

    topdawgnc said:

    dflea said:

    topdawgnc said:

    dflea said:

    Toppy pays more taxes than any Democrat.

    Oh wait, no he doesn't, he just shoots off his cake hole like he does.

    Shut your cunt, toppy. Nobody believes you're paying anyone's way except you.

    You must not know how to read.

    Not uncommon for your ilk.
    What is my ilk you little bitch?

    I've had a job since I was 12. I've never had any government assistance of any kind my whole life.

    Still, my parents paid for my college, and I've never missed a meal I didnt choose to, so I don;t pretend to be gritty and tuff like those that have had a rougher life than I've had. But I bet I'm tuff enough to shut your dumb ass up.
    You sound angry.

    And a lot like you care.

    Maybe you should vote Trump.
    Of course I care about taxes you fuckhead - because I pay them

    And yeah - it pisses me off when some shitbird like you thinks you know what my ilk is. You have a habit of pretending you know shit you don't.

    I might vote for Trump if he ever grows a pair and says HOW he'll make America great instead of just paying lip service.
    So I'm getting high Saturday and turn on the SC victory speech by the Donald and he introduces his wife and she starts to speak

    I'm at that point where the weed is just kicking in and you can see through things and I'm thinking to myself - am I really watching a serious contender for the Presidency introduce his third trophy wife who is half his age and pretty hot so she can speak to the nation?

    Why yes I am. Cool.

    I also had a flash that he could in fact be our Hitler but you know man, who the fuck cares?
    Donald has the cool factor this country has been missing for years.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,233 Founders Club
    edited February 2016

    dflea said:

    topdawgnc said:

    dflea said:

    topdawgnc said:

    dflea said:

    Toppy pays more taxes than any Democrat.

    Oh wait, no he doesn't, he just shoots off his cake hole like he does.

    Shut your cunt, toppy. Nobody believes you're paying anyone's way except you.

    You must not know how to read.

    Not uncommon for your ilk.
    What is my ilk you little bitch?

    I've had a job since I was 12. I've never had any government assistance of any kind my whole life.

    Still, my parents paid for my college, and I've never missed a meal I didnt choose to, so I don;t pretend to be gritty and tuff like those that have had a rougher life than I've had. But I bet I'm tuff enough to shut your dumb ass up.
    You sound angry.

    And a lot like you care.

    Maybe you should vote Trump.
    Of course I care about taxes you fuckhead - because I pay them

    And yeah - it pisses me off when some shitbird like you thinks you know what my ilk is. You have a habit of pretending you know shit you don't.

    I might vote for Trump if he ever grows a pair and says HOW he'll make America great instead of just paying lip service.
    So I'm getting high Saturday and turn on the SC victory speech by the Donald and he introduces his wife and she starts to speak

    I'm at that point where the weed is just kicking in and you can see through things and I'm thinking to myself - am I really watching a serious contender for the Presidency introduce his third trophy wife who is half his age and pretty hot so she can speak to the nation?

    Why yes I am. Cool.

    I also had a flash that he could in fact be our Hitler but you know man, who the fuck cares?
    Fucking this.

    We are finishing our Mao so I'm not seeing how this is much of a change for the worse.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,505
    pawz said:

    dflea said:

    topdawgnc said:

    dflea said:

    topdawgnc said:

    dflea said:

    Toppy pays more taxes than any Democrat.

    Oh wait, no he doesn't, he just shoots off his cake hole like he does.

    Shut your cunt, toppy. Nobody believes you're paying anyone's way except you.

    You must not know how to read.

    Not uncommon for your ilk.
    What is my ilk you little bitch?

    I've had a job since I was 12. I've never had any government assistance of any kind my whole life.

    Still, my parents paid for my college, and I've never missed a meal I didnt choose to, so I don;t pretend to be gritty and tuff like those that have had a rougher life than I've had. But I bet I'm tuff enough to shut your dumb ass up.
    You sound angry.

    And a lot like you care.

    Maybe you should vote Trump.
    Of course I care about taxes you fuckhead - because I pay them

    And yeah - it pisses me off when some shitbird like you thinks you know what my ilk is. You have a habit of pretending you know shit you don't.

    I might vote for Trump if he ever grows a pair and says HOW he'll make America great instead of just paying lip service.
    So I'm getting high Saturday and turn on the SC victory speech by the Donald and he introduces his wife and she starts to speak

    I'm at that point where the weed is just kicking in and you can see through things and I'm thinking to myself - am I really watching a serious contender for the Presidency introduce his third trophy wife who is half his age and pretty hot so she can speak to the nation?

    Why yes I am. Cool.

    I also had a flash that he could in fact be our Hitler but you know man, who the fuck cares?
    Fucking this.

    We just had our Mao so I'm not seeing how this is much of a change for the worse.
    Let's put it this way: Honda would vote for Hitler if he was on the Democratic ticket.
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Sweet Now we know that both college doog and apag either voted for Romney or wrote their own name in last Prez election.


    Or Sweet abundance.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886
    Mad_Son said:

    salemcoog said:

    Corporations still need to be taxed. The though that:

    A) You keep the economy stronger by charging low to no income taxes is fucktarded as the lions share or the money goes to the richest of the rich. Bonuses for CEOS' and higher dividend for fatcat shareholders. I'm all for the ones who made the risk to get paid off but they need to pay their taxes to.

    B) if you back off on Corporate taxes, they'll hire more people at higher wages and the income taxes from such employees more than offsets the lost tax revenue form the corporation. This is the most fucktarded stance I hear as that the Corporation won't hire more people at higher paying jobs. they simply off load more work load to current employess. Or hire for a couple dimes on the dollar off-shore.

    It's a delicate balance, Corporations need to pay taxes but not a much higher amount than now as they will pull up stakes and leave the Country if taxed too high.

    Like I understand the practical purpose of taxing corporations but why does it make sense in an ideal world?
    Because the rules, as they currently are, do not motivate a corporation to hire here Stateside. One sided Trade agreements and little to no penalty for off-shoring jobs makes the old argument of let the Corporations growth of hiring employees pay the taxes null and void IMO. If you don't tax them, you won't get shit out of them in some instances.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,394 Standard Supporter

    pawz said:

    dflea said:

    topdawgnc said:

    dflea said:

    topdawgnc said:

    dflea said:

    Toppy pays more taxes than any Democrat.

    Oh wait, no he doesn't, he just shoots off his cake hole like he does.

    Shut your cunt, toppy. Nobody believes you're paying anyone's way except you.

    You must not know how to read.

    Not uncommon for your ilk.
    What is my ilk you little bitch?

    I've had a job since I was 12. I've never had any government assistance of any kind my whole life.

    Still, my parents paid for my college, and I've never missed a meal I didnt choose to, so I don;t pretend to be gritty and tuff like those that have had a rougher life than I've had. But I bet I'm tuff enough to shut your dumb ass up.
    You sound angry.

    And a lot like you care.

    Maybe you should vote Trump.
    Of course I care about taxes you fuckhead - because I pay them

    And yeah - it pisses me off when some shitbird like you thinks you know what my ilk is. You have a habit of pretending you know shit you don't.

    I might vote for Trump if he ever grows a pair and says HOW he'll make America great instead of just paying lip service.
    So I'm getting high Saturday and turn on the SC victory speech by the Donald and he introduces his wife and she starts to speak

    I'm at that point where the weed is just kicking in and you can see through things and I'm thinking to myself - am I really watching a serious contender for the Presidency introduce his third trophy wife who is half his age and pretty hot so she can speak to the nation?

    Why yes I am. Cool.

    I also had a flash that he could in fact be our Hitler but you know man, who the fuck cares?
    Fucking this.

    We just had our Mao so I'm not seeing how this is much of a change for the worse.
    Let's put it this way: Honda would vote for Hitler if he was on the Democratic ticket.
    Hey a democratic socialist? IIRC Hitler was a democratic socialist. How'd that all work out?
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,242

    dflea said:

    topdawgnc said:

    dflea said:

    topdawgnc said:

    dflea said:

    Toppy pays more taxes than any Democrat.

    Oh wait, no he doesn't, he just shoots off his cake hole like he does.

    Shut your cunt, toppy. Nobody believes you're paying anyone's way except you.

    You must not know how to read.

    Not uncommon for your ilk.
    What is my ilk you little bitch?

    I've had a job since I was 12. I've never had any government assistance of any kind my whole life.

    Still, my parents paid for my college, and I've never missed a meal I didnt choose to, so I don;t pretend to be gritty and tuff like those that have had a rougher life than I've had. But I bet I'm tuff enough to shut your dumb ass up.
    You sound angry.

    And a lot like you care.

    Maybe you should vote Trump.
    Of course I care about taxes you fuckhead - because I pay them

    And yeah - it pisses me off when some shitbird like you thinks you know what my ilk is. You have a habit of pretending you know shit you don't.

    I might vote for Trump if he ever grows a pair and says HOW he'll make America great instead of just paying lip service.
    So I'm getting high Saturday and turn on the SC victory speech by the Donald and he introduces his wife and she starts to speak

    I'm at that point where the weed is just kicking in and you can see through things and I'm thinking to myself - am I really watching a serious contender for the Presidency introduce his third trophy wife who is half his age and pretty hot so she can speak to the nation?

    Why yes I am. Cool.

    I also had a flash that he could in fact be our Hitler but you know man, who the fuck cares?
    If you'd just sack up and run, all my fucking indecision would be history. You could beat any of these a holes rather easily.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,511 Founders Club
    I'm writing "Race Bannon" on my ballot this year. Deez nuts for veep.
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