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Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?
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Burn. Nice contribution as always.pawz said:
I like to be the 5th vote that buries a poast, that's what I like to do.2001400ex said:I think it's more that as countries become more wealthy, they try to reduce poverty. It's a natural progression of society. Similar to women's rights, as society becomes more educated, women gain more prominence.
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What in the fuck is wrong with you?OZONE said:
Similar to that yes, but applied more broadly (as I mentioned in my lumber example), and the oil companies would be charged higher rents and their CEOs would be imprisoned if they spilled any oil. And lots of taxes.PurpleThrobber said:
You mean like how private enterprise mines and oil wells are on BLM and USFS properties and pay royalties to the government for the riches they extract?OZONE said:
The markets are free, but more of the means of production, such as land, are owned by the society. Individuals or companies can rent it as part of their business plan.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Free market socialism? What the fuck is that?OZONE said:"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"
Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.
For example, instead of Weyerhaeuser owning millions of acres of land, the land would be owned by the people, and Weyerhaeuser would pay to harvest trees from it.
Gets tricker when you are talking about intellectual capital (rather than land), and of course the various types of capital in between. Progressive economists have a model for it. Probably shorter periods for copyrights and patents.
Of course, a healthy tax structure is in place.
It's like you think economic development is a bottomless reserve to rape and pillage for your masterbatory love affair with the government. If you think its such a grand idea, why don't you voluntarily send the government 90% of your income. Clearly you think they will do better with your money than you will.
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I guess Obama should go to prison for the EPA spill. He's the CEO
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Is this the case where an EPA tech made a mistake while the EPA was trying to clean up a pool of mine runoff that was abandoned by a profiteering miner that had left behind a pool of heavy metal poison and walked away -- washing their hands of responsibility? ... and leaving the people/gov't to clean it up?RaceBannon said:I guess Obama should go to prison for the EPA spill. He's the CEO
If this is the case yo are referring to... I'd say the original mine owner should go to prison before anybody in the gov't.
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See, some random billionaire agrees with me:
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/12/billionaire-says-ai-could-put-workers-out-to-pasture.html"When we first had the internal combustion engine — the horseless carriages, the car was called — look at all the horses they just put out to pasture," he said, making an ominous comparison to the present-day advances in automation. "We are going to be destroying jobs at a record clip."
See, now he says it like it's a bad thing and I for one will embrace our new robot overlords. That said, society will obviously have to evolve and change because quite simply, it will have no choice.
Tech is changing the world, and rapidly. -
Actually, I think that gov't services should be paid for as they are provided, and that takes taxes.pawz said:
What in the fuck is wrong with you?OZONE said:
Similar to that yes, but applied more broadly (as I mentioned in my lumber example), and the oil companies would be charged higher rents and their CEOs would be imprisoned if they spilled any oil. And lots of taxes.PurpleThrobber said:
You mean like how private enterprise mines and oil wells are on BLM and USFS properties and pay royalties to the government for the riches they extract?OZONE said:
The markets are free, but more of the means of production, such as land, are owned by the society. Individuals or companies can rent it as part of their business plan.WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
Free market socialism? What the fuck is that?OZONE said:"Is Socialism Inevitable? Is it Humanity's destiny?"
Not pure socialism, no; it has the same flaws as pure capitalism. But some kind of free market socialism, or democratic socialism, yes I think it is where we are headed, but it will be a couple of generations away still.
For example, instead of Weyerhaeuser owning millions of acres of land, the land would be owned by the people, and Weyerhaeuser would pay to harvest trees from it.
Gets tricker when you are talking about intellectual capital (rather than land), and of course the various types of capital in between. Progressive economists have a model for it. Probably shorter periods for copyrights and patents.
Of course, a healthy tax structure is in place.
It's like you think economic development is a bottomless reserve to rape and pillage for your masterbatory love affair with the government. If you think its such a grand idea, why don't you voluntarily send the government 90% of your income. Clearly you think they will do better with your money than you will.
FFS
The alternative is what Reagan and Bush 2 did, which is borrow and spend. -
Well, if we are being fair Obama has double the debt of the previous presidents (all of them) combined. Just sayin.
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I have yet to see anything in this thread to convince me that hot Swedish socialistic boobs aren't the way to go.
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God I love me some Scandinavian tittays. Unfortunately for them, because of their very open and liberal societies they are now under siege by muslims and are now the rape and gun crime capitals of Western/Northern Europe.
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They are awesome, aren't they. My inner Viking is rumbling. Let's go fuck up some rapists.PurpleReign said:God I love me some Scandinavian tittays. Unfortunately for them, because of their very open and liberal societies they are now under siege by muslims and are now the rape and gun crime capitals of Western/Northern Europe.
One in five Swedish girls is sexually assaulted now.
