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Sanders' Single-Payer Sacrifice: 11.6 Million Jobs

HFNY
HFNY Member Posts: 5,402
edited February 2016 in Tug Tavern
The devil is in the details. Since Bern has never worked in the private sector or run his own business, it makes total sense that he thinks businesses can handle greater tax increases, far beyond what Obama did:

realclearpolicy.com/blog/2016/02/11/single-payer_sacrifice_116_million_jobs_1551.html

And per Wikipedia, while he was in college:

"While at the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People's Socialist League, the youth affiliate of the Socialist Party of America, and was active in the Civil Rights Movement as a student organizer for the Congress of Racial Equality and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee."
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    HFNY said:

    The devil is in the details. Since Bern has never worked in the private sector or run his own business, it makes total sense that he thinks businesses can handle greater tax increases, far beyond what Obama did:

    realclearpolicy.com/blog/2016/02/11/single-payer_sacrifice_116_million_jobs_1551.html

    And per Wikipedia, while he was in college:

    "While at the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People's Socialist League, the youth affiliate of the Democratic Socialist Party of America, and was active in the Civil Rights Movement as a student organizer for the Congress of Racial Equality and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee."

    At least that's what I'm hearing. Is wiki (aka hondo's news source) lying to him?
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Sounds like Sanders plan is a demotivator for one to work:

    A) Full-time

    B) Hard

    C) For some, At all.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    I don't know why you guys are upset about everything being free. Such a simple solution. Don't know why we didn't think of it earlier.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    PurpleJ said:

    I don't know why you guys are upset about everything being free. Such a simple solution. Don't know why we didn't think of it earlier.

    We did. HTH.
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  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    Higher taxes or insurance premiums. Real question is which is more of a burden. Considering the US spends roughly twice as much per capita on healthcare as every other western country, I'm guessing the status quo isn't the answer.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,183 Founders Club
    Long story but when I walked away from my old job a few years ago I walked away from insurance. Haven't bought it since. That used to be my choice, maybe will be again someday. Never have a choice on taxes, Have to pay them.

    Now insurance is monitored by the IRS and you pay for not having it. Agree that the status quo sucks.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    RaceBannon said:

    Long story but when I walked away from my old job a few years ago I walked away from insurance. Haven't bought it since. That used to be my choice, maybe will be again someday. Never have a choice on taxes, Have to pay them.

    Now insurance is monitored by the IRS and you pay for not having it. Agree that the status quo sucks.

    So you are saying that when you die of aids, you are fine with me not having the choice to pay for your medicine?
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  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Long story but when I walked away from my old job a few years ago I walked away from insurance. Haven't bought it since. That used to be my choice, maybe will be again someday. Never have a choice on taxes, Have to pay them.

    Now insurance is monitored by the IRS and you pay for not having it. Agree that the status quo sucks.

    So you are saying that when you die of aids, you are fine with me not having the choice to pay for your medicine?
    He'll to the honorable thing and decline treatment for his full-blown aids.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    And I found an economist that said Bernie will pretty much give us the best economy we've ever seen. Big whoop.
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  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    RaceBannon said:

    Long story but when I walked away from my old job a few years ago I walked away from insurance. Haven't bought it since. That used to be my choice, maybe will be again someday. Never have a choice on taxes, Have to pay them.

    Now insurance is monitored by the IRS and you pay for not having it. Agree that the status quo sucks.

    When your fat ass needs that double bypass surgery hopefully you'll pay for it yourself.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,183 Founders Club
    I can feel the liberal compassion from here folks. What's the difference if I sign up for free healthcare? At least this way you only have to pay if I need it.

    Next you'll tell me what I can smoke or eat
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  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    RaceBannon said:

    I can feel the liberal compassion from here folks. What's the difference if I sign up for free healthcare? At least this way you only have to pay if I need it.

    Next you'll tell me what I can smoke or eat

    Eat a dick
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,183 Founders Club
    BallSacked said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I can feel the liberal compassion from here folks. What's the difference if I sign up for free healthcare? At least this way you only have to pay if I need it.

    Next you'll tell me what I can smoke or eat

    Eat a dick
    OK!
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    RaceBannon said:

    I can feel the liberal compassion from here folks. What's the difference if I sign up for free healthcare? At least this way you only have to pay if I need it.

    Next you'll tell me what I can smoke or eat

    You are forced to pay taxes on cigarettes if you smoke.

    HTH
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,183 Founders Club
    I don't smoke tobacco

    HTH
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  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    RaceBannon said:

    I can feel the liberal compassion from here folks. What's the difference if I sign up for free healthcare? At least this way you only have to pay if I need it.

    Next you'll tell me what I can smoke or eat

    There's a bit of overhead in defaulting on medical bills and entering bankruptcy.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    RaceBannon said:

    I don't smoke tobacco

    HTH

    I'm sure @Swaye taxes you on his peyote.
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    RaceBannon said:

    I can feel the liberal compassion from here folks. What's the difference if I sign up for free healthcare? At least this way you only have to pay if I need it.

    Next you'll tell me what I can smoke or eat

    You get 0 liberal compassion when you are old, rich, and white.

    HTH
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassionate_conservatismconservatism

    Compassionate conservatism is a political philosophy that stresses using traditionally conservative techniques and concepts in order to improve the general welfare of society. The term itself is often credited to U.S. historian and politician Doug Wead, who used it as the title of a speech in 1979, although its origins lie in paternalism.[1] This label and philosophy has been espoused by U.S. Republican and Democratic politicians since then though in recent times it has been strongly associated with former U.S. President George W. Bush, who commonly used the term to describe his personal views.[1] This philosophy has also been espoused in the United Kingdom by British Prime Minister David Cameron.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    More people should smoke and do drugs. We can keep healthcare costs down by ending any form of subsidized health coverage, while eliminating all sin taxes and legalizing all drugs.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    allpurpleallgold said:

    And I found an economist contributor to a left leaning rag mag that said Bernie will pretty much give us the best economy we've ever seen. Big whoop.

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