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Gargle away Honda. Glacier Bay started its retreat in 1750.
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It is a historical fact that the glacier in Glacier Bay began its retreat around 1750. By the time Capt. George Vancouver arrived there in 1794 the glacier still filled most of the bay but had already retreated some miles.wsj.com/articles/obamas-half-baked-alaska-1441321015
When John Muir, founder of the Sierra Club, visited in 1879, he found that the glacier had retreated more than 30 miles from the mouth of the bay, according to the National Park Service, and by 1900 Glacier Bay was mostly ice-free.
All of this happened long before human emissions of greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide, could have had any impact.
In the oral tradition of the Huna Tlingit people, it is said that the glacier has advanced and retreated a number of times during their occupation of the area. Each time the glacier advanced they would move to the village of Hoonah in Icy Strait outside Glacier Bay. When the glacier retreated, many of them would move back into the bay. These multiple migrations were certainly caused by climate change, but it had nothing to do with human activity.
The fashionable tendency to blame every change in climate and every extreme-weather event on human emissions is doing a grave disservice to the scientific tradition. We know that the climate has been changing for millions of years due to a multitude of perfectly natural factors. There is no reason to believe that those factors have suddenly disappeared and now humans are the all-powerful shapers of global climate destiny. Yet this entirely unproven hypothesis of catastrophe is compelling to those who would control our beliefs.
Politicians want us to believe they are saving us from ruin; religious leaders want to reinforce original sin and the need for repentance; some business leaders want us to subsidize their expensive “green” technologies; and the climate activists want their money-machine to keep on giving.
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If I were a tree hugging strategist, I'd focus on energy independence, not global warming or glacier melting. Everyone can get on board with that. All forms of energy play a role, including the heavily subsidized solar and wind power. At the end of the day, reducing our dependence on Middle East oil is a good thing, environmentally, politically and fiscally. But to suggest that solar/wind are the solution is FS. They will always be complimentary pieces to the puzzle.
Nuclear power should be the primary power generator in our country as well as the world. It's clean, provided you don't put power plants in areas where there are natural disaster concerns. Throw in some solar and wind, the Middle East can go fuck itself.
Energy independence actually has an end.
Global warming is undefinable and perpetual. The checks will keep coming.
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Habibullo Abdussamatov, the head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, recently linked the attenuation of ice caps on Mars to fluctuations in the sun's output. Abdussamatov also blamed solar fluctuations for Earth’s current global warming trend. His initial comments were published online by National Geographic News.
“Man-made greenhouse warming has [made a] small contribution [to] the warming on Earth in recent years, but [it] cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance,” Abdussamatov told LiveScience in an email interview last week. “The considerable heating and cooling on the Earth and on Mars always will be practically parallel."