Are WE Fisching In No Man's Land?
I like that it seems we're getting a hat on the table with better recruits after nearly half a decade of mostly signing guys who they had to fight it out with Kansas and other Little Sisters of the Poor. My only problem is I go through the visits and the better recruits and I always see at least one school that seems like UW hasn't won recruiting battles against since the Pete years then the TBS "experts" say he had a great visit but he's ultimately gonna go to Alabama, Texas, USC, Georgia, the school whose dad gives them way too much money to go to the strip club, etc.
It seemed like there used to be a sweet spot of good recruits who had parents who cared a bit about academis and culture etc who UW could beat UCLA and Stanford for during the Pete era and more instate talent, but those days seem over. Seems like there's gonna only be 1-3 WA guys worth offering forever now.
Long story short, are we going to get some sexy visits but just end up signing the guys we were in the Jimmy/Kalen eras anyway?
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I want results now especially when you open your big fucking flapper and say this is going to be the best class at udub ever. Dumb fucking fish… he didn’t realize it’s going to take tim.
This years going to suck ass and I honestly think the following won’t be much better but it’s going to take Fish time to get his guys in… yeah I know. His guys aren’t going to get in until they are proving they can win with this staff. Doesn’t seem like they are emphasizing the portal enough or they are not allocating enough to the portal but I expect that to change after this year.‘27 crooting class going to be speshul.
#visoronthetable
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I'm officially worried. I trust Fisch's scouting and knowing which of the three star guys who you have to duke it out with Kansas to take. I just worry we're never getting those legit high four star guys like McDuffie, Fautanu, Rome, McMillan, Rosengarten types which UW needs to be a contender like they were.
Looking back, I think my periphery how is Jedd and Arizona in on these recruits may have been:
- I think he did a good job of taking Fifita when other schools didn't want him to get McMillan and other TBS higher rated guys to sign who were Fifita's teammates. Well played but a rare specific situation.
- Them getting visits like we see now with bigger recruits but who sign elsewhere.
- 5* Tucson product, Elijah Rushing, was committed to Arizona. I heard Arizona offered him a ton of money and he was local but then Oregon offered way more money so then his mom became one of those spoiled clam chowder social media parents who are all about the sco and bad blood.
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I'm not worried yet. Every visitor that was here last weekend has trips planned most every weekend up until June 21. Most will be committing at the end of June or early July.
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I'm not following recruiting as closely but have things circled back to where guys take their full 4-5 trips again and then decide? It seemed like that was the way then for a long time it moved to where guys would frequently not even taking official visits anymore and once they locked onto a school actually commit pretty early?
I'm worried in that it felt like for a long time if a guy was actually going to UW, he shut things down at or after the visit and just committed or committed early and the guy who do the full process almost never go to UW anymore and they're the guys probably auctioning themselves off to the highest bidder, which won't be UW.
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i think guys stop their visits when they are sure way more often now.
Recruiting has changed. You have to be a good staff that offers comparable comp to whatever the other schools offer. If this was 2018 I think we would be doing very well based on this staffs efforts. Just not how the game is played any more. -
When DeBoer crooted like this I didn’t mind cause I knew we were gonna be a good team.
This isn’t gonna be that good of a team.
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I have no idea. Fisch seems like a good salesman, and those guys used to clean up in crootin'. I just don't know how much it matters when cash is now directly involved.
With the conference changes losing out to any of the schools not in the B1G or SEC for west coast recruits is unacceptable.
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I have some optimism in that:
- I think DeBoer was a good judge of who can actually play or not so the guys he brought in will actually be good, including the portal guys
- I think Fisch will find the spots like he did (see above with Fifita and the Servite guys) to win some battles in recruiting Deboer wouldn't
- I don't think we're going to not get recruits because of lack of effort
- I like Demond. He feels like the guy who has shredded UW for a decade + now even if he's on a shitty/average team.
- It seemed like he did well at Arizona building from hs recruiting and not trying to do a bunch of one year patches in the portal
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I’m worried you’re right. Fisch is a salesman, and it appears we got sold on great recruiting and may have prematurely unleashed our inner doogs. I think you’re spot on that he’ll get some guys KDB wouldn’t have because he has a personality, but I don’t think we’re going to be pulling our best classes ever like he claimed.
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As a reminder, fishers wife is hot so he can close the big deal. Just not with recruits.
