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Curt Cignetti explains how Indiana football’s success became a ‘movement’
DerekJohnson
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Thanks Taft!
I have a sneaking suspicion that the clock’s going to hit midnight in this guy soon.
We’re already getting the “Indiana should be ranked higher by the committee and are being discriminated against because they’re not a brand” whining. Right around when that happens the script usually blows them up.
They play Ohio State in a couple of weeks and Ohio State looks to have solved their OL issues so we'll know soon enough.
The movement is getting hired and bringing a bunch of the guys from your last team with you in the most down year of college football I've ever seen then getting the easiest schedule I've ever seen. I think they're pretty good and he's good but LIPO.
I somewhat agree but it's worth noting that when he took over a horrible James Madison team they won 8 games in a row in his first year.
Is it 'down' because Alabama and/or Georgia aren't making obvious marches to the title game by destroying everyone they play? I mean, you can say it's not as top-heavy as its been, absolutely; but other programs that have "brand" or whatever have re-emerged, like Tennessee. Michigan is down but let's face it Michigan's run last year was the exception to the rule for them for most years I've been watching, so that's not that unusual. Buck is still Buck, with a very close loss on the road their only blemish. Texas is usually pretty mediocre but for the 2005 exception year and they've been solid this and last year. A&M isn't terrible this year as they've often been. Florida State is a mess and Clemson has fallen but Georgia is still a very good football team. USC is mediocre, again. Also not unusual from many prior seasons.
I've always been unclear about what constitutes 'down' years in the entire game. Somebody has to be good by definition. Are you saying there is a down-turn in talent such that the NFL should be expecting shitty drafts over the next few cycles? Is it just that you're used to seeing one of two SEC teams clean up and have the title sewn up by November?
Seems like it across the board. Yes, there aren't 1-2 SEC teams that feel like wrecking crews. Georgia might be but they still don't seem to have that first round talent that they used to and Beck doesn't even look Stetson Bennett level. QB also seems down. Overall, looking at mock drafts is underwhelming as well. QB is underwhelming.
Actually got me thinking about the landscape this year - doing this is the order or blue bloodiness…
Alabama - down, especially considering recent history
Ohio State - Even, or slightly down considering the past 10 years. Their top level isn't the same, see OTs, Egbuka & JTT, CBs, versus the guys they usually have there
Georgia - Even, probably their weakest team since covid though
Texas - Even don't really know what to do with them yet though
Oklahoma - Way down
USC - Way down
Michigan - Way down
Notre Dame - Even, kind of just their typical BS though
LSU - Down
Florida State - Way down
Miami - Up - how did Cam Ward not win more at WSU Dickert?
Florida - Way down
Penn State - Even
Clemson - Down
Nebraska - Down, but have been for 20 years
Tennessee - Up, I guess, but very suspect
Washington - Down
Oregon - Up
Auburn - Way down
the extra information you included about Nebraska is my point. the question you have to ask is, down from what? Is LSU really down at 7-3? LSU is a program that tends to range from lights out national title to good but not great, and they are more often in the latter category that the former. That's who they are. They're not and have not been Alabama. They're never terrible, they are sometimes unbeatable but also often just hanging around the upper third. not new. Florida at 5-5, eh. That's another program that could get the LSU explanation, but the highest highs are from a really long time ago. Not really down down. Just a smidge below normal and may be trending back to normal. Other than the absence of the unbeatable SEC juggernaut, which is almost a separate discussion about whether that means the world of cfb is the most down we've ever seen, it's not clear to me. I mean, certainly the road to all the marbles has been cleared a bit with more parity, I'll grant you that. But I'll point out that before the SEC took over the world, many to most years in cfb the crowned champion was not 100 miles better than the next best team. But, yes, for a long time, Alabama or LSU, and recency bias for Georgia, have been knock out punch teams. The rest to me has mostly been a collection of ups and downs. Some old teams that have been down are up, some old teams that have been up are down, so more or less a wash, and then the SEC thing. I think the "Even, just their usual BS" applies to a lot of teams every year.
I am probably biased against using the term 'down' for the whole game just because of SEC SEC. but it's hard to deny that for most of the last many years, you had to get through one of those programs if you wanted the glass. last year was the first year I can remember in a long time that there was a clearer path. Michigan was not the equal to one of those SEC juggernauts. Looks like we might have that again, except this year Georgia won't get screwed out of a chance because of losing to Alabama.
He's performing like the Kansas coach Lance Leipold did last year. He might disappear next year like Leipold has.
Kansas is in 14th place this year.