To Fellow TBS'ers: Re-Ranking Recruiting Classes Survey Request
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Sure, sign me up.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:@Section8 will you want in on the survey? You responded but have not indicated.
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You're a doog if you give Callier a 3. He was a backup his whole career. A fucking backup for his entire career. That's not a 3. A 3 is a 'solid starter who may get some honorable mention All-Conference recognition'.
When the fuck did Callier even sniff All-Conference? When did he start and then not get replaced by someone else almost immediately?
If you are a 5th year senior and you can't clearly beat out DWash and Lavon Coleman you are not a 3.
Vince Weathersby was a 3. Caller is a 2. It's easy. He's the definition of a 2. -
Should I post after the fact how everyone voted, or should it be kept secret? I think I should post the survey results after. That way @Dennis_DeYoung can yell at all of you idiots.
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YOU GUYS ARE ALL IDIOTS EXCEPT ME!!! I THOUGHT THAT WAS OBVIOUS!!CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:Should I post after the fact how everyone voted, or should it be kept secret? I think I should post the survey results after. That way @Dennis_DeYoung can yell at all of you idiots.
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I think it's fair to have a master list by players.
In looking back at Callier's stats, I think it's probably more fair to judge him as a 2 than a 3. He wasn't worthless as a player (that a 2 would suggest that he was), but he also was nothing more than a role player (which wouldn't make him a 3). If you mark him as a 3, then what you are saying is that he performed his role well (barring the injuries). If you mark him as a 2, you are saying that he was never a starter. I tend to be a little more kind to players that performed the role that they were asked to perform and not hold it against them if they weren't a front line player - not everybody will be that player.
Bottom line is that he's a bit of an in-between from a judgment standpoint ... just like he was as a player. -
Post how everyone voted. The disagreements are part of the fun.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:Should I post after the fact how everyone voted, or should it be kept secret? I think I should post the survey results after. That way @Dennis_DeYoung can yell at all of you idiots.
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A 3 IMO is a legitimate starter. Everette Thompson (low 3) or John Timu would be 3's. Callier was never a starter and has hardly even played since his sophomore year.Tequilla said:I think it's fair to have a master list by players.
In looking back at Callier's stats, I think it's probably more fair to judge him as a 2 than a 3. He wasn't worthless as a player (that a 2 would suggest that he was), but he also was nothing more than a role player (which wouldn't make him a 3). If you mark him as a 3, then what you are saying is that he performed his role well (barring the injuries). If you mark him as a 2, you are saying that he was never a starter. I tend to be a little more kind to players that performed the role that they were asked to perform and not hold it against them if they weren't a front line player - not everybody will be that player.
Bottom line is that he's a bit of an in-between from a judgment standpoint ... just like he was as a player. -
I motion that this first-ever HHB TBS re-ranking recruiting class survey effort be called:
"The Jesse Callier Commemorative Post-Collegiate Career Impact Ranking Initiative". -
I respect @Tequilla for reconsidering.
It's tempting to sneak players up because you kind of like them or you remember them, but Hatchie is the definition of a 3 in my mind... and he started 3 years! -
It's all very fascinating to see how different people rate different players, I'm already contemplating how to rate certain players that are being discussed. Should be pretty fun to see the results. And also, the goal for this will be to see if we can determine how well coaches develop talent. I think this will be a fun experiment to do every year before signing day.Dennis_DeYoung said:I respect @Tequilla for reconsidering.
It's tempting to sneak players up because you kind of like them or you remember them, but Hatchie is the definition of a 3 in my mind... and he started 3 years!
