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Should open socialists be banned from holding high office?

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  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 59,702
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    No
    All it does is force the Nazis and socialists into becoming chameleons like Obama and they will Trojan horse their way in with the help of a complicit mainstream media. Better that we have everyone showing their true colors as much as possible, and then let the democratic chips fall where they may. I do agree with one thing; these socialists are nasty and dangerous but don't appear so to many, many people.
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    PurpleJ said:

    CHRIST

    Exactly. Take this to the NOGAF Board.
    WTGWT
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    All it does is force the Nazis and socialists into becoming chameleons like Obama and they will Trojan horse their way in with the help of a complicit mainstream media. Better that we have everyone showing their true colors as much as possible, and then let the democratic chips fall where they may. I do agree with one thing; these socialists are nasty and dangerous but don't appear so to many, many people.

    Deplorable?
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,696
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    Yes
    Yes.

    I'm really disappointed in some of you!!!!!!!!!

    The day the U.S. is not at least 97% about winning and losing is the day the U.S. is not the U.S., and I'm out!

  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,538
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    Yes.

    I'm really disappointed in some of you!!!!!!!!!

    The day the U.S. is not at least 97% about winning and losing is the day the U.S. is not the U.S., and I'm out!

    Yeah but when socialists get elected we can watch them lose on a daily basis

    Plus I'd bang her so that's pretty much it.
  • WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,740
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    Trump:Republican::OBK:Libertarian
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  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    No

    The DSA are essentially new deal democrats you paranoid moron

    1930’s era, The Nazi Party is a little intense but they’re actually good guys POTD!!!!
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,792
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    No

    So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.

    Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.

    And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
    You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?
    Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.

    The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.

    The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tools fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?

    You asked what I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice more then others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
    This!

    When people axe my about my political beliefs, I often say I'm FREE MARKET SOCIALIST.

  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,792
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    No

    So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.

    Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.

    And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
    You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?
    Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.

    The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.

    The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tool's fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?

    You axed what I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice more then than others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
    I can't take you seriously if you can't manage the Engrish.
    I've told you this before - proof reading is a waste tim here. It's not like we're writing application essays to Bowdoin or Tufts. My Engrish is just as good as yers, and I even read Messican at like a 6th grade level.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,696
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    Yes

    So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.

    Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.

    And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
    You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?
    Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.

    The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.

    The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tool's fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?

    You axed what I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice more then than others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
    I can't take you seriously if you can't manage the Engrish.
    I've told you this before - proof reading is a waste tim here. It's not like we're writing application essays to Bowdoin or Tufts. My Engrish is just as good as yers, and I even read Messican at like a 6th grade level.
    What's APAG's excuse?

    And we should all rite like we're applying to Bowdoin and Tufts. What with all the current focus and national obsession with the Engrish.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    Trump:Republican::OBK:Libertarian

    OBK is NOT a libertarian.
    Wasn't that the joke?
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,792
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    No

    So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.

    Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.

    And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
    You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?
    Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.

    The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.

    The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tool's fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?

    You axed what I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice more then than others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
    I can't take you seriously if you can't manage the Engrish.
    I've told you this before - proof reading is a waste tim here. It's not like we're writing application essays to Bowdoin or Tufts. My Engrish is just as good as yers, and I even read Messican at like a 6th grade level.
    What's APAG's excuse?

    And we should all rite like we're applying to Bowdoin and Tufts. What with all the current focus and national obsession with the Engrish.
    We're the only nation in history based on a creed, as opposed to one tribe. And relatively speaking, we've been relatively successful and melting all these different tribes together into one successful nation. We've got Germans marrying Polacks, Carribean Messicans marrying Polacks, and so on and so forth. BUT everyone's gotta learn to speak the Engrish. It's the best for national unity and social cohesion. It's also the lingau franca because the Engrish speakers won the wars.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,538
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    So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.

    Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.

    And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
    You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?
    Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.

    The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.

    The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tool's fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?

    You axed what I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice more then than others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
    I can't take you seriously if you can't manage the Engrish.
    I've told you this before - proof reading is a waste tim here. It's not like we're writing application essays to Bowdoin or Tufts. My Engrish is just as good as yers, and I even read Messican at like a 6th grade level.
    What's APAG's excuse?

    And we should all rite like we're applying to Bowdoin and Tufts. What with all the current focus and national obsession with the Engrish.
    We're the only nation in history based on a creed, as opposed to one tribe. And relatively speaking, we've been relatively successful and melting all these different tribes together into one successful nation. We've got Germans marrying Polacks, Carribean Messicans marrying Polacks, and so on and so forth. BUT everyone's gotta learn to speak the Engrish. It's the best for national unity and social cohesion. It's also the lingau franca because the Engrish speakers won the wars.
    The spanish kicked some serious ass though.
    No white guilt there, no siree.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,792
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    No

    So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.

    Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.

    And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
    You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?
    Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.

    The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.

    The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tool's fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?

    You axed what I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice more then than others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
    I can't take you seriously if you can't manage the Engrish.
    I've told you this before - proof reading is a waste tim here. It's not like we're writing application essays to Bowdoin or Tufts. My Engrish is just as good as yers, and I even read Messican at like a 6th grade level.
    What's APAG's excuse?

    And we should all rite like we're applying to Bowdoin and Tufts. What with all the current focus and national obsession with the Engrish.
    We're the only nation in history based on a creed, as opposed to one tribe. And relatively speaking, we've been relatively successful and melting all these different tribes together into one successful nation. We've got Germans marrying Polacks, Carribean Messicans marrying Polacks, and so on and so forth. BUT everyone's gotta learn to speak the Engrish. It's the best for national unity and social cohesion. It's also the lingau franca because the Engrish speakers won the wars.
    The spanish kicked some serious ass though.
    No white guilt there, no siree.
    They did for about a 100 years. But they were lucky and got here? first. After that they got lazy and their whole economy was based on the extraction of gold and silver from the New World. The Engrish model based on being a maritime trading power proved to be far more successful in the long run. This is why we speak Engrish today and not Messican.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,792
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    No

    So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.

    Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.

    And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
    You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?
    Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.

    The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.

    The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tools fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?

    You asked what I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice more then others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
    This!

    When people axe my about my political beliefs, I often say I'm FREE MARKET SOCIALIST.

    Socialismo myths. The US doesn't have a free market healthcare system. We've been moving away from that for 30+ years and spending has gone up while health outcomes have gone down because of ever more government involvement in an attempt to "fix" the free market.

    Government interventionism creates market imbalances and poor outcomes which it then uses to justify further interventionism. Socialist playbook 101.



    Want to see what "American" single payer looks like? Look no further than Dialysis which ironically the GOP signed into law as single payer. It's a fucking disaster that is only getting worse.

    Or what about "Universal care"...The VA would be your example of that. They can't get good outcomes for a population of people who are considered a sacred cows where no expense is too much.

    Socialists should still be able to hold office. Much like the rest of the idiots that can.

    “If socialists understood economics they wouldn't be socialists.”

    ― Friedrich A. Hayek
    Never said it did. BUT if we were smart and quit stepping on our dicks we could have a healthcare system in this country that was both free market and socialistic.
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