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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,549 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    CuntWaffle said:

    Best 1-2-3 Pitching punch in all of baseball.

    Yep. Best 1 in baseball. Best 1-2 in baseball. Best 1-2-3 in baseball. Best healthy 1-2-3-4 in baseball. Best healthy 1-2-3-4-5 in baseball. And best bullpen on top of that.

    And the offense has gone from terrible to sort of kind of decent, which should be all it takes to get this team into the playoffs with that elite run prevention. Anything can happen, but they're clearly the best team of those in contention for the second wild card.
    Disagree. Felix is great, but this is also a career year for him. He's the best pitcher in the AL though. Iwakuma is really good too. Young has been maybe the biggest surprise in baseball. Oakland with Lester, Gray, Kazmir, and Samardjza is the best 1-2-3, and 1-2-3-4. Young isn't as good as any of those guys and Paxton and Walker are too unproven. Iwakuma is good, Gray is a legitimate ace and maybe the best young pitcher in baseball. As Cuntwaffle noted, Detroit's 1-2-3 in a playoff series is scary good, but I don't think Verlander is getting it back this season. I'd rank them Oakland-Seattle-Detroit. Shoutout to dhdawg for calling it on the rotation in April. I didn't think they were top 5, but they are.

    The offense is still pretty bad. Getting Jackson was a very good move though. The CF's before him were a disaster and now we have an above average to good player out there. If the M's do make the playoffs, it will be the first time I watched them in a real game since 2009. It might be asking a lot for Felix and the starters to keep throwing the way they are. You know they offense will have a couple more droughts where they score 5 runs in 4 games.
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Oakland is better 1-5 for sure. Kazmir, gray Lester samarzdija and hammel are much better than what the mariners have
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    King Felix is unreal. He should be right there with trout for al mvp
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,254 Standard Supporter
    pawz said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    Go back to Vancouver hoser Blue Jay fans!

    Fuck that. They paid my mortgage yesterday.
    Thanks, Anthony Beiruti
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Update: The season is still over.
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  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,439
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    Update: The season is still over.

    Bump. 10 games over .500, bitches! But to be honest, I'm still waiting for the season-ending 8 game losing streak.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    edited August 2014
    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    CuntWaffle said:

    Best 1-2-3 Pitching punch in all of baseball.

    Yep. Best 1 in baseball. Best 1-2 in baseball. Best 1-2-3 in baseball. Best healthy 1-2-3-4 in baseball. Best healthy 1-2-3-4-5 in baseball. And best bullpen on top of that.

    And the offense has gone from terrible to sort of kind of decent, which should be all it takes to get this team into the playoffs with that elite run prevention. Anything can happen, but they're clearly the best team of those in contention for the second wild card.
    Disagree. Felix is great, but this is also a career year for him. He's the best pitcher in the AL though. Iwakuma is really good too. Young has been maybe the biggest surprise in baseball. Oakland with Lester, Gray, Kazmir, and Samardjza is the best 1-2-3, and 1-2-3-4. Young isn't as good as any of those guys and Paxton and Walker are too unproven. Iwakuma is good, Gray is a legitimate ace and maybe the best young pitcher in baseball. As Cuntwaffle noted, Detroit's 1-2-3 in a playoff series is scary good, but I don't think Verlander is getting it back this season. I'd rank them Oakland-Seattle-Detroit. Shoutout to dhdawg for calling it on the rotation in April. I didn't think they were top 5, but they are.

    The offense is still pretty bad. Getting Jackson was a very good move though. The CF's before him were a disaster and now we have an above average to good player out there. If the M's do make the playoffs, it will be the first time I watched them in a real game since 2009. It might be asking a lot for Felix and the starters to keep throwing the way they are. You know they offense will have a couple more droughts where they score 5 runs in 4 games.
    You're right about Oakland's rotation. I was stupidly looking at full year success, which obviously shortchanges the A's since they've upgraded their rotation significantly in season. But I'd rank the pitchers in their rotations like this:

    Felix
    Lester
    Gray/Iwakuma - seriously these guys are basically even whether you prefer ERA or FIP or xFIP or WAR. No idea why you like Gray so much more than Iwakuma, they're a total coin flip.
    Samardjza - right there with Gray and Iwakuma numbers wise, but I ding him a bit for spending half his season in the NL.
    Kazmir - might be underrating him since he's been so up and down through his career.
    Young - heck of a season for him, still not sure he can sustain this level.
    Paxton - way too early to get excited, but Paxton's small sample size numbers are better than every pitcher on this elite list other than Felix. If he can stay healthy he should be very good. Huge if. But he's probably already better than Young at least, he just has to stay healthy long enough to prove it.

    So yeah, Seattle with the best 1-2, but Oakland with the best 1-2-3 and best 1-2-3-4. But before Lester I'd have given those to the M's.

    Definitely agree with your analysis on Jackson.
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    while the offense will have low points for sure. It won't be like the first half. Jackson is a legitimate leadoff hitter, and morales is looking a lot better than he did a week ago.
    We'll see I'm not totally sold on the team, I see them as an 85 win team give or take a game or 2. We'll see if that gets them into the postseason.
    If Saunders can stay healthy and morales can be himself they will probably get that WC. Both are big ifs however
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Detroit's 1-2-3-4 is up there as well.
    Scherzer Price Porcello and a healthy Sanchez (hurt currently) is scary for whoever has to face them come october.
    I may have to eat my words, but I just don't think detroit can win in the postseason with that bullpen, especially against an oakland who'll make the starters work
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    dhdawg said:

    Detroit's 1-2-3-4 is up there as well.
    Scherzer Price Porcello and a healthy Sanchez (hurt currently) is scary for whoever has to face them come october.
    I may have to eat my words, but I just don't think detroit can win in the postseason with that bullpen, especially against an oakland who'll make the starters work

    Yeah, Detroit's rotation is filthy if everyone's healthy, but that's not the case right now. I'd take Seattle's or Oakland's over the Tigers at this point.

    I wouldn't be shocked to see the Tigers miss the playoffs completely. They're hurting pretty bad.

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