I'm going to chime into the Podcast debate.
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You are putting way too much thought into thisHe_Needs_More_Time said:My take on the podcasts vs the old HHB podcasts are this:
What made the HHB podcasts so appealing was there was no script or attempt to be a show. Unlike this current one you break it down to segments where you spend 15 mins talking offense, 15 mins talking defense, etc.
With the HHB podcasts it was two friends venting about Husky football and we just so happened to be the audience. They never worried about who was listening or what anyone thought. While you guys mention listeners in every podcast so you obviously worry about listeners.
The HHB podcasts had good satirical humor to go with it. Some real good clever witty comments in there. While with the new ones I feel like it's Adam Sandler humor where RoadDawg is just trying too hard to be funny.
The new ones doesn't flow as well either. You claim you rehearse prior to your "show" yet when Road or Chest makes an inappropriate joke Little Jimmy is always laughing awkwardly then tries to move the topic to somewhere else. I feel like that is your biggest problem so far is you don't know what you want to be. Little Jimmy obviously wants this to be taken seriously while Road views it as a joke, then Chest is typically in the middle. While with the HHB ones iDawg and Race didn't always agree but they were always on the same page.
I also liked with Race and iDawg they would always bring up the past. Talk about the James era, the pain of the Lambo years, the myths surrounding Rick Neuheisel. Nobody ever wants to talk about that. I'm always meant with "quit living in the past" so that was refreshing.
I think in the podcasts you can tell Race and iDawg know their shit when it comes to football. They also know the Doog script and openly mock it. Like after the Nebraska loss Race praising Callier and going "I can't wait until he's a senior and he's forgotten. Doogs will be saying bench him we want new young kid X".
Ultimately, what made the HHB podcasts so well and what is hurting in these new ones is they were genuine. While you guys seem scripted. There is a reason why your ASU podcast was your best one IMO. We finally felt the raw sense of emotion from all three of you after a horrible loss. There was no X's and O's breakdown it was just a bitchfest which after a bullshit loss like that was needed.
I'm sure you three will slam my critiques but as someone who has listened to every episode in the past(I don't know if I will in the future) I'd say be more genuine. If I want to listen to a "show" I'll go listen to a show. Podcasts are supposed to be free emotion with no rules which is what made Race and iDawg's podcast so quality.
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I think this is a really good suggestion.brchco12 said:
while I love the podcast, +1 to this comment. Make the 1 hour show into 3 20 minute shows to release over the week. I'm not sure of the operational cost of doing that for you guys. but an hour is tough to give my time to, and inevitably when discussed the audience will gravitate towards 1 topic over the 10 others covered in the 70 minute show.doogsinparadise said:I'm too ADD to listen to a 50 minute podcast, but the haters are really pressing on this. Listen or don't, wgaf.
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The 3 part format could work really well during season with a post game reaction released Sat/Sun....then a reaction to Mon pc & preview of next opponent on Tues/Wed with a prediction cast posted Thurs night/Fri morning.
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Was just offering up some things for them to improve on. They strike me as people who want to improve and little Jimmy in a different thread asked me to explain what was "wrong".
I'm not surprised DNC is the only one in here offended by my critique. -
What I'm looking forward to is an ASU type podcast only for opposite outcome.HeretoBeatmyChest said:The 3 part format could work really well during season with a post game reaction released Sat/Sun....then a reaction to Mon pc & preview of next opponent on Tues/Wed with a prediction cast posted Thurs night/Fri morning.
I think a quick post game after a big win seeing the true emotion would be great.
The honks will doog it up but fuck those guys. If they had it their way they'd still have Sark so I don't care what they think.
With you guys who all wanted Sark gone(like most of us) having a celebration post game would be fun to listen to.
I'm obviously talking if they beat Stanford, ucla, Oregon, apple cup.
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You weren't offering up things for them to improve on, you were listing all the ways they aren't as good as Race and iDawg, which is an impossible standard for anyone to live up to. If something has to be the HHB podcast to be worth doing, then no one's ever doing another Husky football podcast.He_Needs_More_Time said:Was just offering up some things for them to improve on. They strike me as people who want to improve and little Jimmy in a different thread asked me to explain what was "wrong".
I'm not surprised DNC is the only one in here offended by my critique.
Apart from the obligatory sexual tension, they're not trying to be HHB, and they don't have to be.
I'm not the least bit offended by your poast, I just happen to disagree. I do note that I wasn't even the first one to downvote it though, so I guess I'm not the only one after all. "lol" -
Did I get a shout out on the new podcast?
FREE PUB!!1! is the driving force behind any successful podcast. -
Might as well kick this dead horse of a thread because I spent the weekend picking elderberries on the shores of the saskawamish river and I'm feeling left out.
I enjoy the HuskyFanPodcasts. There's no reason to try to make it just like the HHB podcasts. Trying to emulate Race and iDawg is going to lead to a shit result. Trying to re-create the HHB podcasts is like trying to re-create a PL_SS poast....there is no substitute for the original. That said, we can't ALL be PLSS. Just like a chocolate chip cookie can't be JUST chocolate chips (and weed). You have to have a balance.
My only suggestion is to keep up, or even increase the sexual tension. I think that's essential to a truly great podcast. Other than that, if you keep making them, I'll keep listening. -
The postgame UCLA podcast should also be nominated for one of the best this year.
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Timer, you have some valid criticisms and critiques. The podcast could certainly improve, especially myself. I have really enjoyed this thread because we all want to give you a good show that is has some level of quality. I think we have certainly gotten a lot better over time. The ones in the beginning were rough. I was especially brutal.
That said, some of the critiques are because you are extra sandy lately. Other than a Kim bashing podcast, there aren't all that many jokes. Maybe a few here and there, but it's mostly football talk, predictions, and venting over Sark, the Seattle media (Huard, Hugh, softy, Baird, etc).
I'm also not really sure how our podcasts are not genuine. We have bullet points to hit, but they aren't rehearsed or scripted. Chest started the podcasts so that there was a genuine voice instead of the bullshit on KJR where they lie through their teeth the entire time. We give out honest opinions and thoughts on everything related to Husky Football. Trying to be Race and IDawg isn't genuine, has never been considered, and never will.
Having post game podcasts are hard because we have things to do. Chest and Cornell attend a lot of home games. I always squeeze out time to watch the games, but I often have family obligations on weekends and go out to dinner, etc. We all work. I would love for podcasting to be a career, but unfortunately that isn't going to happen. There's only so much time where our schedules align to make these post game podcasts. -
Try adding in some SoCal real estate talk.RoadDawg55 said:Timer, you have some valid criticisms and critiques. The podcast could certainly improve, especially myself. I have really enjoyed this thread because we all want to give you a good show that is has some level of quality. I think we have certainly gotten a lot better over time. The ones in the beginning were rough. I was especially brutal.
That said, some of the critiques are because you are extra sandy lately. Other than a Kim bashing podcast, there aren't all that many jokes. Maybe a few here and there, but it's mostly football talk, predictions, and venting over Sark, the Seattle media (Huard, Hugh, softy, Baird, etc).
I'm also not really sure how our podcasts are not genuine. We have bullet points to hit, but they aren't rehearsed or scripted. Chest started the podcasts so that there was a genuine voice instead of the bullshit on KJR where they lie through their teeth the entire time. We give out honest opinions and thoughts on everything related to Husky Football. Trying to be Race and IDawg isn't genuine, has never been considered, and never will. -
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Try adding in someRoadDawg55 said:Timer, you have some valid criticisms and critiques. The podcast could certainly improve, especially myself. I have really enjoyed this thread because we all want to give you a good show that is has some level of quality. I think we have certainly gotten a lot better over time. The ones in the beginning were rough. I was especially brutal.
That said, some of the critiques are because you are extra sandy lately. Other than a Kim bashing podcast, there aren't all that many jokes. Maybe a few here and there, but it's mostly football talk, predictions, and venting over Sark, the Seattle media (Huard, Hugh, softy, Baird, etc).
I'm also not really sure how our podcasts are not genuine. We have bullet points to hit, but they aren't rehearsed or scripted. Chest started the podcasts so that there was a genuine voice instead of the bullshit on KJR where they lie through their teeth the entire time. We give out honest opinions and thoughts on everything related to Husky Football. Trying to be Race and IDawg isn't genuine, has never been considered, and never will.SoCalRenton real estate talk. -
Derek u have the inmates running the asylum here, i know u believe in free speech but the collective iq doesnt reach double digits, if u really want to be a viable alternative to dawgman clean up the sewer system here!
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So in other words you want him to close the gates.beelzebub said:
Derek u have the inmates running the asylum here, i know u believe in free speech but the collective iq doesnt reach double digits, if u really want to be a viable alternative to dawgman clean up the sewer system here!
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Agree. Banning you would be a nice startbeelzebub said:Derek u have the inmates running the asylum here, i know u believe in free speech but the collective iq doesnt reach double digits, if u really want to be a viable alternative to dawgman clean up the sewer system here!
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You should post more.beelzebub said:Derek u have the inmates running the asylum here, i know u believe in free speech but the collective iq doesnt reach double digits, if u really want to be a viable alternative to dawgman clean up the sewer system here!
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You should go back to your own website and go tell your minions how Petersen is like Ty.beelzebub said:Derek u have the inmates running the asylum here, i know u believe in free speech but the collective iq doesnt reach double digits, if u really want to be a viable alternative to dawgman clean up the sewer system here!
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Hi Kim!!!beelzebub said:Derek u have the inmates running the asylum here, i know u believe in free speech but the collective iq doesnt reach double digits, if u really want to be a viable alternative to dawgman clean up the sewer system here!
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people lurk here quite a bit for two reasons: Not just because they want to see people voicing real opinions, but also because they want to see a train wreck or two.beelzebub said:Derek u have the inmates running the asylum here, i know u believe in free speech but the collective iq doesnt reach double digits, if u really want to be a viable alternative to dawgman clean up the sewer system here!
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You still haven't lit yourself on fire yet?beelzebub said:Derek u have the inmates running the asylum here, i know u believe in free speech but the collective iq doesnt reach double digits, if u really want to be a viable alternative to dawgman clean up the sewer system here!
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alternate wordingDerekJohnson said:
people lurk here quite a bit for two reasons: Not just because they want to see people voicing real opinions, but also because they want to see a PLSS poast or two.beelzebub said:Derek u have the inmates running the asylum here, i know u believe in free speech but the collective iq doesnt reach double digits, if u really want to be a viable alternative to dawgman clean up the sewer system here!
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better correctionDerekJohnson said:
people lurk here quite a bit for two reasons: Not just because they want to see people voicing real opinions, but also because they want to see a citrus festival or two.beelzebub said:Derek u have the inmates running the asylum here, i know u believe in free speech but the collective iq doesnt reach double digits, if u really want to be a viable alternative to dawgman clean up the sewer system here!
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Meek loves how you put thatTierbsHsotBoobs said:
better correctionDerekJohnson said:
people lurk here quite a bit for two reasons: Not just because they want to see people voicing real opinions, but also because they want to see a citrus festival or two.beelzebub said:Derek u have the inmates running the asylum here, i know u believe in free speech but the collective iq doesnt reach double digits, if u really want to be a viable alternative to dawgman clean up the sewer system here!
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Sounds like beelzebub doesn't want Derek to leave the poastin' to the poasters, and shouldn't back off like Stalin.
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This board isn't even bad. We could post two deep projections and wonder if Travell Dixon can be a solid contributor, but there's plenty of time for that. Most of those types of threads aren't that cool anyways.
Sometimes it is more fun to talk shit to other posters. It's mostly all in good fun, but it's understandable that some get annoyed by it and don't participate. Like many have said, anyone is free to start a football thread, and every time there is one, there is good discussion you won't get on the other Husky forums. In other words, fuck off beezlebitch! -
I love how he says this shit on the thread where we're just discussing the podcast and what's good about it, what could be improved, etc.RoadDawg55 said:This board isn't even bad. We could post two deep projections and wonder if Travell Dixon can be a solid contributor, but there's plenty of time for that. Most of those types of threads aren't that cool anyways.
Sometimes it is more fun to talk shit to either posters. It's mostly all in good fun, but it's understandable that some get annoyed by it and don't participate. Like many have said, anyone is free to start a football thread, and every time there is one, there is good discussion you won't get on the other Husky forums. In other words, fuck off beezlebitch! -
Great job capitalizing on all this podcast talk with a new podcast. Way to seize the moment.
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